Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Draco-Onis]

Honestly it's probably for the best.

At least he isn't actively, maliciously sabotaging anything.

Unfortunately no he's been padding the pockets of the Kushners and their friends. He is so low key even his congressional grillings go unnoticed.

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I forget that he exists lol. Has he really been sleeping in the HUD office all these years?

He had a few fraud scandals but got drowned out. Trump's administration is so dirty it is easy for him to hide in the toxic muck.

[Edge-]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rush-l...taped?ref=home

Rush Limbaugh has a great new conspiracy: There's no way Biden could give a speech without a mistake, it had to be pre-taped and edited!

Limbaugh summed up his “legitimate question” as, “Was that thing really live, or was it a series of edited-together segments, made to look live, on the premise that Biden isn't capable of 22 minutes, however long it was, of flawless reading, with proper emotion and all that, of what's on a teleprompter, without making a single mistake?”

The intellectual vanguard of the Republican party strikes a mortal blow once again.

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https://www.motherjones.com/2020-ele...a-voter-fraud/

Instead of bucking up and taking the latter way out, the Trump campaign submitted 524 pages of utterly irrelevant documents to opposing legal counsel, first reported Thursday by the Intercept and Type Investigations. The mix includes copies of applications the Trump campaign submitted to register pollwatchers, a series of unfilled public requests to counties inquiring about mail ballot procedures, and printouts of a few news stories from Philadelphia discussing isolated election fraud convictions—none of which are about drop boxes.

When asked by a judge to provide proof of voter fraud with Pennsylvania secure ballot drop boxes to back up their claims of voter fraud, the Trump campaign again was completely incapable of doing so.

Because despite the constant pearl clutching, voter fraud remains rare and isolated and there remains no evidence to support their continued lies about the risks of widespread voter fraud.

At least they didn't trot out Kris Kobach, whose greatest victory in his crusade against voter fraud remains taking a senior citizen to court because he voted twice. Because the old dude was confused and thought that owning property in two states allowed him to vote on local matters in both states, he didn't even vote on the state/federal matters on the ballot for his second property because it was not his intention to engage in voter fraud.

Bless Kris Kobach for keeping US elections safe from the odd, mildly confused senior citizen.

[draynay]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rush-l...taped?ref=home

Rush Limbaugh has a great new conspiracy: There's no way Biden could give a speech without a mistake, it had to be pre-taped and edited!



The intellectual vanguard of the Republican party strikes a mortal blow once again.

I get that they haven't seen politicians speak coherently in a few years, but it used to happen all the time.

[Ripster42]

I hate to tell you this, but most people will probably laugh and then proceed to immediately forget about it because it really, really, really doesn't fuckin matter to them.

Joe Everyman and Jill Everwoman don't much give a shit if she claimed to be a Native American decades ago on a form somewhere or that she entered a plagiarized recipe into a Native American cookbook.

You're dramatically overstating the significance of what is, in reality, a pretty minor issue to all but the most woke of woke lefties. And Native American groups who are, really, the only ones that have any standing to take offense to this and give a shit.

I don't know why you accept theo's BS. The DNA test puts the ancestor between around 1770-1870 assuming normal generation length (between 1/64 & 1/1024 :: (64)1024 =(2^6)2^10 :: (6)10 gens*25yrs = (150)250 :: between 150 and 250yrs on the outside, or more than one ancestor further back, with increasing amounts of separate lines of ancestors, as you progress further into the past). Warren's grandma possibly knew the antecedent. It's not surprising ignorant people laugh. Ignorant people laugh at a lot of things they don't understand.

The only thing to fault warren for is she fell for trump's taunting, and committed a gaff by trotting out an ancestor of indiscriminate native american origin like someone's one black ancestor/friend. But notice who theo focuses their ire on. Not the person calling her pocahontas. Not the one promoting racism, but someone being inconsiderate in an attempt to stop a racist's rantings.

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I forget that he exists lol. Has he really been sleeping in the HUD office all these years?

Well, the treasury paid 34k to remodel it on a 5k budget, so I hope it gets some use.

[PhaelixWW]

Today, Rasmussen and Hill/Harris polls had Biden leading by +4 and +6. The RealClearPolitics average is Biden with a +7.6 lead.

Just an update after the last one: HarrisX (The Hill), which as I pointed out tends to poll Biden lower than the average, just released a new poll with Biden +8.

[Ghostpanther]

Just an update after the last one: HarrisX (The Hill), which as I pointed out tends to poll Biden lower than the average, just released a new poll with Biden +8.

Thanks for the update. Do you think Biden will match Hillary's lead she had 12 days before the election this time?

https://time.com/4546942/hillary-cli...ump-lead-poll/

Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Donald Trump, polling 14 percentage points ahead nationally, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, which comes 12 days before the presidential election.

Conducted after the final presidential debate, the poll finds the Democratic nominee leads Trump among likely voters 51% to 37%, a significant lead over the Republican candidate.

According to the poll, Clinton has support of 90% of likely Democratic voters, as well as support from 15% of moderate Republicans. Of the Republicans surveyed, 79% said they would vote for Trump.

The poll finds that Clinton has consolidated the support of her party, while even managing to draw Republican voters.

[Felya]

https://time.com/4546942/hillary-cli...ump-lead-poll/

Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Donald Trump, polling 14 percentage points ahead nationally, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, which comes 12 days before the presidential election.

The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton The Election
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-the-election/

Hillary Clinton would probably be president if FBI Director James Comey had not sent a letter to Congress on Oct. 28. The letter, which said the FBI had “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation” into the private email server that Clinton used as secretary of state, upended the news cycle and soon halved Clinton’s lead in the polls, imperiling her position in the Electoral College.

This is where you say Comey was setting Trump up and should have been fired...

[Draco-Onis]

The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton The Election
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-the-election/


This is where you say Comey was setting Trump up and should have been fired...

Let's not forget though Bill Barr is cooking up an October surprise alongside Dunham to mimic Comey's letter.

[horus19]

The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton The Election

Listen dogshit for brains, you should have worked out by now 538 are essentially guessing.

This is a horrible, horrible article full of the worst kind of confirmation bias as should be obvious to any one who didn't flunk high school.

[Felya]

Let's not forget though Bill Barr is cooking up an October surprise alongside Dunham to mimic Comey's letter.

Oh I’m sure, but it will not be the same, as it was when Comey did it. A Trump sycophant wouldn’t work as well as a guy that GOP claimed let Hillary off the hook, just a few months prior.

[Blur4stuff]

Whatever stunt Trump and Barr pull isn't going to hold weight unless they have legitimate proof of something that they immediately share. Saying they've opened an investigation or that they're looking into something... anything vague is going to be seen for the bullshit it is.

[Thepersona]

Let's not forget though Bill Barr is cooking up an October surprise alongside Dunham to mimic Comey's letter.

Oh, i forgot that. How desperate and corrupt can they be?

[Benggaul]

Oh, i forgot that. How desperate and corrupt can they be?

Make sure you're stating for the record that you said that rhetorically, because they seem hell-bent on proving just how low they can go...

[Thepersona]

Make sure you're stating for the record that you said that rhetorically, because they seem hell-bent on proving just how low they can go...

Oh yeah, it was a rhetorical question. These people make the banana republics of latin america seem like bastions of integrity.

[Edge-]

When you’re so desperate you ask you employed folks to skip meals so you can keep your cushy job.



https://mobile.twitter.com/yashar/st...89517027487744

Sure, food banks are desperate for donations because there are so many people relying on them to feed their families, but I guess her campaign is worth more because she'll...uh...continue to work in the Senate to not pass a bill to provide further assistance in the middle of a pandemic?

That sure is an odd pitch.

[Theodarzna]

Let's not forget though Bill Barr is cooking up an October surprise alongside Dunham to mimic Comey's letter.

My gut says there is nothing that could be released that will make a splash. I mean, its 2020, there is an apocalyptic disaster day in day out. Like, what are they going to reveal? That Biden might have partied on Epstein Island? Fuck at this point it might be easier to compile a list of elites who didn't. There is in short no bombshell I can imagine other than "Biden is actually dead and its all pre-recordings and deep fakes" that could make enough of a splash to overcome the noise of the constant horror show that is just the 2020 news cycle.

I don't think, with the way the economy is going, the pandemic, and just the rolling news of horrific disaster after disaster, even if some of them are just acts of the Gods, that any president, even the most competent, even the most visionary leader could overcome.

[PhaelixWW]

Thanks for the update. Do you think Biden will match Hillary's lead she had 12 days before the election this time?

https://time.com/4546942/hillary-cli...ump-lead-poll/

Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Donald Trump, polling 14 percentage points ahead nationally, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, which comes 12 days before the presidential election.

Except that Hillary didn't really have a 14 point lead on Trump at that point, unless you cherry-pick the outlier poll. 538's aggregate polling had her up about 6.5% at that point, and even that was just about the widest margin she had the entire campaign run.




Their aggregate numbers even showed that lead narrowed to lows of 0.2% on 7/30, 1.1% on 9/20, and even 2.7% on 11/4. That lead was far more volatile than Biden's is now. Biden's lead has remained consistent throughout, and has only really broadened as time moves on.




And while Trump was less of a known political entity (at least to the masses) in 2016, everyone now is painfully familiar with the kind of President he would be with another four years. So the number of people who might vote for him on a lark just to "shake up the system" is probably fairly non-existent at this point.

Also at this point in the 2016 election, there were 19.2% undecided/third party. Right now in the 2020 election, it's 6.3%. Biden's consistently polled over 50%, so Trump can't simply pick up a large chunk of undecided/third party votes in order to surpass Biden. Hillary never aggregately polled over 46%, but ended up with 48.2%. Biden, on the other hand, has never aggregately polled below 47.5%.

Trump knows all this, which is why he's doing everything he can to suppress voters.

[Zan15]

Except that Hillary didn't really have a 14 point lead on Trump at that point, unless you cherry-pick the outlier poll. 538's aggregate polling had her up about 6.5% at that point, and even that was just about the widest margin she had the entire campaign run.




Their aggregate numbers even showed that lead narrowed to lows of 0.2% on 7/30, 1.1% on 9/20, and even 2.7% on 11/4. That lead was far more volatile than Biden's is now. Biden's lead has remained consistent throughout, and has only really broadened as time moves on.

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Wait @Ghostpanther cherry picking polls, you don't saaaaaaaaay?? Still it has been nice he has not been able to post a single positive poll for trump in months no matter how hard he looks. Even Rasmussen has turned sour even with their hidden "data".

i mean rasmussen is so desperate they are now getting sponsers for their polls
Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll sponsored by Liberty Nation for Friday

They should at this point be kicked out of any aggregate polling site they are so tainted.

[Thelxi]

The consensus across the entire political spectrum is that Biden's closing speech was.. great, kinda taking the punch out of the senility propaganda that spawned from the right and was eagerly picked up by the fringes of the left the moment it became clear he won SC in a landslide. One good speech is all it took, who could've seen it coming. Big brains back to the drawing board then; big hole in the meme market.

[Benggaul]

So, a solid piece of good news is that Arizona Senator McSally seems to be losing her bid at reelection. Part of that MIGHT be because she asked her supporters to "fast" for a meal and send the cash they saved to her election campaign. During a pandemic. That cost many of them their jobs. After ending unemployment insurance for people who lost their jobs in the pandemic...

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The consensus across the entire political spectrum is that Biden's closing speech was.. great, kinda taking the punch out of the senility propaganda that spawned from the right and was eagerly picked up by the fringes of the left the moment it became clear he won SC in a landslide. One good speech is all it took, who could've seen it coming. Big brains back to the drawing board then; big hole in the meme market.

They're back on the "but what about TARA READE?!" kick, apparently. Thought that might just be shrapnel from the "time to cancel Alyssa Milano for supporting a rapist" thing that's happening on social media now. *shrug*