Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Daedius]

So, your reaction to Bearnie Sanders not getting enough votes from democratic voters in the 2016 primary is... To vote for what he's absolutely AGAINST!?
That just doesn't make a lick of sense.

I found Hillary more repulsive than Trump. Simple as that.

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No, I propose their party ditched them. In all the ways that should matter, Trump isn't a Republican. The Republican party is no longer Republican, now that it has declared it has no official platform other than "whatever Trump thinks." Let's stop treating the situation we're in as liberal vs. conservative, and the actions and attitudes of Trump as politics as usual... It's not, and the Republican party is dead, replaced by a cult with literally no principals, just like its corrupt leader.

And therein lies the fault with the two party system.

[pathora44]

Stop with this Black and White bullshit. A lot of Republicans hate Trump -- so, what, you propose they ditch their party and go blue just because? Would be great if the US didn't have just a 2 party blue/red system... but here we are, with this retarded mentality of "with us or against us" notion...

When the Republican party has thrown the vast majority of it's weight behind Trump then yes it might be time to ditch the party, this is coming from an ex Republican. The party has bowed the knee to a wanna be king/dictator who disregards the rulings of the Supreme Court, who has stepped on over 200 years of checks and balances between the three heads of our government, who has spat in the face of allies we have had for close to a century, who has quite literally flushed down the drain over 70 years of soft power we had as the leader of the free world, and rubs elbows and openly praises dictators and murderers like Putin, Erdogan, and MBS. The Republican party has become the cult of Trump and your leaders have all gladly thrown away their principles and morals for a chance for power. So again maybe Republicans who look on in horror in all the shit Trump has done and the party has ow so gladly allowed and partaken in. Maybe they should take a stand and walk away from the party or you can just lower your head and fall in line with the other lemming cultist as Trump and the heads of the Republican party order you off the cliff.

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I found Hillary more repulsive than Trump. Simple as that.

And guess what? You were grossly, unequivocally, biggest failure of the millennium WRONG!

[RadasNoir]

Yes, because at this point I'm pretty convinced you're not going to be able to get rid of Trump in any other way.
The election results are going to be ignored by Trump and if there is no force involved nobody is going to be able to stop him.

It might very well be one of the last few possible ways to get rid of him, else you might be stuck with him forever.

The signs all point towards the fact that Trump wants to solidify himself as a dictator within the USA and that the Republican Party is prepared to make that happen. And don't imagine it can't happen... it happened for Putin, Erdogan, etc.

I assume you'll fly in from whatever country you're actually from, and lead the charge into the White House yourself?

[crejack]

Yes, because at this point I'm pretty convinced you're not going to be able to get rid of Trump in any other way.
The election results are going to be ignored by Trump and if there is no force involved nobody is going to be able to stop him.

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It might very well be one of the last few possible ways to get rid of him, else you might be stuck with him forever.

The signs all point towards the fact that Trump wants to solidify himself as a dictator within the USA and that the Republican Party is prepared to make that happen. And don't imagine it can't happen... it happened for Putin, Erdogan, etc.

Nah it's just PR. Trump is a brand and conman. He can't be seen as a loser, so he's masking up the eventual loss as being "cheated." Trump will just go to Florida when he loses and cry on twitter.

[RadasNoir]

Nah it's just PR. Trump is a brand and conman. He can't be seen as a loser, so he's masking up the eventual loss as being "cheated." Trump will just go to Florida when he loses and cry on twitter.

Yeah, I'm still hoping this might end up being what happens. In addition to being a conman, we've already seen that he's a coward.

If the Democratic Party has issues finding competent leadership and I mean they would be entirely incompetent if they didn't prepare for this yet by now, then sure, once the lockdown is over I'll fly back to my domicile in Florida and offer my advice and crisis management skills if they would so require.

It's not quite leading the charge, but I suppose you'd be somewhat less of an armchair revolutionary if you did actually come here to help where you could, should things actually turn sour.

[Pannonian]

Oh man, all these trumpkins that are totally not trumpkins justifying their vote for Tump. You could not make this shit up.

I mean i can understand, if i think my candidate is not progressive enough, i would also vote for the racist, misogynist facist. Makes total sense. Or not.

You can justify all you want, but for the rest of us you'll be forever the enablers of Trump. Maybe even worse than "real" cultists, as they at least believe in something.

[DKjaigen]

Oh man, all these trumpkins that are totally not trumpkins justifying their vote for Tump. You could not make this shit up.

I mean i can understand, if i think my candidate is not progressive enough, i would also vote for the racist, misogynist facist. Makes total sense. Or not.

You can justify all you want, but for the rest of us you'll be forever the enablers of Trump. Maybe even worse than "real" cultists, as they at least believe in something.

I dont really care what marxist think. november you will be sidelined and peace and prosperity will be restored.

[Felya]

I dont really care what marxist think. november you will be sidelined and peace and prosperity will be restored.

Could you explain how?

Oh and I bet not only do you care what marxist think, your opinion is 100% based on fear of marxist.

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If the Democratic Party has issues finding competent leadership and I mean they would be entirely incompetent if they didn't prepare for this yet by now, then sure, once the lockdown is over I'll fly back to my domicile in Florida and offer my advice and crisis management skills if they would so require.

In your leadership, what is your plan to deal with what you called a top 4 problem with US... Islam turning American youth against western values?

[Pannonian]

I dont really care what marxist think. november you will be sidelined and peace and prosperity will be restored.

Well, i haven't identified myself with that ideology for 15 years now, but still back then: Trotzkist please. Learn your insults.

[Felya]

Well, i haven't identified myself with that ideology for 15 years now, but still back then: Trotzkist please. Learn your insults.

I like that he admits that who ever is the current president, fucked up so royally, that peace and prosperity needs to be restored. We went from ‘lock her up’ to needing to ‘restoring peace and prosperity’... Who ever is that dastardly villain, I hope he gets some come up ins...

[Pannonian]

I like that he admits that who ever is the current president, fucked up so royally, that peace and prosperity needs to be restored. We went from ‘lock her up’ to needing to ‘restoring peace and prosperity’... Who ever is that dastardly villain, I hope he gets some come up ins...

I cannot imagine how on the "the country needs to restore peace and prosperty" is an argument to elect the guy who has been in charge the past 4 years.

I mean, by now there are just 2 possibilities: Either they're trolls, or they're really, really stupid.

[Felya]

I cannot imagine how on the "the country needs to restore peace and prosperty" is an argument to elect the guy who has been in charge the past 4 years.

I mean, by now there are just 2 possibilities: Either they're trolls, or they're really, really stupid.

They are running the same campaign as 2016... You can’t chant “12 more years” to troll the libs, while also saying you will “restore peace and prosperity”. That’s illogical... it makes 0 sense...

Edit: For the next 4 years Trump will restore peace and prosperity, by whining about liberals even more than before. If you think liberals are crying now, wait until he defaults on US debt.

[Machismo]

Find it cute you feel the urge to "insult" to make yourself feel better to begin with. That's just how pathetic a lot of people see the Democrats today tbh, especially the tantrum tossing youth.

And for the record, I was going with Dems prior to 2016 for reasons I already stated earlier.

Once again, swearing you will support him, no matter what... is proving my point for me. Feel free to cling to him even tighter.

[DKjaigen]

I like that he admits that who ever is the current president, fucked up so royally, that peace and prosperity needs to be restored. We went from ‘lock her up’ to needing to ‘restoring peace and prosperity’... Who ever is that dastardly villain, I hope he gets some come up ins...

Every single problem seems to emerge from the democratic run states and cities. We only need to remove the democratic cancer and all will be well. But unlike you we are decent people that simply vote their opponents out of power.

[Felya]

Every single problem seems to emerge from the democratic run states and cities. We only need to remove the democratic cancer and all will be well. But unlike you we are decent people that simply vote their opponents out of power.

How are you planing to remove this cancer of American citizens you disagree with? Helicopters or camps? lol

[Daelak]

I found Hillary more repulsive than Trump. Simple as that.

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And therein lies the fault with the two party system.

This is just more false equivalence, both sides'ing by conservatives. It shows how effective conservative propaganda is at even deluding people.

Just to give you "progressives" who think abstaining from voting or protest voting for 3rd party will actually bring reformation; it won't. You have to reform a party from within. Bernie Sanders knows that, and even he is stating to his supporters to vote for the democratic nominee.

Its a very simple series of events that will occur if Trump wins, and a viable third party that gets to participate in the legislative process is not it.

[Machismo]

Which is exactly what got us a President Trump in the first place and keeping him within striking distance in swing states like Minnesota.

Well, it was shown that Bernie voters are unreliable. Why should the Democratic Party push to pander to people who don't show up to vote? You and all the other "totally a progressive" people on this site prove them right, every single day.

This reminds me of when I was working in a small restaurant as a kid. The local townspeople who almost never came in, always whined that the menu didn't have this, or didn't have that. They wanted more fancy items, they wanted more cheap items, and they swore they'd totally come in more often if we made all those changes. So, we did... and those same people simply found more to bitch about. They didn't come in more often, because that "Overton Window" was only so big for that small town.

Politics are not really any different. It's a list of priorities, and everyone is different on exactly what they want, and what they are willing to accept if they do not get their top item. Many, like the Bernie supporters will simply refuse to vote, if they don't get Bernie himself, because he is their only priority. Many others want Medicare For All, and will not vote, if they do not vote for someone get that item. t's funny, people have often chided libertarians for being ideological purists, and that's true. But, at the end of the day, they seem much more moderate and open than the base of either party.

[Daelak]

I dont really care what marxist think. november you will be sidelined and peace and prosperity will be restored.

We are still months/years away from having a vaccine that would possibly bring a semblance of normalcy back.

Protests and riots are occurring because governments are slow to reform law enforcement policies and minority populations, with the help of technology, are gaining more enfranchisement from a system that was created to keep them silenced and incarcerated.

[DKjaigen]

I cannot imagine how on the "the country needs to restore peace and prosperity" is an argument to elect the guy who has been in charge the past 4 years.

I mean, by now there are just 2 possibilities: Either they're trolls, or they're really, really stupid.

Unfortunately there are corrupt and incompetent subversive movements that have opposed the working class of America. They are anti-democratic and anti humanism, and they are called democrats, Marxist, antifa and blm . By removing democrats from power by voting and proscuting the criminal elements of BLM and antifa peace and prosperity can return.

[Felya]

Which is exactly what got us a President Trump in the first place and keeping him within striking distance in swing states like Minnesota.

Than why is Trump running, as Biden being an extremist liberal, as pretty much his only policy? Why do you think conservative Democrats got us Trump, while Trump’s campaign believes representing Biden as an extremist, is a road to victory?

Do you think Trump is wrong to focus on Biden, by pointing at AOC, Bernie and protestors, to claim Biden is just like them?