Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Theodarzna]

concern trolling.

I am curious how this comes up? I don't think I've ever said I intend to vote for Biden, or that I was a Liberal. Never have I claimed to be a Biden supporter *Gag*, or even more awful, a Liberal.

This gets back to my statement about Friend-Enemy Distinction. Since you guys have adopted the Carl Schmitt logic of "There is only your friend and your enemy" then of course you guys get zany. Anything not on the Team is an enemy. But you also decide to suggest I am "Concern Trolling", I.E. pretending to be on your team, I don't do that either. But for your guys, as PACOX put it:

You get called a Trump supporter around here for being left or right of mainline Democrats.

[Felya]

I am curious how this comes up?

Look up... the thread I linked is an explicit example there of, with intent to shit on California and an outcome of discouraging blood donation.

[beanman12345]

I mean the guy used nazi propoganda to defend trumpsters last week, and his one friend's only defense is that same one they've used 100's of times now "i'm not a trump supporter, i just hate dems."

[Theodarzna]

I mean the guy used nazi propoganda to defend trumpsters last week, and his one friend's only defense is that same one they've used 100's of times now "i'm not a trump supporter, i just hate dems."

At this point "Nazi Propaganda" could be anything from saying the fourteen words to listening to laughing at a Pewdiepie video.

[beanman12345]

At this point "Nazi Propaganda" could be anything from saying the fourteen words to listening to laughing at a Pewdiepie video.

Maybe if you had terrible reading comprehension sure.

[Ripster42]

Hey, thanks for the help Ripster, you saved me some time.

As Ripster illustrates, it really is that I'm just not a dedicated cheerleader for the DNC.

The problem with Liberals are that Liberals don't really think anything is wrong, Liberals just think the wrong person is driving society.

Again, your problem with trump is that he didn't fulfill his campaign promises. Not his policies. Not the way he attempts to enact his policies. Not the way he's using the office of the president to openly sabotage voting. Not the way he is using a foreign power to get and retain the office of president. You claim you don't believe it, with the excuse, "I don't have a tv." As if you're not on the internet with access to the senate intel report or the mueller report. Tell me more that I just care about who's leading.

All of this and pretending to take "a long view of history" while linking that hypernormalization nonsense. Were you just trying to cosplay the phenomenon or something? I don't believe your information synthesis is that bad. It's intentional.

"Oooh I live in californiaaaa. I don't HAVE to vote for biden. CLUTCH CLUTCH CLUTCH." I think of the "my cabbages" meme, but instead it's you there with fake pearls.

[beanman12345]

Guys a week ago I said "you should vote for biden."


Just ignore when I said "I'm planning a trip to the USA around election time and I'll probably vote for Trump, just to spite the establishment Democrats"
or when I said "My displeasure with the Democratic Party's establishment is indeed so great that I'd not be upset if Trump won the elections again in 2020"
or when I said "Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care."

Forget all that, totes not a Trumpster!!!!!!!

[SirBeef]

Maybe if you had terrible reading comprehension sure.

Or arguing in bad faith as Theo has a strong habit of doing.

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True that.

I also refer back to something I stated before:



But what else to expect from centrists / moderates. They are the status quo and keep pushing vulnerable people down. They're the reason why police brutality continues to exist in the USA. "Defund the Police? Maybe, in, the meantime let us rename some streets to BLM instead and call it a day. Oh hey, we did defund some social services in the meantime even though nobody asked for it."

I guess you missed to 400 or so bills for the working class the house passed in the last 2 years that are being used as toilet paper on Bitch McTurtle's desk.

Bot both sides are the same amirite?

[Theodarzna]

Again, your problem with trump is that he didn't fulfill his campaign promises. Not his policies. Not the way he attempts to enact his policies. Not the way he's using the office of the president to openly sabotage voting. Not the way he is using a foreign power to get and retain the office of president. You claim you don't believe it, with the excuse, "I don't have a tv." As if you're not on the internet with access to the senate intel report or the mueller report. Tell me more that I just care about who's leading.

All of this and pretending to take "a long view of history" while linking that hypernormalization nonsense. Were you just trying to cosplay the phenomenon or something? I don't believe your information synthesis is that bad. It's intentional.

"Oooh I live in californiaaaa. I don't HAVE to vote for biden. CLUTCH CLUTCH CLUTCH." I think of the "my cabbages" meme, but instead it's you there with fake pearls.

Yeah, obviously he didn't empower workers, he governed as a free trade guy despite rightly criticizing it.

Obviously if my big concerns are...
> No more wars, get out of the ones we are in.
> Free Trade is bad.
> Universal Health Care
> Restrictions on Immigration.
> Unionization
> "Free Markets" are fake and bad.

There are few others. But yeah, like the fact that he doesn't actually fulfill promises should be a concern. It isn't obviously because his promises were mostly made to those "Icky Deplorables" the people neither party really cares about and Democrats definitely aren't about to start caring about. The Democratic Party is a just not going to ditch Inter-sectional Reaganomics.

You can continue to obsessively monitor every fart trump cuts and rage about the smell, I'd say its not good for your health.

But getting deeper, I don't think you and I share a similar conviction. I believe the system is broken, even evil. I suspect you think its actually fine and its only issues is its just the wrong person is driving. If your team is in charge you can blissfully ignore everything and sleep easily.

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Or arguing in bad faith as Theo has a strong habit of doing.

The accusation seems to come about from a sincere belief that I'm either a deep level psyop, which is as absurd as pinning policy essays on a gaming forum, or that anyone who cheerleading 24/7, must be both an enemy and if they aren't acting as we expect an enemy to act, they are trying to trick you to some end.

[Ripster42]

There are few others. But yeah, like the fact that he doesn't actually fulfill promises should be a concern. It isn't obviously because his promises were mostly made to those "Icky Deplorables" the people neither party really cares about and Democrats definitely aren't about to start caring about. The Democratic Party is a just not going to ditch Inter-sectional Reaganomics.

So, again, do you take the long view of history, or not? On this forum, you explicitly post about one party, to the benefit of another. You claim you don't support the other party, but that's what your actions do. So how does this shift the overton window? Away from the ideas you purport to support (debatably minus your stance on immigration). Elections matter in that push and pull.

But getting deeper, I don't think you and I share a similar conviction. I believe the system is broken, even evil. I suspect you think its actually fine and its only issues is its just the wrong person is driving. If your team is in charge you can blissfully ignore everything and sleep easily.

Why do I think you've made fun of purity tests before?

which is as absurd as pinning policy essays on a gaming forum

If only we had an example of you doing something similar. One mentioned in this thread. In the last few pages.

[Theodarzna]

I'd be impressed to see if they'd pass the same bills if they didn't know in advance they would get blocked on McTurtle's desk.

In fact, I'd be abso-fucking-lutely shocked and I'm not going to hold my breath in the next 4 years either, should Biden win the elections.

At best I'll be proven wrong and I'll get exactly what I wanted.

It is amazing that this energy didn't manifest the early Obama administration when the super uber good guy dems had total power and yet couldn't even do Universal Healthcare with that kind of control. They wasted all their energy on the heritage foundations idea.

[starlord]

just remember, "flood the zone with shit" is the favored tactic of the alt right. on display here for all to see.

[cubby]

just remember, "flood the zone with shit" is the favored tactic of the alt right. on display here for all to see.

Along with hiding their true goals within that storm of shit. The USPS is a perfect example.

[Theodarzna]

Along with hiding their true goals within that storm of shit. The USPS is a perfect example.

What do you actually believe are my goals? I am very curious.

[cubby]

What do you actually believe are my goals? I am very curious.

It's interesting that you so brazenly admit to being part of the alt right after spending so long in denial.
(you're not very good at this, and worse, may not even realize it)

Re your goals: don't know, certainly don't care. carrying water for Trump and his treasonous ilk is in and of itself a horror that makes any other conversation with you entirely irrelevant.

What do you think your goals are?

[Theodarzna]

It's interesting that you so brazenly admit to being part of the alt right after spending so long in denial.
(you're not very good at this, and worse, may not even realize it)

Re your goals: don't know, certainly don't care. carrying water for Trump and his treasonous ilk is in and of itself a horror that makes any other conversation with you entirely irrelevant.

What do you think your goals are?

Oof, I hope you bring a good citation of that.

My goals are just to talk about whatever is interesting in the moment.

[cubby]

Oof, I hope you bring a good citation of that.

I love that you don't see how you are your own source for that statement. You literally admitted to it. Shout if you're still confused, we're here to help.

[Theodarzna]

To be disengenuous and post in bad faith in order to further your personal narrative?

The belief that my posts are a psyop is perhaps the third most intriguing thing about the Theo Mythos on this board. Sadly it isn't the funniest, but the most interesting thing to read.

To be disingenuous or fake, I'd have to be actually asserting I'm actually totally a Democrat/Liberal with some concerns. I never do this. I don't think I've ever tried to claim I was some sort totally a Democrat or a big loyal Blue Team person with concerns. I've not tried to tell you I was one, or I cannot recall doing so.

And what "Personal Narrative", I think you guys take this forum far too seriously, acting like your avatar is your personal brand.

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I love that you don't see how you are your own source for that statement. You literally admitted to it. Shout if you're still confused, we're here to help.

So you have no citation except "Dude, Trust me!"

[cubby]

So you have no citation except "Dude, Trust me!"

You. Admitted. It. Above. I'm citing your admission.

If you don't understand, ask and I'll explain. But don't sealion us.

[Captain N]

I love that you don't see how you are your own source for that statement. You literally admitted to it. Shout if you're still confused, we're here to help.

It's like we forgot her and Tony threatening to throw Liberals out of helicopters....or her endorsement of the Christchurch shooter. Or the endless bad faith posts and the numerous times being caught plagiarizing other people's work and claiming it as her own.

But none of that is Alt-Right behavior amiright?