Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-would-be-used

So the people used as props during the naturalization ceremony last night? Yeah, they were actually props.

Two women who were featured in a video of a naturalization ceremony shown at the Republican National Convention (RNC) Tuesday night said they did not know it would be aired at the political event.

Sudha Narayanan and Neimat Awadelseid told The Wall Street Journal Wednesday they didn’t mind that they were featured, but said they had not been aware it would be aired at the convention. They also told the newspaper they didn’t know until minutes before the ceremony, which was held at the White House, that President Trump would attend.

Awadelseid, a Sudanese immigrant and substitute teacher, told the Journal she remembers signing a media release form, but does not remember being told about the GOP convention.

They knew they would be granted their citizenships at the White House, but not that they'd be used as cynical political props by a racist president.

[Themius]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-would-be-used

So the people used as props during the naturalization ceremony last night? Yeah, they were actually props.



They knew they would be granted their citizenships at the White House, but not that they'd be used as cynical political props by a racist president.

That seems in line with the racism. "Give me some brown people to use as props"

[Edge-]

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/25/90595...nsider-trading

Jack Brewer, a member of Black Voices for Trump who is scheduled to speak at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday, was charged with insider trading by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission earlier this month.

Brewer is a former NFL player who went on to work in financial services. The SEC alleges he sold 100,000 shares in a penny stock because he had inside information that the company's share price was likely to drop. The charges, filed Aug. 6, are civil — not criminal. The SEC is seeking financial penalties, a return of "all ill-gotten gains he received directly or indirectly" and a permanent ban on Brewer "from participating in any offering of a penny stock."

When one of your speakers, and one of your few speakers of color, is yet another grifter and is currently facing insider trading charges.

[PACOX]

No one does identity politics like the RNC.

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THE RNC IS OUT HERE HAVING WHEELCHAIR BOUND PEOPLE STAND UP!

Hollywood writers hate them.

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And now now a blind Chinese immigrant to diss China.

Theres somebody at home in a MAGA Hat eating all these antics up.

[Blur4stuff]

lie after lie after lie after... with some bullshit antics tossed in for good measure

meanwhile we still have no fucking clue what a second Trump administration would actually do to solve any of the issues we face

[Gestopft]

RNC reminding us of the last time they had morals and principles: 1860’s when they freed the slaves.

[Benggaul]

The Love Guru’s biggest failing was not waiting for a script. They went ahead during the writer’s strike and improved big chunks. Which caused a disjointed mess as the people improving weren’t aware of what happened in the other scenes. Not really relevant to the topic, but there you have it. Actually, maybe it is relevant. Look at Trump’s admin flailing around with no plan...

OT, but did you mean "improvising"?

I would apologize for further derailing the thread but there's obviously nothing better going on at the moment.

[Gestopft]

Pence: “Joe Biden will be a Trojan horse for the radical left”
The Radical Left: “Yeah, if only”

[PACOX]

Pence: “Joe Biden will be a Trojan horse for the radical left”
The Radical Left: “Yeah, if only”

The RNC recognizes progressives more than the Dems

[D Luniz]

Hilarious to be told "You dont know your history" and the whole time Im wondering, did he ever learn about the Flood of 1927, and the events from it, and the countless ones afterward that were why we abandoned the GOP.

[beanman12345]

No one does identity politics like the RNC.

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THE RNC IS OUT HERE HAVING WHEELCHAIR BOUND PEOPLE STAND UP!

Hollywood writers hate them.

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And now now a blind Chinese immigrant to diss China.

Theres somebody at home in a MAGA Hat eating all these antics up.

IIRC that guy in the wheelchair went to the eagles nest and said it was on his bucket list or some nonsense. Think I read about him a couple weeks ago.

[Zan15]

Are you sure you are disappointed? lol!

So far, it is has been a awesome convention. Some very powerful speeches. The Attorney General Of Kentucky, Daniel Cameron, I think is going to have a bright future in politics. He made a excellent speech.

The reaction of the Trump haters and Democrats, can be used as a indication of how effective it has been.

LOL i guess the DNC was way beyond effective to the point that our President thinks Biden jucied and should be drug tested.

this is your party. shame.

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This is disingenuous doublespeak, or you're actually ignorant on how massive programs like SS are funded. They are funded by taxpayer contributions, and drawn on by taxpayers once they retire. It is designed, and supposed to be, self-funding.

Now, the boomer generation is A) a much larger generation than most other generations, which is literally why they're called the Boom Generation, and B) all held steady jobs and 40-50 year careers in which they contributed to SSI, while C) their parents, large chunks of which were decimated by two World Wars and the Great Depression didn't take much out of the pot.

Now, regular contributions to SSI by Milennials and Gen Z are down because of the gig economy, a lot of at-will, part-time, underemployed work, etc. At the same time, the largest generation is retiring and will be withdrawing from SSI's pot. This has literally been a looming crisis for 20 years.

Now, granted, it's not helped by regulatory funding mechanisms. It would be nice if money could just be slashed from, say, the military, and put into SSI, but usually Republicans (and even Dems) like to put that money to tax cuts (though the tax cuts tend to go to radically different portions of the population). Which would be fine if people saved that money to supplement their (now diminished) retirement, but people never do that with their tax cuts, because we live in the most consumerist, self-absorbed, greedy civilization that has yet walked the earth.

There's all sorts of funding mechanisms at play here. But generally, a program has to be self-solvent. "Utilities" like public education, actual utilities, infrastructure, etc, are funded by income tax. SS/Medicare is funded by separate taxes levied specifically for those programs.

you left out the fact that baby boomers and their parents never contributed enough into SS and expected their kids and grandkids to pay the bill.

Reagan and republicans stopped the incremental tax increases on payroll taxes that had always kept SS in the black. There was 35 incremental tax increases that were the equlivelent of 6-30 dollars a year for the average worker. Baby boomers and their parents got into power and put an end to any chance those increases were going to happen again.

@Arch-Angel of Riots

There should be benefit cuts, sorry but they did not pay enough into the system. Democrats benefit cuts are a lot better than Republicans wanting to abolish the whole system.

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Improvement of Veteran care and I should know, I use my local VA clinic as my health care source.

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What did he specifically do to your socialist healthcare, except take credit for something Obama did?

China needed to be dealt with.

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Great so what's the policy? Just saying something needs to be done?
So far he is about 0-11 on China actions

The travel restrictions where done in a effort to stop the spread of the virus.
Not his fault.

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HAHAHA, revisionist history since his travel restrictions were a cluster fuck

"not his fault" is the biggest bunch of bullshit you have ever said and you should be embarrassed by it to fall for those talking points. HE'S THE FUCKING PRESIDENT. you are so twisted in a knot you keep bumbling over yourself and the new talking points of the week.

He has even said so himself:

“Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.” - Trump
"Everything starts with you. Realize that you're in charge. Whatever happens, you're responsible." - Trump


He Even blamed a Gov. for the deaths because he was the leader of NY. Wait...what kind of logic is that?

I have close to 20% lower taxes withheld each month from the new tax law and I am considered to be in the middle class wage range. Retired and of course, no kids. But I should still count. :P
Payroll tax deferral no benefits? Not having to pay that tax is and having extra money when you might need it is bad?

Great you just caused everyone else to have to pay your bills. And you claim to be anti-socialist.
i also call bullshit on your 20% claim. Adjust that for how much less you are getting back at the end of the year and let us know the low single digit it really is.

its great you have extra money now when you need it vs when in 2025-2030 when you still need it, SS will be cut to 74% of normal benefits.
Bet you will be still thanking Trump as you wait on soup lines.

My health care premiums have actually gone down. In 2018, was the first time ever, my premium went down.

and what happened in 2019 and 2020?
Exactly what did Trump do to reduce your premiums in 2018. Don't worry we'll wait for you to figure that one out, it will be a long time.

[Blur4stuff]

What laundry list of substances would show up in a Trump drug test? Much like his promise to release his taxes, there's no fucking way he would actually take a real drug test and release the genuine results.

[Zan15]

LOL wow did Sen. Paul sell out.....

damn not a single remark on the deficit or spending...

[Benggaul]

What laundry list of substances would show up in a Trump drug test? Much like his promise to release his taxes, there's no fucking way he would actually take a real drug test and release the genuine results.

He would get someone else to take it for him, as usual.

[Edge-]

So I guess Trump made a crippled guy stand for the country tonight? This sure seems like a fuckin reality TV show production to me.

In other news - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ath-rnc-speech

Mike Pence on the federal officer killed in Oakland, CA during the protests a few months ago -

"He was shot and killed during the riots in Oakland, California," Pence said. "Dave's heroism is emblematic of the heroes that serve in blue every day."

He's technically right! But the problem is, he's intentionally fucking leaving out the important context that he was murdered by a far right extremist boogaloo boi. He's connecting him to the riots to imply his death was the responsibility of proters/rioters. And that's a fuckin lie by omission and he fuckin knows it.

Man, I missed when sitting Vice Presidents didn't knowingly lie to politicize the tragic death of a federal officer.

[Milchshake]

Whelp, the media is failing in 2020 just like they did in 2016.
CNN was mostly praising Pence for lying to everyone's face. They need to fire everyone except for Daniel Dale.
And fling Cillizza into the sun.

Damn Cooper too. even at the end of that clip he manages to slip in some bullshit about republicans working on healthcare behind the scenes... which we know from the whole last 10 years to be a fucking lie.

The whole message of the RNC has been, “We’re going to show you how much we own the press by putting on the worst event possible and daring them to praise it, which they will”

[Felya]

So did the Ukraine president lie? He said he didn't feel blackmailed.

Or is it still tied to Trump's abuse of power and something the Ukraine government can't afford to speak out against over fear of retaliation?

Something that certainly wasn't done at all when the most powerful man on earth had an on going affair with an intern. 100% different in every single way. #MeToo

Did you just compare Clinton’s affair, to Trump’s sending his derpstate squad to Ukraine, to pressure not for information... but, to claim starting an investigation, when Ukraine had no reason to start one? Are you serious? Why not compare it to Trump blocking DNA release, in his rape trial, without getting impeached? WTF?

I need you to explain how the above post is not an irrational defense of Trump.

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Whelp, the media is failing in 2020 just like they did in 2016.

People ignore that part of bitching that you are a victim... liberals spread for QQ... and the only thing Trump does more than corruption, it’s QQ...

[Draco-Onis]

What laundry list of substances would show up in a Trump drug test? Much like his promise to release his taxes, there's no fucking way he would actually take a real drug test and release the genuine results.

I am sure Trump would take the test just like he has taken crucial tests his entire life have someone else's blood tested and pretend it's his.

[Felya]

What laundry list of substances would show up in a Trump drug test? Much like his promise to release his taxes, there's no fucking way he would actually take a real drug test and release the genuine results.

He is literally blocking his DNA from being released as part of Trump breaking an NDA he signed with a woman he raped, when he insulted her and called her a liar. Turns out she has a sample to match as evidence... I don’t think anyone is getting their hands on anything testable for Trump.