Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Logwyn]

No, because if there's no election, Nancy, like the rest of the House, is out of office on January 3rd.

So we move on to the next in the line, President pro tempore of the Senate, which is Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). He'll still be in office, like 64 other senators, because he isn't up for reelection this year.

First Congress has to change things to provide for there not being an election as there is not a provision in the Constitution if there is not an election. There exists a hole in the event no election takes place. There is no provision for it.

Also if there is no election then the Senate will not have 1/3 of the Senate reelected. Yes, the governors could just fill those vacancies. But would it be quick enough before the Senate held its elections on Jan. 4th before a new President Pro Tempore is elected. Grassley loses his spot Jan 3rd as well unless voted by the Senate. I think the Senate would be a majority Democrat if this is the case.

[eschatological]

No, because if there's no election, Nancy, like the rest of the House, is out of office on January 3rd.

So we move on to the next in the line, President pro tempore of the Senate, which is Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). He'll still be in office, like 64 other senators, because he isn't up for reelection this year.

For the umpteenth time, states run the House elections. As long as California has their elections (and they're working hard to have mail-in elections) and Nancy wins her seat back, which'll be easy, she'd be President.

Trump and the federal government can't cancel elections on the state level. They can't even cancel an individual state's attempts to have a Presidential election. The idea might be that some GOP states might do some shenanigans and cancel elections, but all that does is make the 270 electoral vote needed harder to reach.

[Thepersona]

talking about pro-choice ralies where people hold signs saying my body my choice.. so the right is using it back at them to say their body their choice in regards to leaving their homes, going out, not taking vaccines, not wearing mask.

not supporting them but that is what that's the point of the sign.

Yeah, but the choice of not taking a vaccine or not taking social distancing rules seriously affect people outside of your body. Thus bodily autonomy doesnt apply.

[Flarelaine]

Are you saying if the choice was a Democrat ticket headed by Sanders, you would elect not to vote?

I have never chosen not to vote. I have voted with my nose held previously, but wouldn't even need that to vote for someone like Bernie.

[Polisithasis]

No, I was explicitly saying that the obvious being missed, is due lack of understanding... instead of malicious intent.

"Lack of understanding". By implication you believe her lack to be inferior and yours to be somehow superior.

I do not think you have a superior understanding of anything.

[Orbitus]

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Says the guy that has made hundreds of accounts by now? Yeah, we don't care what you say.

[Adam Jensen]

You're either totally ok with the Trump administration, or you going to take a stand against it. This picture is going to be historic. You will see this picture in books for the next 100+ years.



Video and audio if you want to hear what a deranged person sounds like. Instead of reading their posts.

Two off-duty nurses protest the Trump inspired nonsense.

*David Attenburough voice*

Here we see the wild Karen emerging. It has been startled. Angry it makes itself appear bigger and begins to make a threatening screech, warning others to stay back or it will demand to see a supervisor. But these nurses have been through a lot and remain unfazed by an angry Karen. The Karen will probably sulk and head back home, re-soundly humiliated in the stand off.

[Felya]

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No, me noticing the obvious, isn’t me being superior. By the definition of the word obvious... I didn’t say I am a genius that noticed something no one else has, I said it was obvious, because anyone should be able to notice. There is no merit in someone judging others intelligence, when they are talking about the superiority of those who see the obvious. Wtf?

Oh, if you create a new account... again... name your self Connal or Sulla... you’ll freak people the fuck out.

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Says the guy that has made hundreds of accounts by now? Yeah, we don't care what you say.

I’m enjoying participating in a debate over my intelligence, where both sides are arguing I’m dumb. lol

[downnola]

I’m enjoying participating in a debate over my intelligence, where both sides are arguing I’m dumb. lol

You have an uncanny ability to make people look foolish so I'm not buying that at all, lol.

[unfilteredJW]

The whole world hangs waiting with baited breath for your every utterance by contrast....

Someone's made the sock maaaaaad.

[Dead Moose Fandango]

Yeah that's why I responded calmly with mild sarcasm to the guy flaming me....

Btw Here is unfilteredJW's last post prior to this one:

They are a plagiarist and a liar.

But please, shove yourself up their ass more.

So, U mad bro? U mad? U mad bro?

I feel like one is mad if they go make a sock puppet account in the first place.

[TACOshake]

More Unity for progressives.

Over 50 scientists, including prominent climate experts, are out with an open letter endorsing Joe Biden just ahead of the 50th anniversary of Earth Day.
Biden will listen to facts and real scientists to come up with climate change policy. Ya know, instead of having Jared write up a book report and appointing 3 cronies from the golf course.

I feel like one is mad if they go make a sock puppet account in the first place.

I think they also experience a lot of personal shame. For failing at life, and failing at posting on MMO-C.

[Felya]

What a gotcha! If only that sentence had actually made any sense.

Would you mind restating your argument or point in this thread? It seems to have gotten lost in the current discussion. I’d like to take the ol’ crack at it...

[JohnBrown1917]

More Unity for progressives.

Over 50 scientists, including prominent climate experts, are out with an open letter endorsing Joe Biden just ahead of the 50th anniversary of Earth Day.
Biden will listen to facts and real scientists to come up with climate change policy. Ya know, instead of having Jared write up a book report and appointing 3 cronies from the golf course.


I think they also experience a lot of personal shame. For failing at life, and failing at posting on MMO-C.

Just goes to show that progressivism became a meaningless word co-opted by centrists.

[Felya]

Biden will listen to facts and real scientists to come up with climate change policy. Ya know, instead of having Jared write up a book report and appointing 3 cronies from the golf course.

The problem, those this should be appealing to, think that everyone that isn’t Trump and his golf cronies, is the deep state establishment Clintanistas... I’ve made this argument a few times before, but using NASA will not convince a flat earther. Using Trump’s own words is even unlikely to work, since there will always be... ‘what he really meant’...

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Just goes to show that progressivism became a meaningless word co-opted by centrists.

Pragmatism and progressive are not antonyms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey

Pragmatism, which is what supporting Biden is, was literally born out of progressive ideology.

[Edge-]

Just goes to show that progressivism became a meaningless word co-opted by centrists.

So...did you read it? Or is this just attacking scientists because they endorsed Biden and no decent person can endorse Biden. Except Bernie Sanders.

Because the text of their endorsement isn't objectionable in the slightest.

[TACOshake]

The problem, those this should be appealing to, think that everyone that isn’t Trump and his golf cronies, is the deep state establishment Clintanistas... I’ve made this argument a few times before, but using NASA will not convince a flat earther. Using Trump’s own words is even unlikely to work, since there will always be... ‘what he really meant’...

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Pragmatism and progressive are not antonyms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey

Pragmatism, which is what supporting Biden is, was literally born out of liberal ideology.

It's just putting a nice tidey bow on things. For the US, coalition building always happens before the election.

Also, Biden restoring Bears Ears and Escalante is a big plus.

[Felya]

Mostly you just seem to be trolling Sanders supporters, which is obviously a waste of time, unless you actually manage to piss some of them off enough to vote Trump, in which case you are actively damaging your cause.

How much of Sander’s support is that fickle?

[TACOshake]

How much of Sander’s support is that fickle?

It's just projection from reactionaries that never had any intent of voting against Trump.

Actual voters, already made up their minds.

Joementum .. is it real? Is it durable?

After the Sanders, Warren, and Obama endorsements, Biden's favorability takes a large jump.



Former Vice President Joe Biden's favorability enjoyed a nearly double-digit gain after Democratic Party figures, including former President Barack Obama and Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, offered their endorsements last week.

New polling data released Tuesday shows Biden with the support of 68 percent of primary voters under age 45 and holding a 5-point lead over President Donald Trump, 47 to 42 percent, among registered voters of all political affiliations. The April 13 endorsement from Sanders, who dropped out of the Democratic race just days before, has helped Biden gain the support of many younger voters who previously supported the progressive Vermont senator.

Several polls released Sunday also show Biden leading Trump by at least 5 points in hypothetical head-to-head matchups. A Morning Consult/Politico poll conducted between April 18 and 19 showed that three-quarters of Democratic voters were at least aware that Sanders, Obama and Warren had put their support behind Biden.

Thanks Obama!

[Felya]

It's just projection from reactionaries that never had any intent of voting against Trump.

That’s the thing, he was insulting Bernie supporters, while complaining you insulted Bernie supporters. It’s... strange... I still want him to explain...