1. #10181
    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    How droll, making it so black and white. Like I said, I'd vote Republicans over Dems any day. It's just unfortunate it's Trump...
    If you are voting for Trump, you are a Trumper, period. It doesn't matter how you rationalize it.

    It's like that kid who ate a worm back in the 2nd grade. It doesn't matter if he only did it because someone paid him 50 cents, he's always going to be known as that kid who ate a worm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    That was live.
    I was too poor to ever do that much coke. But I've been to really fancy parties where it flowed. Dude is marching in the skies with the Peruvian cavalry on the flakiest flake, or something equally godlike.

    In Gen Xer lingo, he was riding the White Pony.

    Back in the aughts, Friends of the Diaper Don saw Jr doing copious amounts of cocaine on Russian hookers boobs at Cippriani Upstairs.
    Hmm, I am more disturbed by the claim he would pass out on strangers beds, then piss himself on said bed.

    If someone I don't know pisses on my bed, that person is going to get their ass beat so badly the next bed they piss is going to be a hospital bed. What sort of pansies go to the University of Pennsylvania that he survived long enough to do that more then once?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    If you are voting for Trump, you are a Trumper, period. It doesn't matter how you rationalize it.

    It's like that kid who ate a worm back in the 2nd grade. It doesn't matter if he only did it because someone paid him 50 cents, he's always going to be known as that kid who ate a worm.
    and this idea that the GOP isn't the fascist party even without Trump is a joke.

  4. #10184
    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    And half of the deaths are in California and NYC. Its like the democrat mayors and governors have not been doing a good job with covid at all

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    I will still laugh at you with your doom and gloom.
    List the things that trump has done that you think is positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    I've been told that mask mandates or quarantine orders for example would be unconstitutional in the USA and struck down before the Supreme Court.
    That's false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Can the federal government in the USA actually enforce the same laws that other modern nations enforced?

    I've been told that mask mandates or quarantine orders for example would be unconstitutional in the USA and struck down before the Supreme Court.

    If that is true then... yeah, Biden wouldn't be able to do much either, would he?
    Yes the federal government can make us wear masks.
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  7. #10187
    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Naw, you're just projecting your own bull shit. It's all you do really. You cant add to a conversation in any meaningful fashion.



    Biden is way ahead of Trump in terms of covid-19 planning.
    A national mask mandate.
    Using the war powers act to secure masks and other PPE, instead of hiding/hoarding it.
    Staying on the obama plan for ventilators, instead of overpaying $550,000 for one.
    Masks? do you have the proper mask discpline to make it work? i doubt it. ventilators? are the IC´s basically empty at this point?
    So its not that impressive.

  8. #10188
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Yes the federal government can make us wear masks.
    At very least having the federal government giving a consistent message and guidelines has to be helpful. Having one that says one thing and then hours later undercuts it for months just means nobody knows what to do so its every man for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Yes the federal government can make us wear masks.
    Anyone else picking up the irony here.

    Posters claiming that "Dems are doing it all wrong", don't "know how to wield power" .... Same posters have no clue how power works in the US.
    I mean they already burnt down all their credibility posts ago. But it's still silly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Anyone else picking up the irony here.

    Posters claiming that "Dems are doing it all wrong", don't "know how to wield power" .... Same posters have no clue how power works in the US.
    I mean they already burnt down all their credibility posts ago. But it's still silly.


    If only students of history would look up how seat belts became a thing.
    Also irony from another thread where the same poster has no clue why changing their name from a notoriously known shitposter and bad faith actor has any relevance to their new name that not many may realize was changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    And half of the deaths are in California and NYC. Its like the democrat mayors and governors have not been doing a good job with covid at all

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    I will still laugh at you with your doom and gloom.
    It like you don't understand populations and density. The two most populous states have the most deaths. Shocking. Typical from you though.

  11. #10191
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    You do realize that this is extremely biased and just pure opinion, right? I also don't understand how this at all is relevant to what is being discussed here?

    Do you feel that this is somehow relevant to be brought up in this discussion? To me it all seems a bit childish and tribalist.

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    But also, if this would get to the current Supreme Court... do you think they would uphold it?
    Not biased at all. Anyone can take a browse through your posting history to know. Hell shit you've said in recent days is more than enough.

    Pointing out bad faith actors only seems childish to those acting in bad faith. So think of it what you will.

  12. #10192
    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Of all Trump's cabinet, there are really only two I consider actually dangerous as people. Barr and Pompeo. The rest are destructive goons, that just wreck their little corner of government. Barr is different, he is an incredibly destructive and cunning minion, he is dangerous because he makes Trump much more dangerous by association, but he doesn't seem to have a clear ambitious agenda of his own.

    But Pompeo is the truly terrifying one. He is far smarter then Trump, far more ambitious, and not the slightest more moral. His attacks on America are calculated and effective, and incredibly destructive. The long term damage he has done to America already is easily on par with Trump, and his future potential is staggering. The reason this is relevant to this thread is because of his role in the RNC this week. It is terrifying, but he is going to get away with it.

    Pompeo will be a keynote speaker. As the current SecState. From Jerusalem. The former is a danger to democracy, the later is peak Christian Nationalism. This isn't an example of sloppy government, this is a move that will be wildly supported by his base, and gives a clear example of the sort of power move that is both possible, and sustainable. I do not believe Trump's brand of totalitarianism can last in this country. Trump is too stupid and chaotic. But Pompeo's version of totalitarianism can.

    The idea of Jordan or Carlson running in 2024 doesn't scare me. The idea of Pompeo/Haley running in 2024 scares the crap out of me. That would be the doom of this nation.
    This is why only a landslide will do this year. Trump supporters will be just switching who they follow should Biden become President. And they will continue to be completely angry about just about everything.

    This also means that non Trump supporters can not just relax once the election is over.

    Step 1: Remove Trump from office.
    Step 2: Defeat his supporters when they gravitate to someone worse.

    Step 2 will be much harder than Step 1.

  13. #10193
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    What did I say here on this page that required you to point out that I'm supposedly, in your biased opinion, a bad faith actor?
    Same reason you'd point out a pool of water on the sidewalk to passersby.

    I have a better analogy than this but I can't use it apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Masks? do you have the proper mask discpline to make it work? i doubt it. ventilators? are the IC´s basically empty at this point?
    So its not that impressive.
    Honestly I find it hard to take anything you say with any sort of merit since you blatantly lied about other countries not having mail in voting.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    What did I say here on this page that required you to point out that I'm supposedly, in your biased opinion, a bad faith actor?

    I was genuinely inquisitive about whether or not the federal government even had the authority to enforce mask or quarantine mandates.

    And even if it does, would it hold up before today's Supreme Court?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    I just so happened to be talking to someone else at the same time, in another channel, who was claiming it would never hold up in the Supreme Court.
    And they are wrong, as many people have already pointed out. Hopefully this helps you understand the reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Look another nostradamus. If i voted for Trump in 2016 just to see America burn to the ground i would have been bitterly disappointed by now.
    Then you haven't been paying attention. Trump has done so much structural damage to the US that it will take a long time to rebuild. And our worldwide reputation is tattered beyond repair. If you missed it, over 180,000 people have died from Covid, and estimates that this number is underestimated by 10-30%.

    This is like one 9/11 a week for a year. Well worse than that. More deaths, and a LOT more economic damage.

    You must have missed the RNC yesterday. Far more anger and hatred between different groups of people in the US than anytime since about the Civil War.

    We have record high stock prices while in the beginning of a recession. This is NOT sustainable. We have a President that lies daily in his tweets. This is NOT sustainable. In Congress the two sides are enemies rather than being on the same side. This is also NOT sustainable.

    Destroying something as huge as the US takes a while. Trump is working as hard and as fast as he can to get the job done before he leaves office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Isn't the current Supreme Court rather conservative and very Trump / GOP-biased?
    They are conservative leaning but so far they haven't been rubber stamping for Trump. If they ruled mask enforcement was unconstitutional it would be transparently political and throw out decades of precedents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    I just so happened to be talking to someone else at the same time, in another channel, who was claiming it would never hold up in the Supreme Court.
    Whomever is coaching you in this other channel, isnt doing you any favors.

    Also, I wouldnt go to the Tim Pool onlyfans discord for legal advice. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Which is exactly what got us a President Trump in the first place and keeping him within striking distance in swing states like Minnesota.
    No, it's not. I'm sick enough of this lie to respond to someone who doubled down when he got caught flat out not knowing what the word electorate meant (no shame in that unless you're too chicken shit to just cop to it), so I have no illusion that presenting you with facts will get you to openly admit ANY mistake. If Trump had been running against a man, he wouldn't have even gotten his affirmative action EC "win." It wasn't because Clinton wasn't progressive enough or didn't cater to progressives, or else those votes would have gone to 3rd party progressive candidates. Anyone who claims to be a progressive who votes for Trump is--as we keep noting in this thread--a Trump supporter.
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