Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[wunksta]

I looked for the shortest, cleanest audio clip I could find. One that didn't have a title that was incendiary or suggested anything positive or negative about the comments. If it comforts you I literally didn't even care to look who posted it, as you say, that doesn't matter because the clip wasn't doctored or faked.

He also walked back his comments on the matter.

[Theodarzna]

He also walked back his comments on the matter.

Cool, than I accept that.

[beanman12345]

I still don't understand the point. Are you saying we should vote for the one actively dismantling the USPS, or the one who might based on the actions of his party predecessor and not even his own policies?

To me, not that this quote is even relevant to all of his decisions, "nothing will fundamentally change" in this context means that USPS was not privatized and still won't be.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with them believing all of trump's election interference conspiracies, nope.

[Felya]

Cool, than I accept that.

Now, how is Trump protecting USPS?

[Edge-]

https://www.businessinsider.com/kush...blitzer-2020-8

Per the Wiz Kid himself, Jared Kushner, the US response to the coronavirus is a "success story" with over 170K dead Americans in 6 months.

But sure, I guess another 4 years of them is preferable to a guy we may not like but actually listens to experts.

[Ghostpanther]

This isn't a recent poll though, you linked something from May and before Harris was chosen as his VP, so your post doesn't make sense.

You are correct. I did not notice that date of the poll. But a recent one shows nationally, by CNN , does show Biden up by only 4 points. For some odd reason, I got that one mixed up I guess with the May one. Not even sure how that happened. Thanks for showing it to me. It makes sense however, at the time it was taken. Just not updated to reflect the current events. Which I agree is the most important one we should be looking at.

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There is a poll released today by cnn.
I think he just linked wrong.
I think he ment this one: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/16/p...ust/index.html
I may be wrong though

Thanks for linking the one I tried to. lol! Not sure what the hell happened with me linking the wrong.

[beanman12345]

You are correct. I did not notice that date of the poll. But a recent one shows nationally, by CNN , does show Biden up by only 4 points. For some odd reason, I got that one mixed up I guess with the May one. Not even sure how that happened. Thanks for showing it to me. It makes sense however, at the time it was taken. Just not updated to reflect the current events. Which I agree is the most important one we should be looking at.

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Thanks for linking the one I tried to. lol! Not sure what the hell happened with me linking the wrong.

What happened is the correct poll destroys your narrative that Harris was not a good pick, because the poll from today shows it's a great pick.

[beanman12345]

Looking at only the Battleground states I would be pretty worried about the current state of the race.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/polit...nd/ar-BB183pQV


The trajectory seems like Trump is closing in on Biden. There is still a few months left and I wouldn't be praising news that shows my competitor becoming more competitive.

You would be worried, if you weren't perfectly happy and content with 4 more years of Trump like you are.

[Ghostpanther]

Instead of a disagreement, I respectfully ask what exactly it is that you see in Trump, that inspires you to vote for him? If it's not just "triggering the libs", as you seem to insist is not the case?

I'm trying real hard not to resort to my usual vitriol when it comes to Trump supporters, but for someone who is trying to seem like they are polite and reasonable, I do not understand your loyalty to someone who is anything but.

It's his policies. Not his personality that I support. I have listed them on here many times. I am pro life, want a strong military and less involvement into foreign affairs. Bring the troops home from the useless and seemly endless conflicts overseas. I support Israel. Lower taxes. Appointment of conservative judges and justices.

I am not a registered Republican and never voted for a Republican before I voted for Romney in 2012. I voted for Obama in 2008. In the past, I voted for Ralph Nader every time he ran.

That is the jest of it without making the post too long and I get taken offline.

[Shadowferal]

On other news, Graham now has a fight on his hands;
Cook shifts South Carolina Senate race toward Lindsey Graham opponent

The Cook Political Report on Monday shifted its outlook for the South Carolina Senate race toward Democrat Jaime Harrison, bringing Sen. Lindsey Graham's (R-S.C.) reelection bid into more competitive territory.

The nonpartisan election handicapper moved the race from its "likely" Republican column into the "lean" Republican column. That means that Graham still has the advantage, but his seat has come into play for Democrats.
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At this point in time, it's a double edged sword.

[Ghostpanther]

What happened is the correct poll destroys your narrative that Harris was not a good pick, because the poll from today shows it's a great pick.

Narrative? It is a opinion. I think she will be horrible for the US if you are a conservative. I think she is a far left liberal. Look at her record as the DA for California and even how she was very harsh on Biden during the primaries and even said she believed the accusers against him. Accused him of being a racist, etc. ( she did back track that later.)

She is a One Eyed Jack in my opinion. I do not think Biden picked her. If he did, he is crazy to. She was picked by the party. Biden does not know the time of the day it is at times or even where he is. :P

[SirBeef]

It's his policies. Not his personality that I support. I have listed them on here many times. I am pro life, want a strong military and less involvement into foreign affairs. Bring the troops home from the useless and seemly endless conflicts overseas. I support Israel. Lower taxes. Appointment of conservative judges and justices.

I am not a registered Republican and never voted for a Republican before I voted for Romney in 2012. I voted for Obama in 2008. In the past, I voted for Ralph Nader every time he ran.

That is the jest of it without making the post too long and I get taken offline.

Yeah I highly doubt you never voted for a Republican until Romney with the drivel you post here.

[Omega10]

Looking at only the Battleground states I would be pretty worried about the current state of the race.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/polit...nd/ar-BB183pQV


The trajectory seems like Trump is closing in on Biden. There is still a few months left and I wouldn't be praising news that shows my competitor becoming more competitive.

I am very worried about the state of the race. Trump could very well still be President next year. Right now it seems like Trump support has bottomed out at 42%, which puts him in range to pull off a victory. But really all we can do if fight as hard as we can.

I don't know if you will continue fighting for Trump or not, but I will do what I can to get Biden in office. If it weren't for the virus I'd be out and about registering voters and setting up appointments to drive people to the polls on election day. Instead, after the convention this week I'll be calling the local democratic election center and offer what help I can give staying at home. No where near as effective, but what can ya do.

[Theodarzna]

You would be worried, if you weren't perfectly happy and content with 4 more years of Trump like you are.

What is this suppose to mean exactly? Like what? Is any plausibly bad news some secret plot by secret Trump voters?

I find a peculiar pattern here in this thread. Anything critical, anything negative, anything skeptical, must by a secretive psyop; like what are you accusing Jettiswan of doing here? Is the information he or she posted not true? Or what are you saying?

[beanman12345]

I know myself, after finding out more about her, the more I am glad Biden picked her.

I do not think Biden picked her.

At least you are consistent.

[Ghostpanther]

At least you are consistent.

I will take that as a compliment. Thanks. Be true to your own convictions no matter who disagrees with them is one motto I try to live by.

[beanman12345]

What is this suppose to mean exactly? Like what? Is any plausibly bad news some secret plot by secret Trump voters?

I find a peculiar pattern here in this thread. Anything critical, anything negative, anything skeptical, must by a secretive psyop; like what are you accusing Jettiswan of doing here? Is the information he or she posted not true? Or what are you saying?

I know basic reading comprehension is hard. I meant it exactly like I said it. He's not voting. He's perfectly happy and content with Trump as president. He's equally happy and content with Biden as president. Therefore, he's not worried. I never even mentioned being negative or critical, projecting your own insecurities as a Trump supporter much?

[Theodarzna]

It's his policies. Not his personality that I support. I have listed them on here many times. I am pro life, want a strong military and less involvement into foreign affairs. Bring the troops home from the useless and seemly endless conflicts overseas. I support Israel. Lower taxes. Appointment of conservative judges and justices.

I am not a registered Republican and never voted for a Republican before I voted for Romney in 2012. I voted for Obama in 2008. In the past, I voted for Ralph Nader every time he ran.

That is the jest of it without making the post too long and I get taken offline.

The strongest case against Trump is that he essentially betrayed his voters and has with a few small and commendable exceptions governed as Hillary would have governed and in some cases merely continued Obama era policies or Bush era policies. He has been, a Right-Leaning Neo-Liberal whom largely annoys the elite classes by being a prick publicly and by scuttling the TTP/TTIP and his Tariffs, momentarily harmed a few corporate power brokers profits. If he pardons Snowden I'll re-evaluate him, but largely he didn't do much of anything he was elected to do.

The greatest case against Trump is he betrayed much of his promises and governed more or less how a Mitt Romney would govern. The Democrats cannot capitalize on this because they are busy with open arms adopting the Mitt Romney and John Kaisach politics.

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I am critical, therefore, I must be dishonest. It must be impossible for someone to be critical what one candidate represents,and absolute despise the other.

All I'm saying minus Pandemic, I am getting some very 2016 vibes going. People can blame me for Trump, but the fact is everyone on of my states Electoral College Votes will go to Biden.

It seems that way, as though your criticism comes not from some sincere place, but is presumed to come from some nefarious plot. As if you in actuality think and know exactly as this person, but you only say differently out of some form of corruption or evil. Like you are just a bad person playing a trick.

[Omega10]

I am critical, therefore, I must be dishonest. It must be impossible for someone to be critical what one candidate represents,and absolute despise the other.

All I'm saying minus Pandemic, I am getting some very 2016 vibes going. People can blame me for Trump, but the fact is everyone on of my states Electoral College Votes will go to Biden.

If Biden is President in 2021 and democrats take the Senate, we can fight those battles then.
If Trump wins, or if democrats don't retake the Senate, their won't be any battles worth fighting. It will all be trying to prevent further disasters from happening to the US.

No one is blaming you for Trump. We are, mostly correctly, blaming you for fighting battles prematurely in a manner that helps Trump. And we are VERY worried about Trump staying on as President, and about McConnell staying on as Senate Majority Leader. The more worried we get, the more we will push back on you fighting these battles at a bad time. The closer the polls, the harder we will fight.

[Ghostpanther]

The strongest case against Trump is that he essentially betrayed his voters and has with a few small and commendable exceptions governed as Hillary would have governed and in some cases merely continued Obama era policies or Bush era policies. He has been, a Right-Leaning Neo-Liberal whom largely annoys the elite classes by being a prick publicly and by scuttling the TTP/TTIP and his Tariffs, momentarily harmed a few corporate power brokers profits. If he pardons Snowden I'll re-evaluate him, but largely he didn't do much of anything he was elected to do.

The greatest case against Trump is he betrayed much of his promises and governed more or less how a Mitt Romney would govern. The Democrats cannot capitalize on this because they are busy with open arms adopting the Mitt Romney and John Kaisach politics.

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I do not share that opinion. From my perspective, he has fulfilled more campaign promises than any President that I have been old enough to know.