Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Bapestar]

The caping some people do for Trump is utterly insane...

[D Luniz]

The caping some people do for Trump is utterly insane...

they are doing Kellyann quality work

but for free, and more often

[noidentity]

they are doing Kellyann quality work

but for free, and more often

Except Kellyann has more 'integrity' than the people LARPing as non-Trump supporters on this forum.

[Theodarzna]

Except Kellyann has more 'integrity' than the people LARPing as non-Trump supporters on this forum.

The standard for Trump supporter on this forum is seemingly "You don't cheerlead for the DNC!" Hell even professed Biden voters get called Trump supporters.

[PACOX]

Except Kellyann has more 'integrity' than the people LARPing as non-Trump supporters on this forum.

You get called a Trump supporter around here for being left or right of mainline Democrats.

[Felya]

The standard for Trump supporter on this forum is seemingly "You don't cheerlead for the DNC!" Hell even professed Biden voters get called Trump supporters.

Bullshit... It’s shit like posting 176 people killed by white nationalist being overblown by the media, nearly at the same time as claiming democrats went insane for the #walkaway movement. Stop it...

[alexw]

You get called a Trump supporter around here for being left or right of mainline Democrats.

Nope. They get called a Trump supporter because of their non-stop incessant concern trolling over Biden. You'll note that these supposed left wingers (ignoring the fact that some of them like Theo have in the past publically admitted to being alt right Trump supporters), never say a bad word about Trump despite him being far far to the right of Biden. They just attack Biden for being too right wing.

Their aim being to try and discourage those who are on the left of the political spectrum (I'd say I'm somewhat to the left of Sanders) from voting against Trump in this election, because they damn well know they won't be able to change those votes to pro-Trump ones, so this is their second best way to win.

If you remember back to 2016 they were doing exactly the same thing then. They are just repeating those tactics.

[Theodarzna]

Nope. They get called a Trump supporter because of their non-stop incessant concern trolling over Biden. You'll note that these supposed left wingers (ignoring the fact that some of them like Theo have in the past publically admitted to being alt right Trump supporters), never say a bad word about Trump despite him being far far to the right of Biden. They just attack Biden for being too right wing.

Their aim being to try and discourage those who are on the left of the political spectrum (I'd say I'm somewhat to the left of Sanders) from voting against Trump in this election, because they damn well know they won't be able to change those votes to pro-Trump ones, so this is their second best way to win.

If you remember back to 2016 they were doing exactly the same thing then. They are just repeating those tactics.

People claim things but rarely can they prove things. I'd think if I had you'd all have that saved.

All you guys do is cite threads that amount to "She isn't our cheerleader, she must be an enemy!" which is very on brand for Liberalism which has absorbed that Friend-Enemy logic.

[Felya]

You get called a Trump supporter around here for being left or right of mainline Democrats.

Really? Want to go over the things you called me, for not jumping on the Reade bandwagon? Because, I don’t think you being called a Trump supporter, had anything to do with right or left policy. In fact, just search the forum for “ghost face Felya”... That way I don’t have to link it...

Not a single person on this forum, accusing people of being Trump supporters, have anything to do with being too left or right of democrats. You think people not voting, writing in or saying they will vote Trump, supporting medicare for all, has anything to do with medicare for all? Do you think discouraging voting, while claiming to be a liberal/leftist/BLM activist, is disagreements bread from policy? How about finding a single person on this forum, that is voting Biden, for his policy and not to stop Trump?

I’ll take it a step further... Give me a single example of an actual or fake Trump supporter, arguing policy of Trump or any right wing policy outside of ‘mah guns’.

This is the magic of current political conflict. You have polls, literally showing the lack of enthusiasm in voting for Biden, as he leads the polling on likely voters. Yet... people try to argue that the reason there is disagreement like this, is the adherence to the establishment democrats? If Biden’s support is so dry by every measure, why do you think the disagreement is based on loyalty to Biden policy and not Trump’s record?

Because to me, it’s pretty obvious that the disagreement is from nearly 4 years of Trump, and the inability to understand how someone supporting left, liberal or any policy that doesn’t profit Trump Corporation... not voting to stop Trump. Even outside policy... How someone can bring up Reade to demand people not vote, while not saying a peep about Trump blocking the release of his DNA to match a sample from a woman he settled out if court in a rape case... Trump violated the NDA agreement post settlement, by insulting her and is now blocking the DNA match.

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People claim things but rarely can they prove things. I'd think if I had you'd all have that saved.

All you guys do is cite threads that amount to "She isn't our cheerleader, she must be an enemy!" which is very on brand for Liberalism which has absorbed that Friend-Enemy logic.

Yet, when asked to say anything negative about Trump, you still refuse. You also called pulling this very tact on other... “receipts” and encouraged your minions to provide them... which hasn’t worked out.

Edit: @PACOX for fuck’s sake... one of these people regularly accused, who called him self a BLM activist, posted yesterday that Islam and Israel are a threat to western culture. You think that okay? You don’t see a problem, with someone claiming to be a BLM activist, also claiming that disenfranchised American youth, is being turned away from western culture by Islam? All those Islamic white people... That’s who you defending...

[Ripster42]

People claim things but rarely can they prove things. I'd think if I had you'd all have that saved.

All you guys do is cite threads that amount to "She isn't our cheerleader, she must be an enemy!" which is very on brand for Liberalism which has absorbed that Friend-Enemy logic.

Let me know when you actually engage in some of that self criticism you were talking about. Your only criticism of trump was that he didn't fulfill his campaign promises, then linked a video of how it's really the artsy lefties who are the real problem. In a thread about trump.

I think you guys have it covered. And half the time you guys miss the mark or aren't really denouncing him for anything that is important. Like I don't believe in RussiaGhazi or any of that nonsense.

I'd say he deserves to be denounced for failing to uphold his promises to his voters. But lets not pretend for even a minute anyone has those voters interests at heart, after all they are evil deplorables.

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I'm for the most part going off of Hypernormalization to understand this moment, or this documentary by Adam Curtis really rings true in describing and explaining this moment.
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You get called a Trump supporter around here for being left or right of mainline Democrats.

Eh, not really. Only when people seem to be primarily involved in engaging in, to use theo's words, self reflection, while dismissing everything else.

[zealo]

The standard for Trump supporter on this forum is seemingly "You don't cheerlead for the DNC!" Hell even professed Biden voters get called Trump supporters.

Please don't tell me you're so naive you actually expect anyone to buy your concern trolling.

People tend to have memories longer than five minutes, your actual views are no secret to anyone that has been on this forum for a while.

[Felya]

Let me know when you actually engage in some of that self criticism you were talking about. Your only criticism of trump was that he didn't fulfill his campaign promises, then linked a video of how it's really the artsy lefties who are the real problem. In a thread about trump.

Trump doesn’t send aid to democratic states, but it’s the coastal elites that think Trump supporters are deplorable, as we pay them out if debt. Trump is calling everyone against him, an extremist liberal antifa arsonist that will destroy the country... but... Hillary once called half of Trump supporters, a basket of deplorables... wtf?

[alexw]

People claim things but rarely can they prove things. I'd think if I had you'd all have that saved.

All you guys do is cite threads that amount to "She isn't our cheerleader, she must be an enemy!" which is very on brand for Liberalism which has absorbed that Friend-Enemy logic.

Why would I save it? It was a couple years ago when the alt right were a relatively new thing. I'm not in the habit of saving posts from years ago.

I distinctly remember it because of your continual concern trolling in 2016 over Clinton, where you did with her what you are doing now with Biden without me realizing what you were doing, only for me to later realize it after the election result was announced and call you out on it saying that you were deliberately trying to help Trump get elected. I also remember that at that point you posted a bunch of laughing/smiling faces emotes at me. It really stuck in my memory because it dawned on me then what an absolute **** of a person you truly are, as I'd never encountered someone like you online before.

So yeah there you have it.

[Felya]

People tend to have memories longer than five minutes, your actual views are no secret to anyone that has been on this forum for a while.

Just yesterday the BLM activist of this forum, that travels to Brussels from Florida, for medication that costs 150$... Posts how Islam is turning American your against western values... If I said anything as insulting as their obvious opinion of the forum, I’d be perma banned... That’s liberal? That’s left wing now? BLM thinks Islam is turning all those white youths against western culture? Really? But hey, he supports Medicare for All... not more people getting healthcare or access to health care for everyone, but Medicare for all...

I wonder if there was ever a tact, to claim to be socialist, while pushing fascism? I wonder if that game was ever played before...

[arandomuser]

You get called a Trump supporter around here for being left or right of mainline Democrats.

that basically defines a trump supporter
if you arent voting D you are de facto supporting the incumbant

[Felya]

People claim things but rarely can they prove things. I'd think if I had you'd all have that saved.

All you guys do is cite threads that amount to "She isn't our cheerleader, she must be an enemy!" which is very on brand for Liberalism which has absorbed that Friend-Enemy logic.

I’ve shown it numerous times... there is no reason to flood the thread, beyond what it is. Every thread you ask for this, people provide it, mods intervention happens... it’s like a tact of its own.

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that basically defines a trump supporter
if you arent voting D you are de facto supporting the incumbant

Indeed, you are fine with the way things are. That’s what not voting people... it doesn’t mean you are happy about it, to vote for Trump. But, it doesn’t mean you are so upset with it, for you to have a problem with it... it’s... fine... but... what how does that make sense, when advocating for not voting? How can you be both, not happy enough with either candidate, but be so happy with not voting... that you are encouraging others to do the same? I have seen campaigns for voting 3rd party... I have never seen a campaign to not vote...

Actually I have... holly shit... how could I forget...



This fucking joke, is literally what they are doing... lol... I can’t believe I forgot...

[Theodarzna]

Let me know when you actually engage in some of that self criticism you were talking about. Your only criticism of trump was that he didn't fulfill his campaign promises, then linked a video of how it's really the artsy lefties who are the real problem. In a thread about trump.

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Eh, not really. Only when people seem to be primarily involved in engaging in, to use theo's words, self reflection, while dismissing everything else.

Hey, thanks for the help Ripster, you saved me some time.

As Ripster illustrates, it really is that I'm just not a dedicated cheerleader for the DNC.

The problem with Liberals are that Liberals don't really think anything is wrong, Liberals just think the wrong person is driving society.

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Please don't tell me you're so naive you actually expect anyone to buy your concern trolling.

People tend to have memories longer than five minutes, your actual views are no secret to anyone that has been on this forum for a while.

My actual views seem to be distorted by the fact that to many people, if you aren't our cheerleader you are our enemy.

that basically defines a trump supporter
if you arent voting D you are de facto supporting the incumbant

Thanks arandomuser, this put what I said in perhaps easier to understand words.

[Felya]

My actual views seem to be distorted by the fact that to many people, if you aren't our cheerleader you are our enemy.

No one on this forum is cheerleading Biden... Milk or what ever said they were, in a post literally saying how disgusting that was. This is bullshit... this push for Biden, doesn’t exist on the forum. There is no thread to push Biden... national polling confirms this, by contrasting Biden’s anthuriums with his chances to win.

It’s amazing how you claim everyone is wrong about you, while being so obviously wrong about everyone.

This enthusiasm for Biden, that you are trying to balance by ignoring Trump, doesn’t exist... it doesn’t make sense... which makes the actual intent obvious...

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Where are these people cheerleading Biden? Why aren’t they coming out to attack you for besmirching his name? They do not exist... it’s an excuse from 2016, that doesn’t fucking work in 2020... it’s not “I’m with her” it’s “remove the mother fucker”...

[Theodarzna]

Why would I save it? It was a couple years ago when the alt right were a relatively new thing. I'm not in the habit of saving posts from years ago.

I distinctly remember it because of your continual concern trolling in 2016 over Clinton, where you did with her what you are doing now with Biden without me realizing what you were doing, only for me to later realize it after the election result was announced and call you out on it saying that you were deliberately trying to help Trump get elected. I also remember that at that point you posted a bunch of laughing/smiling faces emotes at me. It really stuck in my memory because it dawned on me then what an absolute **** of a person you truly are, as I'd never encountered someone like you online before.

So yeah there you have it.

This seems like a lot of words that boil down to "You weren't cheerleading my TEAM! Thus you are my bitter enemy!" type thinking. And of course I don't like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. If your teams only path to success is to literally close your eyes, and ears and nose to any plausible negativity then you have a problem. As if any sort of critical eye or doubt will cause a crisis of faith within you and cannot be tolerated or allowed.

[Felya]

This seems like a lot of words that boil down to "You weren't cheerleading my TEAM! Thus you are my bitter enemy!" type thinking. And of course I don't like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. If your teams only path to success is to literally close your eyes, and ears and nose to any plausible negativity then you have a problem. As if any sort of critical eye or doubt will cause a crisis of faith within you and cannot be tolerated or allowed.

Bullshit... I’m one of your supposed Biden loyalist:

Those people are homers... he trailed off on most questions and by the end forgot his own campaign site name. People saying Biden won, are either hard core democrats or ‘Hillary and Trump are the same’ crowd, that worships Trump after his win.

... or according to Biden from last nights debates, 4 or 8 more years. That was one of his many gaffs... visit his campaign site, it’s Joe Biden 303303...

Biden seems to need a rewind every 90 seconds or so...

Edit: I’ll vote for him in general, but damn... Biden sucks...

Hit that link... that’s the debate thread... go take a look at your Biden loyalist... You can’t do the same for Trump...

This isn’t about teams... It’s about Trump... If you didn’t close your eyes to Trump, it would be obvious... even in national polling...

Edit: Now do that for Trump? It doesn’t seem like you can... starting a thread on White Nationalist killing 176 people being overblown by the media and a thread on Flynn suffering a worse injustice than Chainy victims... doesn’t count... nor does starting a thread about California changing punishment for intentionally infecting AIDS, was a threat to blood donors... you know, discouraging blood donation due to misunderstanding blood draw, to come to a conclusion that is physically impossible... also doesn’t count...

Edit 2: Sorry, as a blood donor... I will not let go of lying to scare people away from donating blood, just because you have a need about fear-mongering California. You do understand how fucked up it is, to create misinformation that discourages blood donations? Fuck politics... that’s fucked... for what? To make California look bad?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-in-California