Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[downnola]

Based on what they ( and myself ) want for the country, it will.

So you enjoy their fearmongering tactics then? I look outside my window and I don't see a country ravaged by the liberals, I see a country being looted dry by a President that only drives a wedge in this country and hasn't once tried to unite it. I see an administration with more indictments than the mafia while Wall Street makes money hand over fist. Meanwhile, everyone else is losing their job and dying to a virus. What could you possibly want for this country that this administration is actually doing?

Join the Democrats then.

Way ahead of you there, bubs.

[Ghostpanther]

So you enjoy their fearmongering tactics then? I look outside my window and I don't see a country ravaged by the liberals, I see a country being looted dry by a President that only drives a wedge in this country and hasn't once tried to unite it. I see an administration with more indictments than the mafia while Wall Street makes money hand over fist. Meanwhile, everyone else is losing their job and dying to a virus. What could you possibly want for this country that this administration is actually doing?



Way ahead of you there, bubs.

Good.

The Republican and Democrat parties as we have known them in the past, are gone.

[downnola]

Good.

The Republican and Democrat parties as we have known them in the past, are gone.

You didn't answer my question. What could you possibly want for this country that this administration is actually doing? I'm seriously curious what you think this administration is doing to help this country as a whole, not just the uber-wealthy.

[Ghostpanther]

You didn't answer my question. What could you possibly want for this country that this administration is actually doing? I'm seriously curious what you think this administration is doing to help this country as a whole, not just the uber-wealthy.

I do not have to answer it. But all you need to do is compare the two policies of each candidate and you will have your answer. If you do not think Trump's overall policies ( apart from his personality ) are better for the country, then nothing I will say will change your mind. If you think Biden's are better, then the choice should be clear.

[Sunseeker]

I do not have to answer it.

Of course you don't. But it's rather childish on your end to crow about how great Trump is but be unwilling to actually identify any of that greatness.

It leads to the conclusion that you really can't.

Of course, childishness if exactly what we all expect from Trump supporters. So no big surprise.

[Captain N]

I do not have to answer it. But all you need to do is compare the two policies of each candidate and you will have your answer. If you do not think Trump's overall policies ( apart from his personality ) are better for the country, then nothing I will say will change your mind. If you think Biden's are better, then the choice should be clear.

Interesting choice of words considering the GOP has no policy platform this election other than blindly following Trump. Blind obedience is considered a policy now? Strange times we live in.

[Kryctos]

I do not have to answer it. But all you need to do is compare the two policies of each candidate and you will have your answer. If you do not think Trump's overall policies ( apart from his personality ) are better for the country, then nothing I will say will change your mind. If you think Biden's are better, then the choice should be clear.

Name 1.

His trade war with china we are paying for.
His travel restrictions on Cuba only hurts the people with family there making it mor expensive to travel there by limiting points of entry.
Corona virus - 180k dead
Payroll tax deferral - benefits 0 people who work for a living.
Health care -increased premiums on everyone

[unfilteredJW]

I do not have to answer it. But all you need to do is compare the two policies of each candidate and you will have your answer. If you do not think Trump's overall policies ( apart from his personality ) are better for the country, then nothing I will say will change your mind. If you think Biden's are better, then the choice should be clear.

Goose step harder.

[Ghostpanther]

Of course you don't. But it's rather childish on your end to crow about how great Trump is but be unwilling to actually identify any of that greatness.

It leads to the conclusion that you really can't.

Of course, childishness if exactly what we all expect from Trump supporters. So no big surprise.

No big surprise the Trump haters resort to insults

And keep in mind, I do not care what anyone on here thinks of me. Not like anyone on here will have any impact on my life. Sorry, but you guys do not carry near as much influence as you might think. Maybe some need to have that emotional support they feel from others. But no one should ever put that much importance on a internet forum.

[downnola]

I do not have to answer it.

If that's the first reaction to a legitimate question that popped into your head then clearly you're not even open to the possibility that you may be wrong. That's fine, this will be my last attempt to ever engage you in an honest discussion from here on out.

But all you need to do is compare the two policies of each candidate and you will have your answer. If you do not think Trump's overall policies ( apart from his personality ) are better for the country, then nothing I will say will change your mind. If you think Biden's are better, then the choice should be clear.

Well the tax cuts he pushed for accomplished none of the objectives that it was supposed to meet and the trade war with China hasn't saved or created any jobs or helped the economy in any way. Healthcare is still an absolute mess and the economy is in shambles (aside from Wall St, which has no relationship to the reality of 16 million unemployed apparently). He has no real plan to deal with covid aside from close your eyes and it isn't there.

Discussing policies isn't in Trump's favor, even by Republican standards. There's a reason he's trying to paint Biden as a far leftist that wants to destroy the country. Focusing on the merits of his policies would reveal his incompetence.

[wunksta]

No big surprise the Trump haters resort to insults

Trump has insulted most everyone that disagreed with him.

[Ghostpanther]

Name 1.

His trade war with china we are paying for.
His travel restrictions on Cuba only hurts the people with family there making it mor expensive to travel there by limiting points of entry.
Corona virus - 180k dead
Payroll tax deferral - benefits 0 people who work for a living.
Health care -increased premiums on everyone

Improvement of Veteran care and I should know, I use my local VA clinic as my health care source.

China needed to be dealt with.
The travel restrictions where done in a effort to stop the spread of the virus.
Not his fault.
I have close to 20% lower taxes withheld each month from the new tax law and I am considered to be in the middle class wage range. Retired and of course, no kids. But I should still count. :P
Payroll tax deferral no benefits? Not having to pay that tax is and having extra money when you might need it is bad?
My health care premiums have actually gone down. In 2018, was the first time ever, my premium went down.

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If that's the first reaction to a legitimate question that popped into your head then clearly you're not even open to the possibility that you may be wrong. That's fine, this will be my last attempt to ever engage you in an honest discussion from here on out.

Which is fine by me. I am not one to back away from using the ignore also.

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Trump has insulted most everyone that disagreed with him.

I agree he has with some. I do not approve of all of his actions. Esp. when it comes to his personality.

[Ursus]

Which is fine by me. I am not one to back away from using the ignore also.

I've noticed that you use ignore on anyone who asks you a question you don't want to answer, under the guise that they insulted you and hurt your feelings. That is pathetic.

[Thekri]

I've noticed that you use ignore on anyone who asks you a question you don't want to answer, under the guise that they insulted you and hurt your feelings. That is pathetic.

The bubble must be maintained! I am pretty sure he has had me on ignore since I called him out about two years ago.

It is important to note that it takes effort to inoculate from reality to that extent. It doesn't just happen, you have to actively work at it.

[Blur4stuff]

While some Trump supporters are 100% mentally gone and actually believe he's done a good job, we also see evidence that some are clearly aware of how shitty he is but still want their team to win. Because this is all just a sport and who cares how much damage is done by Trump's incompetence and greed, right? Can't let those liberals win even if it means abandoning democracy and embracing fascism.

Anyways, last night's speeches were again full of lies and bullshit with some lawbreaking sprinkled on top. I suppose we should just expect the last two nights to be more of the same while providing zero detailed solutions for any current problem.

[Orange Joe]

I've noticed that you use ignore on anyone who asks you a question you don't want to answer, under the guise that they insulted you and hurt your feelings. That is pathetic.

I've been on his ignore for years now. Ever since I showed his hypocrisy to him he wasn't able to handle it.

[draynay]

Can't be many people left he even talks to, sure posts a lot for somebody unwilling to engage in discussion.

[Machismo]

People are often pointlessly rude on this board though.

That's what happens when people get caught lying, being disingenuous, and pushing false narratives. Do you expect people to be nice when you lie to them?

[downnola]

People are often pointlessly rude on this board though.

Being gaslit and mercilessly trolled for nine years straight tends to have that effect on people.

[Belize]

People are often pointlessly rude on this board though.

Asking questions, and then pointing out someone's inability to answer them isn't being rude.