Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[infinitemeridian]

Well the RNC is for sure entertaining.

[PACOX]

Yeah but that sort of enthusiastic loyalty isn't a result of the GOP presenting a robust platform that is a recipie for good governance. It's a result of fearmongering, propaganda, hate and general conspiratorial bullshit.

It represents the fundamental break between the two parties ideologically. As much as the GOP claims to stand for something, the reality is they don't, and they'll say whatever they need to in order to get more people to angrily jack off. The Democrats on the other hand often look like they don't stand for anything in specific because they're actively trying to figure out what people want, or how they need to adjust in order to get people on their side (even if they don't actually want to adjust very much).

The GOP doesn't have loyalty, it has fanaticism. Brainless screaming and yelling without reason or coherence. The DNC doesn't have loyalty or fanaticism because it (mostly) relies on reason and coherence, which are subjects that people can question without being accused of being brainwashed by the deep state.

Yeah and the GOP has shaped the last 40 years of the country. Even when Democrats win they are often make more concessions to the GOP than the GOP would ever return.

[Sunseeker]

Yeah and the GOP has shaped the last 40 years of the country. Even when Democrats win they are often make more concessions to the GOP than the GOP would ever return.

And not in a positive way. Our international influence has declined. The middle class has shrunk. Our economy struggles as often as it doesn't. Purchasing power has dropped. Home ownership has dropped. Wages have stagnated. A select few have made billions while millions have fallen into poverty.

And that's with half the country being mindless fanatics who'll jump whenver their leaders command it.

You REALLY want that to be 100% of the country?

[PACOX]

And not in a positive way. Our international influence has declined. The middle class has shrunk. Our economy struggles as often as it doesn't. Purchasing power has dropped. Home ownership has dropped. Wages have stagnated. A select few have made billions while millions have fallen into poverty.

And that's with half the country being mindless fanatics who'll jump whenver their leaders command it.

You REALLY want that to be 100% of the country?

I want a party that's actually capable of countering the GOP, not just be the lesser evil.

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Kimberly Guilfoyle channeled her inner dictator.

[Kasierith]

I want a party that's actually capable of countering the GOP, not just be the lesser evil.

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Kimberly Guilfoyle channeled her inner dictator.

Streamer I'm watching it with had a little 14 point fascist checklist up. 12/14 hard yes, 2 maybe. It is actively terrifying that this is the face they're choosing to put on.

[Sunseeker]

I want a party that's actually capable of countering the GOP, not just be the lesser evil.

The DNC is capable of countering the GOP, the fact that they're literally elected almost every other time is a fairly good example of that. They counter insanity and fanaticism with reason and rationality. It's not as "exciting" sure but it's the only answer. You don't fight fanaticism with MORE fanaticism.

So figure out what you actually want the DNC to do other than be "more exciting". Because that's sort of a bullshit request that underscores a deep misunderstanding of what's actually going on.

[AntiFascistVoter]

CNN really grading the GOP on a curve here.

Bigots would have easily fit better on that chyron instead of "homeowners".

[Ursus]

Holy shit, Kimberly Guilfoyle's speech was cringeworthy as hell. Not just because of its content (which was batshit crazy, as expected), but her delivery. I've never seen someone sound so over-the-top with fake outrage. She sounded like a cartoonish supervillain.

[Edge-]

Streamer I'm watching it with had a little 14 point fascist checklist up. 12/14 hard yes, 2 maybe. It is actively terrifying that this is the face they're choosing to put on.

Day 1 alone would fill up most "Authoritarian/fascist" checklists that exist. I can't wait to see what horrors and nightmares the rest of the week brings.

Reminds me a lot of this - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/o...democracy.html

[Teriz]

This shit is embarrassing. This is like a bad movie depicting an over the top dictator and his followers. Like I can look at these speakers and they sound like a group of conmen and grifters.

[Good Hasbara]

Well the RNC is for sure entertaining.

I want to watch the dumpster fire but I feel like I need a brain enema just for tuning in.

[cubby]

Looks like Trump's miracle solution was faked - FDA Data Manipulated, Strong Doubts as to it Working on Coronavirus.

Looks like Shitstain-in-Chief lied again. Whoops!

[AntiFascistVoter]

Some where Sarah Palin is writing Kimberly Guilfoyle a big thank you. History is gonna forget about Palin now.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/polit...ity/index.html

Trump's idea to cut the payroll tax? Yeah, it'll bankrupt Social Security by 2023. Part of me almost wants it to happen because maybe the old racists will start wondering where their SSI checks are and start to slowly piece together that they've been fuckin had.

But it will cause too much suffering to actually want that.

Glad I've basically been planning and budgeting in the expectation that Social Security/Medicare will be bankrupt by the time I retire. Living frugally as hell isn't always the most fun, but at least I'll have savings and investments to fall back on after the programs I've spent decades contributing to end up falling apart without me seeing a penny in return.

[cubby]

That's the point. They are full of shit but great at it. They mastered grifting, solidifying a solid base with their garbage. Raw, uncensored political porn for people who can't name 5 US Presidents.

Brilliant if it wasn't dangerous.

Agreed - and terrifyingly amazing. It's interesting how the RNC/GOP keep their top people in paid jobs, even when they fall. Their support structure is enviable.

(do you do any foundation or non-profit work?)

[Kasierith]

I want to watch the dumpster fire but I feel like I need a brain enema just for tuning in.

Most of them are straight up grifters, setting up sound bites to sway people who have been checked out of politics. Imagine listening to D'Souza and Ben Shapiro talking about current events for a few hours.

One even giving straight up cult rhetoric, as in "did you have Charles Manson as your speech writer" levels of creepiness. If you study cult rhetoric, or guru rhetoric, that sort of radicalization of individuals by alienating any alternating viewpoints and establishing Trump as the sole arbiter of the truth was spot on.

Kimberly Guilfoyle on her own sounded like she was in try outs for a role as a nazi propagandist.

[Edge-]

The Republican National Convention kicked off Monday night with an anti-teachers union screed from a 28-year educator who also recently wrote an op-ed accusing U.S. schools of grooming children to be sexualized.

“If we as a society are so disturbed by the actions of Epstein, Miss Maxwell and an untold number of others,” Rebecca Friedrichs wrote in The Washington Times in July, referring to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and his criminally charged former partner Ghislaine Maxwell, “then why are we allowing America’s public schools to groom our children to be sexualized?”

The essence of Friedrichs’ argument is that sex education can “sexualize” children and lead to “heightened sexual activity and even abuse by predators like Epstein.”

While Friedrichs offers no empirical evidence to support this claim, naturally, she argues that unions are to blame.

“Leading this despicable charge are unions posing as teachers and the deceptively named Healthy Teen Network, a coalition of over 180 sexual and reproductive-health justice organizations,” Friedrichs wrote.

The modern Republican party, y'all.

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Kimberly Guilfoyle on her own sounded like she was in try outs for a role as a nazi propagandist.

Kimberly Goebbels?

[AntiFascistVoter]

For the morbidly curious.

Suggest watching as a lead-in to:
The Handmaiden's Tale
Lovecraft Country
a Wolfenstein playthrough



Watching her trash California ... is not really that surprising.

[cubby]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/polit...ity/index.html

Trump's idea to cut the payroll tax? Yeah, it'll bankrupt Social Security by 2023. Part of me almost wants it to happen because maybe the old racists will start wondering where their SSI checks are and start to slowly piece together that they've been fuckin had.

But it will cause too much suffering to actually want that.

Glad I've basically been planning and budgeting in the expectation that Social Security/Medicare will be bankrupt by the time I retire. Living frugally as hell isn't always the most fun, but at least I'll have savings and investments to fall back on after the programs I've spent decades contributing to end up falling apart without me seeing a penny in return.

My wife and I are in the same boat - with the added benefit of three kids to put through school. No way we're counting on ANY government programs for retirement.

[PACOX]

The DNC is capable of countering the GOP, the fact that they're literally elected almost every other time is a fairly good example of that. They counter insanity and fanaticism with reason and rationality. It's not as "exciting" sure but it's the only answer. You don't fight fanaticism with MORE fanaticism.

So figure out what you actually want the DNC to do other than be "more exciting". Because that's sort of a bullshit request that underscores a deep misunderstanding of what's actually going on.

The DNC only gets elected when things get dire, they pass legislation favorable to the GOP, GOP backstabs then, DNC promptly gets voted out of existence again. Last 40 years of the United States of America. We very much live in the age of Reagan, not the Carter, Clinton, or Obama. Hell you have Democrats who even praise Reagan.

You can keep talking fanaticism, it's still on the spectrum of loyalty. They don't have a problem with motivation and turnout. They beat one of the most qualified candidates in US history with a reality TV star.

The best the DNC has done of late was out the trash for the GOP once the GOP has gotten its use out of it.