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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    The contrast between the two conventions is like the difference between darkness and light. The choice couldn't be clearer for voters. And the turn out % is going to be a major factor in who wins.
    They literally called Trump the only one to stop the collapse of western culture. What sort of darkness do you live in, for that to be the light? Are you in constant fear of antifa and rioters? Do you care that Trump’s tax cut, will defund your social security by 2023? Do you think Biden, the man behind criminal justice reform and Harris, a DA that every extreme liberal is shitting on, are controlled by rioters?

    See... this is perspectives created by rhetoric. You see your self in darkness, with Trump as the light. While the DNC presented a country of light and unity, with only one man representing darkness.

    Mail in voting, without a sound way to making sure the vote is valid, is going to delay the results and also raise a lot of questions as to the validity of the votes.
    We have mail in voting in several states and literally across the world. In this world of light that Trump presented, where was him talking about making mail in voting safer and not just preventing it? If Trump did so well, why does more people voting, seem like a risk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    That depends a lot on which comments you are reading.
    Dude... They literally called Trump the only think saving western culture. How is that not exactly North Korea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    But I guess you don't care as long as you're unaffected. Which is fair. Gotta look out for number one whilst owning the libs.
    Not true... Social Security being defunded as a result of Trump’s promised tax cut, will hit him by 2023.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Not true... Social Security being defunded as a result of Trump’s promised tax cut, will hit him by 2023.
    I know. Was just making a sweeping generalisation. Was mainly implying how selfish, blind and narrow minded the poster is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    I know. Was just making a sweeping generalisation. Was mainly implying how selfish, blind and narrow minded the poster is.
    Totally, I used it to point it out again.

    How did everyone like that fireworks for Trump? With that sign in the background... “Trump failed us, 180000 dead”...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Totally, I used it to point it out again.

    How did everyone like that fireworks for Trump? With that sign in the background... “Trump failed us, 180000 dead”...
    I thought the Lincoln Project's advert on Trump's Wall was particularly precise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    I thought the Lincoln Project's advert on Trump's Wall was particularly precise.

    Holy shit.......that ad was incredible.
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    I know I’m the only concerned with this but I have the worst feeling that there will be mass shootings at polling stations in the democrat areas.

    Because of trumps stupid mouth of having polling stations be “watched”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Trump is currently in a place where it ain't too far-fetched to imagine him 'sending in some good men' to shoot up a place so he can continue a narrative he likes.!
    Trump will do anything to win he has already proven he doesn't care about human life. At this point even selling Ivanka to Putin is on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinastorm View Post
    Whelp, quite a 4 nights of lying and insanity.

    I'm actually astonished how much effort they seemingly put into trying to get the black vote. They largely wasted their time, of course.
    It wasn't so much about trying to get the black vote, as it was to try to get the vote of white people who want a Republican in power, but are somewhat hesitant to vote for a racist. The plan was to get them to think to themselves, "Wow, if all these black and brown people are supporting him, he can't possibly be a racist. He's got my vote."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    The contrast between the two conventions is like the difference between darkness and light. The choice couldn't be clearer for voters. And the turn out % is going to be a major factor in who wins.
    Hey, you said something that is absolutely 100% correct. Good for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Mail in voting, without a sound way to making sure the vote is valid, is going to delay the results and also raise a lot of questions as to the validity of the votes.
    And then you had to go and ruin it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Mail in voting, without a sound way to making sure the vote is valid, is going to delay the results and also raise a lot of questions as to the validity of the votes.
    Mail in voting has never be invalid. EVER. Why are you questioning something we've been doing for 20 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Trump is currently in a place where it ain't too far-fetched to imagine him 'sending in some good men' to shoot up a place so he can continue a narrative he likes.

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    Also I'm gonna spam this thread with this video just one more time

    cuz damn that ad was amazing!
    They are really killing it with those ads. I wonder if there is some tacit agreement where Republicans Against Trump are going on the attack, while Biden keeps it positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Mail in voting, without a sound way to making sure the vote is valid, is going to delay the results and also raise a lot of questions as to the validity of the votes.
    What facts do you have for this?

    You know people can't just mail in a sheet of paper from their desk saying who they are voting for right? I mean do you know that...right?

    I ask because mail in voting has been a thing since the Civil fucking War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Trump will do anything to win he has already proven he doesn't care about human life. At this point even selling Ivanka to Putin is on the table.
    I feel like the election validity attack is just the start. The "October Surprise" is still in the periphery and I don't think the USPS was their main attack. We have all talked about what dirty tricks Trump is planning to win. The GOP is already spending $20M to fund 50,000 "Poll Watchers", which is only going to end in violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    What facts do you have for this?

    You know people can't just mail in a sheet of paper from their desk saying who they are voting for right? I mean do you know that...right?

    I ask because mail in voting has been a thing since the Civil fucking War.
    He doesn't have any facts, and this is [strangely] the first time the issue has been raised. Odd, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    What facts do you have for this?

    You know people can't just mail in a sheet of paper from their desk saying who they are voting for right? I mean do you know that...right?

    I ask because mail in voting has been a thing since the Civil fucking War.
    You receive the ballot from your board of elections and you send the completed document back. It couldn't be any fucking easier than that. The votes are counted on election day with election watchers from both parties present.

    So sick of all of this misinformation. The only reason he's presenting absentee ballot voting as sketchy is because Trump is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    Reading comments around the internet, seems like the USA is currently suffering from North Korea levels of propaganda :S

    "Liberals want to destroy america, don't harm your country" "Trump will murder the poor"

    like i know Americans like taking things to extreme but there's a level they should stop at. So many unregulated news outlets that just spout nonsense to try to acquire votes.
    There were several lengthy articles and books (and even classes) about the future of "extreme" journalism and how it affects society. Michael Crichton (of all people) covered it in a relatively unrelated fiction book by pointing out how the media is based almost entirely on profit (NPR is one of the few exceptions, I can't think of a conservative media outlet that isn't profit based, perhaps there is), and the dramatic increase in vernacular by the media to bump ratings/sales/viewers.

    If media was banned from making a profit, the world would be a different place. But it never will be, and we're stuck with the horror show we currently reside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    The contrast between the two conventions is like the difference between darkness and light. The choice couldn't be clearer for voters. And the turn out % is going to be a major factor in who wins.

    Mail in voting, without a sound way to making sure the vote is valid, is going to delay the results and also raise a lot of questions as to the validity of the votes.
    I too enjoyed watching Trump and Republicans blow up every norm and rule and repeatedly violate the Hatch Act, because they're the party of "respecting tradition" and they respected it by blowing every one of those traditions to smithereens.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ons-was-false/

    Shocking news, almost everything Trump said about Biden last night was...wait for it...I hope you're sitting down...a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    There were several lengthy articles and books (and even classes) about the future of "extreme" journalism and how it affects society. Michael Crichton (of all people) covered it in a relatively unrelated fiction book by pointing out how the media is based almost entirely on profit (NPR is one of the few exceptions, I can't think of a conservative media outlet that isn't profit based, perhaps there is), and the dramatic increase in vernacular by the media to bump ratings/sales/viewers.

    If media was banned from making a profit, the world would be a different place. But it never will be, and we're stuck with the horror show we currently reside.
    Umm no, State of Fear was a horrible book on soo many levels.

    I miss the early aughts. When hugely successful, and soft conservative authors like Crichton and Clancy thought that Eco-Terrorists were the next big threat...
    Imagine making truckloads of money ... only to become more bitter and unhinged.

    Or that new Tech Billionaires would be secret radical leftist eco-terrorist.... lol. The plot to 2020 makes their fiction look pretty sophomoric at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    I thought the Lincoln Project's advert on Trump's Wall was particularly precise.

    That was brutal.

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    Seems like for all the of RNC's fear mongering they were peddling it hasn't shifted the polls at all.

    Trump is still hovering around 41-42% and Biden 50-51%. At least for the DNC, Biden received a temporary 2% boost, Trump's RNC 0%.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...eral/national/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I too enjoyed watching Trump and Republicans blow up every norm and rule and repeatedly violate the Hatch Act, because they're the party of "respecting tradition" and they respected it by blowing every one of those traditions to smithereens.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ons-was-false/

    Shocking news, almost everything Trump said about Biden last night was...wait for it...I hope you're sitting down...a lie.
    I keep wondering what would happen if someone even remotely competent was in the White House - a Cheney or Bush1, and tried to get away with all of these felonious shenanigans. I mean, both did, but exponentially less that Trump and his Crime Family have done. Is it because Trump is so brazenly stupid and obviously with his grifting that he can retain such [relative] popularity? Is there some threshold of competence that once met, immediately starts losing you ignorant voters? The insanity of this entire situation is just beyond me. We aren't even arguing about the veracity of policy positions - we're literally arguing about facts and reality, with no exaggeration or embellishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Umm no, State of Fear was a horrible book on soo many levels.

    I miss the early aughts. When hugely successful, and soft conservative authors like Crichton and Clancy thought that Eco-Terrorists were the next big threat...
    Imagine making truckloads of money ... only to become more bitter and unhinged.

    Or that new Tech Billionaires would be secret radical leftist eco-terrorist.... lol. The plot to 2020 makes their fiction look pretty sophomoric at this point
    I remember rainbow six. It was a meh book (why the fuck they use Ebola? A spanish flu variant would suffice).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobb View Post
    Seems like for all the of RNC's fear mongering they were peddling it hasn't shifted the polls at all.

    Trump is still hovering around 41-42% and Biden 50-51%. At least for the DNC, Biden received a temporary 2% boost, Trump's RNC 0%.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...eral/national/
    Crazy that Trump still has that kind of approval rating. He is almost certainly at a 1932 time-line Hitler. And people just ignore all reality and fall in like the good Germans they are.

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