Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Sorshen]

You won't remove the "new worst offenders" in this decade tho.
/edited

[wunksta]

Good old Goodwin's law it never fails.

Well, it's hard not to invoke that when there's literal nazis and white nationalists in the GOP and Trump administration.

[eschatological]

The Postal Workers Union is pissssssssssssssed:

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/...81856124170241

Gonna embed the picture from this tweet just cause it's so fucking good:

[Ursus]

Nazis had nothing to do with Fascism folks. You read it here first.

That's not what he said. All Nazis are fascist, but not all fascists are Nazis.

[Noxx79]

Lack of Compromise ended slavery, gave us labor unions, ended Jim Crow, and will end Jim Crow 2.0 partially made possible by one of the candidates.

This guy must have been lacking some compromise too.

So you’re suggesting you put everyone against the wall and kill those who don’t believe what you do. Because that’s how that stuff happened.

Sounds pretty fascist.

[beanman12345]

So then all all Trump voters then supporting fascist? As well as every single person that doesn't vote against him?

Sorry that's a bullshit argument that ignores people real life experience and why and whom they support. These are the exact same tactics used in 2016 and they didn't work out too well then, and they do nothing to move the needle in 2020. |

Antifa are antifascist, and they share a large part of the blame for rioting when people are trying to peacefully protest, thus undering an entire civil rights movement. They are doing more harm then good.

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Yupe, that's exactly what I said.... I literally just wrote a reply against violence and in support of peaceful protest, but now not only am I a Trump supporter, but a fascist. Yet nothing gets done to people who sling such baseless accusations in order to try and get win on an online forum debate. FML

Nothing get's done because they are not baseless, You are not a victim. Others perceiving you for the way you present yourself is how interacting with people works.

[Ursus]

So then all all Trump voters then supporting fascist? As well as every single person that doesn't vote against him?

He brought up fascism and you claimed he invoked Goodwin's (sic) law, which has to do with bringing up Nazis. You seem to think that all fascists are Nazis. Sorry, but you are objectively wrong on this point. If you are having trouble understanding that, try taking a logic class.

As for whether all Trump voters are supporting fascism, if you're talking about 2020, then yes absolutely. Anyone who can take a look at what has happened to this country over the past three and a half years and vote for more of that is supporting fascism.

[cubby]

Biden going on the offense, asking for a national mask mandate. Will be interesting to see how Trump's Lie Machine responds.

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He brought up fascism and you claimed he invoked Goodwin's (sic) law, which has to do with bringing up Nazis. You seem to think that all fascists are Nazis. Sorry, but you are objectively wrong on this point. If you are having trouble understanding that, try taking a logic class.

As for whether all Trump voters are supporting fascism, if you're talking about 2020, then yes absolutely. Anyone who can take a look at what has happened to this country over the past three and a half years and vote for more of that is supporting fascism.

Agreed re fascism and voting for Trump in 2020. It's essentially voting for a dumb Hitler at this point. The people who are bringing up Goodwin's Law can go fuck themselves - this is the adult table, and silly little ultimatums have no place when we're talking about the literal future of the United States.

(your sig is fantastic - so many Trumpkins miss even the basics with supporting him)

[SirBeef]

But they are literal Nazi's ACTUAL FASCISTS Draco-Onis? I thought you were an Anti-Fascist super solider here, RESISTING LITERAL FASCISM! How can you support someone who took MONEY FROM LITERAL FASCISTS!!!!111eleven!

This supposed super Nazi regime gave money to your girl Draco, she took money to get her first office from Super Hitler. Oh, and relentlessly locked up and held as virtual slaves your People of Color you allegedly care about in the prison system that is VERY EXCITED for her nomination. How is electing Queen of all Cops good? Or Crime Bill Biden for that matter?

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Yes, Harris, helping those in need by sending them to prison and keeping them there so that said Prison can make some money.

Such wonderful good in the world. Amazing good, its so good, this is the kinda good that is radiantly good.

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You misspelled capitulating, common mistake. Or your values were make believe to seem like a "DECENT HUMAN BEING (TM)" for your forum avatars brand.

Part of the AGs job is to enforce current law of the state and follow the state's constitution. Much of that was out of the control of the AG position.

But then I also guess it's impossible for people to make mistakes and learn from them. I mean seriously no one could ever be an elected official if we followed the ridiculous standards you impose on people.

[Auxora]

I'd be curious to see what the proof is that Antifa were a large part of the blame for the rioting. That was never proven, there was no evidence even hinting to that, and it's been quite a while since the riots with still nothing to support that claim.

Even at the time of the riots, the closest I ever heard to "evidence" of Antifa was supposedly that many of the rioters had umbrellas and backpacks (lol). That this was supposedly the proof that it was a nationally coordinated and organized event by Antifa. It's laughable. The protests weren't even political like the current protests in Belarus that actually are against fascism, the US protests were against police abuse and racism.

And yet Trumpsters continue to parrot that the riots were nationally organized by Antifa somehow. The vast majority of Americans are against fascism including the protesters (umm that's why our Grandparents fought in WW2), but don't be mislead or confused into thinking that means everyone that is opposed to fascist behavior is an Antifa member. Those are 2 very different things. There are thousands of people that oppose fascism for every Antifa member.

I continue to be shocked at seeing how many people have been manipulated into thinking that being against fascism as an American is a bad thing. My grandfather lost quite a few friends in WW2 and would slap me upside the head if he were still alive and I said that I was pro-fascism.

[Elegiac]

Keep maligning nearly half of Americans voters, ignoring their lived experiences

1) It's not half of American voters, it's substantially less than that.

2) They aren't voting based on their lived experiences so why should we give a shit.

[Blur4stuff]

It's important to remember that most americans didn't vote for Trump. Republicans and Trump have as much power as they do because the system is rigged at every level to benefit them. Add to that their blatant cheating and voter suppression.

Republicans can't win based on the quality of their ideas. They have no meaningful solutions to our most serious problems. They can't win a fair election.

They will only have power so long as they can keep cheating and representation remains lopsided.

[Elegiac]

Oh you spoke with all of them. My bad. Please tell me why every single one is voting and what their top concerns. I'm sure you have extensive notes.

Nah, see unlike those people I actually somewhat understand how statistics work. And the apparent trend is that what they say isn't actually reflected in their voting patterns - their voting patterns are largely determined by their choice of media outlet, which usually numbers one to two.

[cubby]

It's important to remember that most americans didn't vote for Trump. Republicans and Trump have as much power as they do because the system is rigged at every level to benefit them. Add to that their blatant cheating and voter suppression.

Republicans can't win based on the quality of their ideas. They have no meaningful solutions to our most serious problems. They can't win a fair election.

They will only have power so long as they can keep cheating and representation remains lopsided.

And this will be coming up a lot more as the EC continues to come under scrutiny, even after a (hopefully) democrat wins. The GOP hasn't won a U.S. presidential election by popular vote since 1992 (2004 doesn't really count, given 2000), and it's no wonder they lie and spew nonsense about the EC.

And what you said about meaningful solutions to the United States' most serious problems is spot on. They are in it only for themselves - even though they used to be a decent party, with at least decent solutions. The modern GOP is just Grifters of Politics now.

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WOW that was a whole big pile of steaming bullshit. Good job.

[videos]SNIP - stupid, useless video posted by someone who doesn't understand what legitimate sources are[/videos]

It's continually adorable that you think youtube provides any kind of legitimate cite for positions. No one cares what your newest social media junkie producer thinks. If they use cites for their opinions, give those to us.

Meanwhile - I wonder if the same person is briefing Biden and Trump. I would love to see the different approaches. For instance, I don't think she would need to use crayons with Biden. Plus, I understand Biden can read....

[beanman12345]

It's continually adorable that you think youtube provides any kind of legitimate cite for positions. No one cares what your newest social media junkie producer thinks. If they use cites for their opinions, give those to us.

Meanwhile - I wonder if the same person is briefing Biden and Trump. I would love to see the different approaches. For instance, I don't think she would need to use crayons with Biden. Plus, I understand Biden can read....

I wonder if that's why he hates Biden so much. Because Biden has no problem with comprehension like he and Trump does.

[draynay]

So then all all Trump voters then supporting fascist?

Voting for fascism is a pretty strong show of support.

[wunksta]

Saying all Trump voters support Fascism shows you all don't know what the hell you are talking. If this is how you view your fellow Americans then it's no wonder the ruling class has gained so much power regardless of who was in charge of our government.

Support for authoritarianism is the strongest predictor of support for Trump.

Several questions in the national survey were designed to test for authoritarian behavior. These questions spring from a robust literature that dates back to Fromm’s aptly named 1941 study Escape From Freedom, spans seven decades, and abundantly details authoritarians’ fear of “the other,” antipathy for the ideals of Madisonian democracy, and disdain for the protection of minority rights from majority tyranny. As such, the questions probe survey respondents’ attitudes toward bedrock Democratic values that are the foundation of constitutional government and civil society.

On most of these questions, Trump voters exhibit statistically significant and substantive authoritarian attitudes

https://acpress.amherst.edu/books/ri...uthoritarians/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...itarian-213533

[draynay]

Saying all Trump voters support Fascism shows you all don't know what the hell you are talking. If this is how you view your fellow Americans then it's no wonder the ruling class has gained so much power regardless of who was in charge of our government.

If they don't support fascism they should probably stop voting for it.

[Gaexion Ramza Beoulve]

Hey.

Kanye West is gonna get 13% of the popular vote. This will result in Biden losing an electoral vote preventing him from getting 50%.

Brace yourselves for a feast of tears.

[Hinastorm]

Saying all Trump voters support Fascism shows you all don't know what the hell you are talking. If this is how you view your fellow Americans then it's no wonder the ruling class has gained so much power regardless of who was in charge of our government.

The ruling class aka the rich? The people a large amount of democrats want to tax, and nearly no republicans want to tax?

Blaming the left for the rich getting richer is patently absurd.