Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Endus]

By communicating why people are not voting.

Communication isn't something new, it has been used since the stone ages and even the romans knew that voting is just a miniscule portion of politics. Most of the politics happen through communication through 99,99% of the rest of the 4 years.

How, exactly, are you communicating this?

I want specific examples you've actually engaged in. Note that "bitching on an Internet forum or social media" doesn't qualify. It's only "communication" if you're being heard; screaming into the void is just wasting breath.

Also, choosing to not communicate via your vote seems to fly directly against your own principle. That's what voting is, y'know. Communicating your preference.

[wunksta]

You know you can communicate outside of voting? Or do you wait 4 years every time to explain everything that is on your mind?

And you can do both.

[beanman12345]

You know you can communicate outside of voting? Or do you wait 4 years every time to explain everything that is on your mind?

Yes you a foreign trump supporter are communicating you want people to not vote so trump wins.

[Edge-]

You know you can communicate outside of voting? Or do you wait 4 years every time to explain everything that is on your mind?

Where and how will this be communicated? What group is organizing the voting boycott? How are they rallying people? How are they organizing? What's their messaging? Where are they placing it? Do they have contacts within the DNC? Are they reaching out to media to get them to cover the story?

[shimerra]

Not at all, but please continue... I don't even shame Trump voters for whom they vote for, because I actually believe in Democracy which includes being loud, vocal, and unwavering in your ideals and principles.

It also involves compromise and actually mobilizing voters which is why you will continue to get soundly smashed except in a few random election and remain confused as to why.

If you voted in the primary but leave it blank in the General Election they can see those totals. It's up to them wither or not they choose to learn the lesson.


Also Non-voting communication.

And the answer was Biden soundly knocked the shit out of Bernie. Yet you rage. And I'll remind you again before your predictable and incorrect counter: Obama won as a weaker, lesser known candidate, than Bernie was against a stronger Hillary with less baggage. Funny enough trouncing Biden as well.

[Edge-]

If you voted in the primary but leave it blank in the General Election they can see those totals. It's up to them wither or not they choose to learn the lesson.

Are they supposed to compare primary voters to general election voters? Information that they can't actually get on a person-to-person level?

General elections usually bring out more voters than primaries, and the reason behind why someone didn't vote in a general but may have in a primary cannot reasonably be assumed as you think it is.

You're basically saying that you're going to walk out of class because the teacher said something, but not actually bother to let the teacher know what they said that triggered your walkout while because you expect the teacher will just intuit it.

That's some fuckin bullshit right there, and makes precisely zero sense if you understand how voting in the US works.

[Mihalik]

You know you can communicate outside of voting? Or do you wait 4 years every time to explain everything that is on your mind?

You do understand that after this election if Trump wins there will be no communication or voting. It's done.

There will be no voting, no public protesting, no free media. This is it.

Last chance to course correct before the darkness falls.

Again... Have you not been on planet Earth the past 4 months?

[starlord]

Sure, or you could do only one of them too.

Not voting is going to put a lot more pressure on them though than just voting for them. At that point you already gave away all your power to them.

is this your way of convincing yourself that your not vote in another country means something?

[wunksta]

Sure, or you could do only one of them too.

Not voting is going to put a lot more pressure on them though than just voting for them. At that point you already gave away all your power to them.

It literally doesn't. It just means that the fanatic supporters are the ones voting. In order for this system to work, it requires voters to be well informed and vote in every level of government to exercise their voice. You can't sit on the sidelines and expect people to listen to you. You have to use all of your political tools.

[Edge-]

There is no merit to going into detail on this right now

So it doesn't exist. Glad we've cleared that up, then.

[starlord]

Such errors can be corrected in much better ways than through a voting box.

Surrendering to corporate dynasties just because the other guy is an outright power-hungry fascist, isn't the answer.

what an incredible gem, sig worthy.

[RadasNoir]

If you voted in the primary but leave it blank in the General Election they can see those totals. It's up to them wither or not they choose to learn the lesson.

I'm sure it will be a great comfort to the people who have suffered and died as a result of Trump's incompetence, that the only reason why you didn't do the only thing you could do to remove such a man, is because you wanted to teach the mean ol' Democratic Party a lesson.

[beanman12345]

Sure, or you could do only one of them too.

Not voting is going to put a lot more pressure on them though than just voting for them. At that point you already gave away all your power to them.

Yes it's going to put a ton of pressure on them. Turnout 20 year record low turnout in 2016 trump wins really put that pressure on to get the party to shift dramatically. Oh wait, no it got Biden and you want low turnout so YOUR candidate wins another 4 years knowing full well not voting doesn't produce what you think it does. Your argument is shit and you just want trump to win.

[wunksta]

Both parties kept moving right until recently due to a massive resurgence in voting left wing candidates. It's almost like voting matters.

[Mihalik]

Such errors can be corrected in much better ways than through a voting box.

Surrendering to corporate dynasties just because the other guy is an outright power-hungry fascist, isn't the answer.

If you are referring to bloodshed... Then you are a joke and you are out of your fucking mind.

Because that's the choice here. Democracy or bloodshed. And the notion that bloodshed would produce your desired outcome is straight up dumb.

[Noxx79]

Such errors can be corrected in much better ways than through a voting box.

Surrendering to corporate dynasties just because the other guy is an outright power-hungry fascist, isn't the answer.

Really? Because the malpractice of the senate says differently.

[Noxx79]

Not at all, but please continue... I don't even shame Trump voters for whom they vote for, because I actually believe in Democracy which includes being loud, vocal, and unwavering in your ideals and principles.

Lack of compromise is fanaticism and borders on fascism where the “impure” are purged.

You’re just a child throwing a tantrum at this point.

[Hadriker]

You literally summed up a bunch of ways in which you can communicate and pressure the Democratic Party through not voting, and even though your list was pretty long, it was just a small fraction, a miniscule per mille of all the options and methods that are available to communicate exactly why you decided not to vote and how they should adjust if they wish to be worth of your vote.

I should be thanking you for clarifying how not voting can itself be a form of expressing yourself.

So what is this supposed bloc of progressives who are boycotting the general election vote doing to make sure their voice is heard? How are you organizing? these are specific questions that should easily be answered if you are wanting your collective voice to be heard and taken seriously.


otherwise you, and others like you, are just pissing in the wind.

[Edge-]

You literally summed up a bunch of ways in which you can communicate and pressure the Democratic Party through not voting, and even though your list was pretty long, it was just a small fraction, a miniscule per mille of all the options and methods that are available to communicate exactly why you decided not to vote and how they should adjust if they wish to be worth of your vote.

I should be thanking you for clarifying how not voting can itself be a form of expressing yourself.

So where the fuck is this movement, then? Because I still can't seem to find anything about it and am unsure how you're supposed to communicate all these things to the DNC absent a movement with enough support behind it.

[wunksta]

Yeah, it's almost people keep voting in terrible candidate after candidate until there is irreparable damage. Very strange.

Voting needs to be done at all levels of the government. Too often, people ignore local elections and focus on the presidency.