Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Theodarzna]

No, but when you are trying to apply hyperbole as serious my response is apt. Yes, it isn't the just the left or Liberals that seen Trump for the shit stain and fucking Stupid Lunatic he is plenty of those on the right and Conservative have too.

We wouldn't be here if Ted Cruz was President, we weren't here when George Bush won, Nobody and I mean literally Nobody has had literal mob violence at their rally's the way Trump has.

Almost none has have across the board Support from White Supremacist, and Kanye West, Trump is a fucking idiot, he empowers stupidity. He has declared war on everyone not white, and not male. If you believe otherwise, then you likely believe Harriet Tubman didn't free the slaves and WW2 ended in 1917 FFS!

My point is you are purely acting on rank tribalism. Its not even partisanship since you have zero issues to care about, its just whatever you preferred brand puts out you support. Like people who line up and swear by and happily defend Apple products simply out of brand loyalty.

[Doctor Amadeus]

https://twitter.com/EricDSnider/stat...20664154116096



I'll just leave this here, because it's also the joke he made. Also that Hitler wasn't a native born American so wouldn't be eligible in the first place.

Imagine a world where people felt it was more plausible that Hitler could be VP, than people following the directive a Sitting President talking about injecting yourself with Bleach to cure Corona Virus is no big deal.

[Theodarzna]

Imagine a world where people felt it was more plausible that Hitler could be VP, than people following the directive a Sitting President talking about injecting yourself with Bleach to cure Corona Virus is no big deal.

Amazing, the "Plausibility" is your first point. F'ing AMAZING.

All these people who've kvetched and engaged in hyperbolic hysterical freakouts about MUH LITERAL FASCISM turn on a dime real quick.

[Doctor Amadeus]

My point is you are purely acting on rank tribalism. Its not even partisanship since you have zero issues to care about, its just whatever you preferred brand puts out you support. Like people who line up and swear by and happily defend Apple products simply out of brand loyalty.

No it isn't, because if that was the case YOU wouldn't be trying to shame those who are also against Trump who are Republicans and Conservatives as Neo's. Your bias is the only one showing, after you talk all day long about not being bias.

People are against Trump NOT because they are Allies, they are ALL against Trump because he is a fucking moron, and dangerous, and setting aside our differences, and getting this jackass and his circus out of office is more important than anything else right now.

That's what courage is, that is what bipartisanship is. I don't give a shit what Letter is beside his name right now Trump is the greatest threat to the world right now than Corona Virus.

His Stupidity has literally fucking killed THOUSANDS, so you can miss me with that, "Oh You NEO LIBERAL YOU TEE HEE" Bullshit

[kaelleria]

People claiming tribalism expose their own tribalism in overlooking what the country has become with Trump...

[Doctor Amadeus]

Amazing, the "Plausibility" is your first point. F'ing AMAZING.

All these people who've kvetched and engaged in hyperbolic hysterical freakouts about MUH LITERAL FASCISM turn on a dime real quick.

You posted it, I didn't post that shit, I don't post shit from Twitter on here, or Copy Pasta other shit like you do, and YOU getting burned just NOW is a pretty good example.

Whether you did it intentionally or not I don't know, but to put a stupid tweet down as an example of someone who means to vote for HITLER is pretty fucking silly.

However Trump talking about using lights and bleach to cure a Virus during an Epidemic where people need SERIOUS fucking information that isn't a joke.

[kasuke06]

Wow, and I thought Hillary's cheating and subsequent failure to Trump where a head of cabbage could have succeeded would have shown the democrats they have to actually try to pretend they're listening to the people. Then they shunt in a famously corrupt DA in the middle of a big push for accountability for law enforcement.

Well, at least now we get to see a two term trump presidency looks like. God help us all.

[Edge-]

Well I'm sure when they decided to help overthrow Libya's sovereign leader they didn't intend on slave markets opening up, but at the end of the day they are still responsible. It's okay it was merely a mistake. Best President Ever!

I think you're under the assumption that I would believe this, which I don't. He was a fine president, but far from "best ever" and most assuredly not "flawless". His handling of Libya in particular has been a focal point of criticism for his failures there, and he's even admitted it's the biggest mistake of his presidency.

I'm not sure why you're creating a strawman about my views on Obama, but I've never been shy to criticize his many shortcomings and failures throughout his presidency, especially campaigning as a progressive but largely being a moderate liberal while in office.

[Stormspellz]

You aren't getting it man, principles aren't at play here, this is a team sport and Kamala is on the team.

Once you grasp this tweet you understand were the Biden Brethrend are coming from:


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or you know its still "only" a vp spot and Trump is in fact that dangerous to the stability of the nation. It was republicans who through out civility, discussion, ect not democrats

[Gestopft]

Aoc is backing incumbent Markey over progressive Joe Kennedy. That does make a person wonder.

Markey is more progressive than Joe Kennedy last I checked. This isn't so much "progressive challenger" as much as "Joe Kennedy has to be a Senator like the rest of his family."

[Gestopft]

Kamala a fairly safe choice I think; good name recognition, was a presidential candidate, and most importantly, comes from a state that won't fill her Senate seat with a Republican.

[Thepersona]

You have it backwards, hun; the people griping for an all or nothing "progressive or bust" approach are the team sport players because they view it as a zero sum match rather than a matter of long term political strategy.

If we'd left civil rights to folks like you, same-sex marriage would still be illegal.

To all the fake progressives around here: remember that the spanish civil war was lost in part because of stupid bickering between the leftist factions (that Franco capitallized on).

[D Luniz]

Wow, and I thought Hillary's cheating and subsequent failure to Trump where a head of cabbage could have succeeded would have shown the democrats they have to actually try to pretend they're listening to the people. Then they shunt in a famously corrupt DA in the middle of a big push for accountability for law enforcement.

Well, at least now we get to see a two term trump presidency looks like. God help us all.

Citation needed.

[Milchshake]

Loving this pick more and more.
Most of all, the pick speaks to the reality that the white suburban punditry is encased in a bubble, unpierced by marginalized voices.
They tried to convince us Kamala wasn’t popular with Black voters & didn’t bother to check-in at the source, or give a real damn about marginalized issues.

The Dem base sounds pretty hyped!

[Grapemask]

Eh. I could be more disappointed by the VP pick. But I could be a lot more excited. It's really that part that bugs me. Democrats had a shot at picking up someone that fires up some part of the base, but instead they went with Kamala. It's at least a little bit better than Tim Kaine, but seriously, what do democrats have against going to the polls enthusiastically?

[Theodarzna]

Citation needed.

Kamala Harris Has To Answer For Not Prosecuting Steve Mnuchin

Kamala Harris has been deemed the democratic party establishment’s next big thing. They’re pushing her as the figure head of the resistance, the anti-Trump: a staunch, strong progressive who relies on her intelligence and empathy to combat the authoritarian belligerence of the current administration. While Harris is certainly poised and intelligent, her progressive credentials are fuzzy and her past is punctuated boldly by her decision to not prosecute OneWest Bank and the “foreclosure king” who ran it, current Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin.

Steve Mnuchin and OneWest Bank were, according to a memo obtained and reported on by The Intercept, guilty of “widespread misconduct” in the form of over 1,000 legal violations. The memo was the result of a year-long investigation and it asserts that OneWest Bank operated to intentionally boost foreclosures. The Campaign for Accountability called for a federal investigation of Mnuchin and OneWest Bank claiming they used “potentially illegal tactics to foreclose on as many as 80,000 California homes.”

Yet despite internal memos explicitly mentioning numerous prosecutable offenses by Mnuchin and co., then California Attorney General Kamala Harris refused to prosecute.

She’s never given an explanation for her decision and Mnuchin later donated $2,000.00 to Harris’ campaign. It was his only donation to a democratic candidate.

Her only direct acknowledgment of the memo uncovered by The Intercept was when speaking to The Hill the day after the story was published. It was a non-answer that simply restated already established facts:

“We went and we followed the facts and the evidence, and it’s a decision my office made[.] [W]e pursued it just like any other case. We go and we take a case wherever the facts lead us.”

The Democratic party is a fractured entity. The anti-establishment, anti-corporatist, anti-centrist, anti-plutocratic wing of the party is growing every day and they are unwavering and passionate about their ideals. Harris, who met with Clinton donors last month and is against party purity tests, has certainly failed to impress those pining for Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

In addition to an array of progressive moves as AG which included her opposition to Prop 8 and the death penalty, as well as founding the “Back on Track” program which reduced recidivism by providing job-training and schooling for low-level drug offenders, Harris made a few particularly troubling decisions. She opposed legislation that would’ve made it mandatory for the California DOJ to independently investigate all police shootings, she did not support the use of body cameras on all police state-wide, and she once attempted to block a court ruling granting gender reassignment surgery for a transgender inmate.

Moreover, she has yet to publicly endorse single-payer health care, which may end up being a litmus test for Democratic presidential candidates.

For the most part, Harris aims to stay in the middle, but by all accounts, centrism is dead. While she may be able to distance herself from some earlier mistakes, the one looming specter from which she cannot escape is Steve Mnuchin. If she wants to be considered as a viable Democratic candidate, she needs to appeal to the Sanders/Warren wing of the party. And to do this, she must provide an adequate justification for this glaring omission, or, at the very least, admit she made a terrible error. Voters on both sides of the aisle have grown tired of the corporatist model. This issue will not go away, she had myriad reasons to prosecute a man who brazenly and illegally exploited the citizens of her state and failed to do so.

Simply stating “it’s a decision my office made” is not enough.

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And that is just her banking issues, lets not forget her rosey love affair with big tech.

[Shadowferal]

Markey is more progressive than Joe Kennedy last I checked. This isn't so much "progressive challenger" as much as "Joe Kennedy has to be a Senator like the rest of his family."

I concede it seems a matter of degree. It's just funny to me that Kennedy was once thought to have this locked...
Well...either one is as good as the other I guess, except Kennedy wouldn't feel the need to be in lockstep with the dems.

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Well, at least now we get to see a two term trump presidency looks like. God help us all.

And when you're wrong you'll claim cheating.

[eschatological]

They lost 10٪ viewers last year. This year is shaping up to be worse with all the shit looming. It was over kneeling.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonatha...ue-to-decline/

That's an L for you

Declining viewership for ALL sports is down, because younger generations don't watch it. But even then, your article doesn't say what you think it does.

The very first sentence says "The NFL’s viewership will likely drop during the 2018-2019 season, potentially surpassing the 10% decline it experienced last season, which many fans and some pundits wrongly attributed to the controversy over player protests during the National Anthem." The article was also referring to 2017's drop, right after the controversy. And extrapolating for 2018, about which the op-ed writer was wrong. Viewership rose to 15.8m, just short of where it was before Kaepernick. Guess what, all those boycotters didn't last on their righteous boycott.

But no worries, ratings last year were fucking sky high:

https://www.boston.com/sports/new-en...yoffs-patriots

[Benggaul]

Here's some future content for Fox news:

In Finnish, kamala means horrible.

Checkmate, librulz.

Except she's half-Indian (I think) and I'm pretty sure it's a Hindu goddess, so it'll blow right back in their faces.

[D Luniz]

Kamala Harris Has To Answer For Not Prosecuting Steve Mnuchin


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And that is just her banking issues, lets not forget her rosey love affair with big tech.

well, if its actually as corrupt as you and kasuke claim, the Trump campaign will be all over it
I doubt Biden didnt vet through that issue

so while we havent gotten an answer, I doubt its going to be the poison pill you two are making it to be