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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Totally not surprised the concern trolls with 400-500 posts in this thread mysteriously being absent during RNC.
    It’s 3:30 am in Romania and there were a few bans earlier today.

    Edit: As a side note, I am not watching it... ESPN has a mock draft going... it’s the post Summerslam Raw and NBA playoffs... all screens busy... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s 3:30 am in Romania and there were a few bans earlier today.

    Edit: As a side note, I am not watching it... ESPN has a mock draft going... it’s the post Summerslam Raw and NBA playoffs... all screens busy... lol
    Well, that explains 1 of the 3 usual suspects. But not even sure that 1 even was shitting on the Dem convention as much as the other two were. Could be wrong though.

    btw i'm not watching it either. though I didn't watch the Dem convention either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    So with George Conway stepping back from the Lincoln Project, they found a replacement, and it is a hell of a doozy. Michael Steele is joining the Lincoln Project in an advisory role.

    Steele was an RNC Chairman from 2009 to 2011, literally the head of the GOP during that time. He oversaw the largest GOP wins in a century during the 2010 elections, but was forced out before the 2012 elections. Steele is a "Big Tent" GOPer to the max, he was part of that effort to rebrand the GOP toward younger voters and minorities, to make it more of a working class party. All the ideals that Trump ripped away from the GOP before he danced on the corpse. Steele is a big deal, and a hell of a political operator. He hates Trump for destroying the party he attempted to make.
    Yea he seemed pretty sane when I met him at the 2016 RNC (Uber got delayed and he chatted with my group for about 15 minutes while he waited)

    That said, he really loves his gerrymandering job from 2010, basically bragged that the Dems couldn't win the House back until the census. Proved that one wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump offered it, and she turned it down. I get the vibe from her she is trying to hedge her bets for the post-Trump GOP. If she bucks him now, she will alienate the base, but if she sticks too close, she will go down with the ship. She is maintaining credible deniability right now.
    Man, that is a VERY good point/idea. I could see her having the charisma to rebuff the offer from Trump to replace Pence, because she could still come back in if Trump wins and the world starts to burn. However, the flip side, the rebuilding of the GOP if/when it implodes post Trump defeat, could be a VERY good place to rise up and take over.

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    https://twitter.com/cspanJeremy/stat...19158680772608

    A CSPAN social media specialist pointing out the massive difference in how each party handled their Roll Call of States this year -



    Republicans had a very white, very male, very unexcited group of dudes talk in front of a generic background with uncomfortable closeups.

    Democrats, meanwhile, brought diversity, their families, and home-state charm and pride to theirs.

    One is a vision of America of the future. The other is a vision of America's old, decaying past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s 3:30 am in Romania and there were a few bans earlier today.

    Edit: As a side note, I am not watching it... ESPN has a mock draft going... it’s the post Summerslam Raw and NBA playoffs... all screens busy... lol
    Raw went to shit. AEW > RAW
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    btw i'm not watching it either. though I didn't watch the Dem convention either.
    Neither did I... I watch the Hassan Piker recap afterwards... it gives me the youth perspective and he shows the full context...

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    Raw went to shit. AEW > RAW
    I follow it all... Kieth Lee debuted tonight... I want to see how Vince screws this up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    ROFL perfect timing. saw your post. turned the channel, catching it just in time then I can turn it off again.
    Oh good... I didn’t notice I fucked up the tense... Randy Orton? Okay... let’s see...
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    Only a organization as sick as the RNC can come up with such a production as the one going on right now. They are their own parody. Their messaging...effective.

    Jesus, if only the DNC had this energy. This is how pissed and energetic the DNC should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiklis View Post
    Yea he seemed pretty sane when I met him at the 2016 RNC (Uber got delayed and he chatted with my group for about 15 minutes while he waited)

    That said, he really loves his gerrymandering job from 2010, basically bragged that the Dems couldn't win the House back until the census. Proved that one wrong
    Not saying he is a saint, lol. That is all part of the "Hell of a political operator" thing. The whole of the Lincoln Project is made up of grifters and conmen that are mad that "Their" party got stolen from them. None of them are to be trusted or respected. But they are aimed at the right person right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Only a organization as sick as the RNC can come up with such a production as the one going on right now. They are their own parody. Their messaging...effective.

    Jesus, if only the DNC had this energy. This is how pissed and energetic the DNC should be.
    You're just looking at the paid performers - NO one gets in to that event who isn't a known quantity shriller. And keep in mind insanity has it's own energy.

    p.s. - still waiting for your response to what the Dems could be doing different...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Not saying he is a saint, lol. That is all part of the "Hell of a political operator" thing. The whole of the Lincoln Project is made up of grifters and conmen that are mad that "Their" party got stolen from them. None of them are to be trusted or respected. But they are aimed at the right person right now.

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    I'm aware, I just wanted to tell the story

    The comparison between the 2016 RNC and now is pretty mindblowing, I heard Tom Cotton speak twice and he actually seemed sane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You're just looking at the paid performers - NO one gets in to that event who isn't a known quantity shriller. And keep in mind insanity has it's own energy.

    p.s. - still waiting for your response to what the Dems could be doing different...
    I'm guessing PACOX wants 2012 DNC Ted Strickland speeches
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You're just looking at the paid performers - NO one gets in to that event who isn't a known quantity shriller. And keep in mind insanity has it's own energy.

    p.s. - still waiting for your response to what the Dems could be doing different...
    It could mean paying for better actors... democrats are not enthusiastic... the enthusiasm is 100% about Trump, be it to win or lose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Neither did I... I watch the Hassan Piker recap afterwards... it gives me the youth perspective and he shows the full context...



    I follow it all... Kieth Lee debuted tonight... I want to see how Vince screws this up...
    ROFL perfect timing. saw your post. turned the channel, catching it just in time then I can turn it off again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiklis View Post
    I'm aware, I just wanted to tell the story

    The comparison between the 2016 RNC and now is pretty mindblowing, I heard Tom Cotton speak twice and he actually seemed sane.
    In 2016 they were just boarding the Trump train, after being hesitant to leave the platform and jump on for months.

    They've been getting shitfaced on Trump juice for almost 4 years now, huffing coal fumes all along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You're just looking at the paid performers - NO one gets in to that event who isn't a known quantity shriller. And keep in mind insanity has it's own energy.

    p.s. - still waiting for your response to what the Dems could be doing different...
    That's the point. They are full of shit but great at it. They mastered grifting, solidifying a solid base with their garbage. Raw, uncensored political porn for people who can't name 5 US Presidents.

    Brilliant if it wasn't dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Not saying he is a saint, lol. That is all part of the "Hell of a political operator" thing. The whole of the Lincoln Project is made up of grifters and conmen that are mad that "Their" party got stolen from them. None of them are to be trusted or respected. But they are aimed at the right person right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    That's the point. They are full of shit but great at it. They mastered grifting, solidifying a solid base with their garbage. Raw, uncensored political porn for people who can't name 5 US Presidents.

    Brilliant if it wasn't dangerous.
    Which also requires decades of creating that base. Which is a dark road I don't think you, or many folks, want Democrats to go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Which also requires decades of creating that base. Which is a dark road I don't think you, or many folks, want Democrats to go down.
    Assuming their way is the only means to gain enthusiastic loyalty?

    Right now the DNC is made up of bunch of groups that sort of tolerate the party because there's no where else to go for them. One of the reasons why Democratic voter turnout is so shitty because you're dealing with an apathetic base that is lukewarm to the leaders of the party.

    The GOP has no problem with enthusiasm and turno.... fuck they got Herschel Walker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Assuming their way is the only means to gain enthusiastic loyalty?

    Right now the DNC is made up of bunch of groups that sort of tolerate the party because there's no where else to go for them. One of the reasons why Democratic voter turnout is so shitty because you're dealing with an apathetic base that is lukewarm to the leaders of the party.

    The GOP has no problem with enthusiasm and turno.... fuck they got Herschel Walker.

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    Oh no no no no. They are using a black man to weaponize Biden's political history. No shame.
    Ehem...

    As I said, when you've got a base primed for that it's easy to excite them. It helps when they have a narrow focus on a few issues rather than being a broad-tent party like the Democrats are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Assuming their way is the only means to gain enthusiastic loyalty?

    Right now the DNC is made up of bunch of groups that sort of tolerate the party because there's no where else to go for them. One of the reasons why Democratic voter turnout is so shitty because you're dealing with an apathetic base that is lukewarm to the leaders of the party.

    The GOP has no problem with enthusiasm and turno.... fuck they got Herschel Walker.
    Yeah but that sort of enthusiastic loyalty isn't a result of the GOP presenting a robust platform that is a recipie for good governance. It's a result of fearmongering, propaganda, hate and general conspiratorial bullshit.

    It represents the fundamental break between the two parties ideologically. As much as the GOP claims to stand for something, the reality is they don't, and they'll say whatever they need to in order to get more people to angrily jack off. The Democrats on the other hand often look like they don't stand for anything in specific because they're actively trying to figure out what people want, or how they need to adjust in order to get people on their side (even if they don't actually want to adjust very much).

    The GOP doesn't have loyalty, it has fanaticism. Brainless screaming and yelling without reason or coherence. The DNC doesn't have loyalty or fanaticism because it (mostly) relies on reason and coherence, which are subjects that people can question without being accused of being brainwashed by the deep state.
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