Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Ghostpanther]

That is pretty interesting.

Yeah. I saw some other polls which seems to suggest the older generation is beginning to not favor Trump. But he is picking up more younger voters and African Americans. But the older generation generally are more likely to vote.

[Zan15]

Yeah. I saw some other polls which seems to suggest the older generation is beginning to not favor Trump. But he is picking up more younger voters and African Americans. But the older generation generally are more likely to vote.

i saw a unicorn once too.

Strange how someone who has a long history of posting one sided polls whenever he was able to find them somehow has no link to these polls where AM voters are moving towards trump.

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I think the polls may get tighter as more people get to know more about Kamala Harris. I know myself, after finding out more about her, the more I am glad Biden picked her.

i can only imagine what you learned, Birther 2.0?

[Felya]

That is pretty interesting.

You know what else is interesting, why did this:

Interesting recent poll by CNN......https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/polit...020/index.html

Change to this:

Interesting poll......https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/polit...020/index.html

I have an answer! From yesterday, instead of May:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/polit...ust/index.html

Across 15 battleground states, the survey finds Biden has the backing of 49% of registered voters, while Trump lands at 48%.

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Yeah. I saw some other polls which seems to suggest the older generation is beginning to not favor Trump. But he is picking up more younger voters and African Americans. But the older generation generally are more likely to vote.

It’s why your poll is from May...

Edit: Are you sure his isn’t a reaction to Post-ABC poll that literally got released minutes before you posted, stating that the view on the economy is the lowest in 6 years and Biden up by double digits?

[Eviscero]

I think the polls may get tighter as more people get to know more about Kamala Harris. I know myself, after finding out more about her, the more I am glad Biden picked her.

How is it possible that a radical 2nd amendment conspiracy theorist, convinced that at any moment the government will come take his guns, also supports a would be autocrat? Trump is literally the first president that represents an actual threat to American democracy and the freedoms it ensures, including the 2nd amendment.

I bet you'd support taking the guns away from certain people that Trump declared "dangerous."

Such cognitive dissonance should be declared a personality disorder.

[JohnBrown1917]

Interesting recent poll by CNN......https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/polit...020/index.html

Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden's lead over President Donald Trump now stands at five points, but Trump has an edge in the critical battleground states that could decide the electoral college, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.
In the new poll, 51% of registered voters nationwide back Biden, while 46% say they prefer Trump, while in the battlegrounds, 52% favor Trump and 45% Biden.

I think the polls may get tighter as more people get to know more about Kamala Harris. I know myself, after finding out more about her, the more I am glad Biden picked her.

The sort of that person that wont vote for Harris because of her past will never vote for Trump.

[Felya]

The sort of that person that wont vote for Harris because of her past will never vote for Trump.

To reiterate... That poll is from months before Harris was chosen, for a reason.

Edit: There is literally less time until the election, than from that poll to now.

[Belize]

Interesting recent poll by CNN......https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/polit...020/index.html

Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden's lead over President Donald Trump now stands at five points, but Trump has an edge in the critical battleground states that could decide the electoral college, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.
In the new poll, 51% of registered voters nationwide back Biden, while 46% say they prefer Trump, while in the battlegrounds, 52% favor Trump and 45% Biden.

I think the polls may get tighter as more people get to know more about Kamala Harris. I know myself, after finding out more about her, the more I am glad Biden picked her.

You know we're in August and not May right?

Get out of here, you dishonest shill.

[Felya]

You know we're in August and not May right?

Get out of here, you dishonest shill.

How can people not realize that there is a problem, if you have to use tricks to garner support for your candidate? There is no sense of something being off putting? A little feeling of dread? A tingle on the back of your spine?

[PACOX]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...KCN25C0VO?il=0

Relevant given the situation, but Pelosi is bringing the House back early to address the USPS funding shortage.

The Senate is still on break unless McConnel decides to do something other than ram through judicial confirmations, for once.

I know that I couldn't care less what the Senate does. I expect McConnel to do nothing. In a perfect world, they would address the problem too, in a perfect world this wouldn't be an issue.

I think the issue was shat on for too long but I'm glad they are actively addressing it even though any final say-so is out of their hands. Just like with the impeachment, it needs to be on record that everyone knows the game that Trump is playing - at least voters will know what they are facing in November.

And Pelosi decided to make a move the week of the DNC.

[Felya]

And Pelosi decided to make a move the week of the DNC.

They don’t really have a choice... 78 days... *goosebumps*

[Omega10]

Interesting recent poll by CNN......https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/polit...020/index.html

Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden's lead over President Donald Trump now stands at five points, but Trump has an edge in the critical battleground states that could decide the electoral college, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.
In the new poll, 51% of registered voters nationwide back Biden, while 46% say they prefer Trump, while in the battlegrounds, 52% favor Trump and 45% Biden.

I think the polls may get tighter as more people get to know more about Kamala Harris. I know myself, after finding out more about her, the more I am glad Biden picked her.

This poll is definitely an outlier, and I am very happy that polls like this are coming out.

First of all, a poll that ended up being more pro-Biden:

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/election-a...100001517.html

Title: Election advantage stays with Biden; enthusiasm deficit eases, but remains: POLL

Highlights from the article:

Biden up 53-41 among registered voters, 54-44 among likely voters.

Important excerpts:

Beneath that result is an underlying shift: the share of Biden supporters who are very enthusiastic about supporting him has grown from 28% in March to 48% today. He still has a wide deficit on this gauge compared with Trump, with 65% strong enthusiasm, but it's eased considerably.

Trump is still winning the enthusiasm contest, but the gap is much smaller.

Biden's enthusiasm score started up before he selected Harris; it's risen in ABC/Post polls since May. Nonetheless, views of her selection are positive; as reported Sunday, Americans approve by a 25-point margin, 54-29%.

Moreover, 54% see Harris as qualified to take over as president if something happened to Biden, as many as those who say the same about Mike Pence and Trump. Just 33% see her as "too liberal" -- a GOP line of attack. And a narrow majority, 52%, sees her favorably overall, the only one of the four to cross that line. Biden toes it, at 50% favorability, vs. 44% for Pence and 42% for Trump.

I know you have to say that you are happy that Kamala was selected as Vice President, but everything I've seen indicates that this is just a campaign lie that you have to say. The republican attacks on her so far have been quite lame and very dishonest, and her roll out was done quite well by the Biden campaign.

Why I am more likely to believe the pro-Biden polls (for what its worth):

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

From 538: your poll is a definite outlier on the results of the Presidential contest - the other national polls have Biden up +9 or more. Also, look at the Presidential approval ratings. Your poll agrees with the others in this score:

Trump Approval: 43%, Disapproval: 54% The other polls have Trump a bit worse.

43% is in the area where Trump can steal the election. But barely. And is not real compatible with just a 4-5 point Biden lead.

The closer poll shows how much work democrats still have to do. And Ghostpanther and others will say whatever it takes to support Trump. They must be fought hard every step of the way.

[Ghostpanther]

How is it possible that a radical 2nd amendment conspiracy theorist, convinced that at any moment the government will come take his guns, also supports a would be autocrat? Trump is literally the first president that represents an actual threat to American democracy and the freedoms it ensures, including the 2nd amendment.

I bet you'd support taking the guns away from certain people that Trump declared "dangerous."

Such cognitive dissonance should be declared a personality disorder.

Typical response from too many on this forum. But thankfully, there is a easy solution to handle it.

I welcome any disagreements from anyone who understands how to respectfully disagree.

[s_bushido]

Typical response from too many on this forum. But thankfully, there is a easy solution to handle it.

I welcome any disagreements from anyone who understands how to respectfully disagree.

So you don't believe the 2nd Amendment is required to secure your safety from tyrannical government behavior?

Why should anyone show respect to a person posting news from 3 months ago, hosted on a site that he would be otherwise claiming is fake news with no value whatsoever?

[Adam Jensen]

I think the polls may get tighter as more people get to know more about Kamala Harris. I know myself, after finding out more about her, the more I am glad Biden picked her.

Just go continue to root for the narcissistic megalomaniac moron you've been supporting without question.

Ignore the Russian meddling, the extortion of a Ukrainian head of state, two affairs with porn stars, the kids locked in cages and separated from their parents, the migrants held indefinitely without due process, the massive decline in economy, the tariffs that ironically only helped China increase its economic and political powers, the cozying up to autocrats like Kim and Putin, the 170,000+ Americans dead due to his negligence . . .

As long as he triggers the libs, amirite?

[breadisfunny]

this is ancedotal so take this with a huge grain of salt but a lot of people in my county that i speak to or observe are seemingly still voting for trump. i'm not sure why other than pure ignorance or hypertribalism.(a lot of their reasons i find tend to be based on republican talking points that only an imbecile would believe. like they are coming to take our rights/guns,etc.) i know my county is right leaning but it's not heavily right leaning. these aren't terrible people but i'm not sure why they can't see him for what he truly is. a few of them seem to have switched sides to biden and i do mean very few. i also realize wisconsin only has 11 electoral votes so it probably won't matter. (i wonder if the coronavirus cost any states an electoral vote this year? or is that done at census?)

[Shadowferal]

Trump administration finalizes plan to open up Alaska wildlife refuge to drilling

I never consider labeling myself in any direction, but there are certain issues that will have me flying to one side in furious opposition.

[Ghostpanther]

So you don't believe the 2nd Amendment is required to secure your safety from tyrannical government behavior?

Why should anyone show respect to a person posting news from 3 months ago, hosted on a site that he would be otherwise claiming is fake news with no value whatsoever?

My main support for the Second Amendment is based on the principle of self defense from individual criminals/attackers. I do not think a armed populace can over throw a government in today's modern age which has modern military equipment. Unless they get part of the organized military to help.

For the same reasons I have and will continue to do. I try to respect everyone, no matter how much they disagree with my stances. But, it is a waste of time to debate with disrespectful and immature people. And how old a post is and it's relevance, is going to depend on the subject. And what is a fake news source is not going to be shared by everyone.

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Just go continue to root for the narcissistic megalomaniac moron you've been supporting without question.

Ignore the Russian meddling, the extortion of a Ukrainian head of state, two affairs with porn stars, the kids locked in cages and separated from their parents, the migrants held indefinitely without due process, the massive decline in economy, the tariffs that ironically only helped China increase its economic and political powers, the cozying up to autocrats like Kim and Putin, the 170,000+ Americans dead due to his negligence . . .

As long as he triggers the libs, amirite?

Nope. You are wrong in my opinion on every point you made in this reply.

[kaid]

this is ancedotal so take this with a huge grain of salt but a lot of people in my county that i speak to or observe are seemingly still voting for trump. i'm not sure why other than pure ignorance or hypertribalism.(a lot of their reasons i find tend to be based on republican talking points that only an imbecile would believe. like they are coming to take our rights/guns,etc.) i know my county is right leaning but it's not heavily right leaning. these aren't terrible people but i'm not sure why they can't see him for what he truly is. a few of them seem to have switched sides to biden and i do mean very few. i also realize wisconsin only has 11 electoral votes so it probably won't matter. (i wonder if the coronavirus cost any states an electoral vote this year? or is that done at census?)

There is a reason snake oil salesman have been a thing forever. There is a good chunk of people who can be deeply affected by them and have a difficult time seeing what they are selling as a fraud because they want to believe in it so much they disregard all evidence to the contrary.

[Ghostpanther]

Trump administration finalizes plan to open up Alaska wildlife refuge to drilling

I never consider labeling myself in any direction, but there are certain issues that will have me flying to one side in furious opposition.

I do not support the Alaska wild life refuge drilling. I never supported the Keystone Pipeline ether. Still don't.

[Smitzelplix]

Interesting recent poll by CNN......https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/polit...020/index.html

Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden's lead over President Donald Trump now stands at five points, but Trump has an edge in the critical battleground states that could decide the electoral college, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.
In the new poll, 51% of registered voters nationwide back Biden, while 46% say they prefer Trump, while in the battlegrounds, 52% favor Trump and 45% Biden.

I think the polls may get tighter as more people get to know more about Kamala Harris. I know myself, after finding out more about her, the more I am glad Biden picked her.

This isn't a recent poll though, you linked something from May and before Harris was chosen as his VP, so your post doesn't make sense.