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Perfect? How about any? Everything he is saying or literally what he is campaigning on? WTF?Originally Posted by Shalcker
How do you sway people that are already there? How about... what you said is so absurd, that your continued defense of it, is getting even more absurd. Trump is spending millions, to preach to the quire?Second, as far as i see Trump isn't trying to sway anyone not already on his side with that.
Yes, I believe that Trump thinks Medicare for all is topic he can beat Biden on. You are the one arguing that Trump isn’t trying to gain votes... lunacy...Well, do you believe him?
Edit: Solid argument bro... Trump is just not trying to win...
Edit 2: @Ghostpanther this dude is claiming you and fox are lying about RNC flipping democrats and convincing independents. He seems to think the entire thing was about appealing to his existing support. I think you may need to have a word with him...
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2020-09-01, 01:32 PM #11121Void Lord
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2020-09-01, 01:41 PM #11122Banned
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If it doesn't then why exactly do you think it has to make sense to you? Originally Posted by Felya
Yes. It's not his own money, after all.Trump is spending millions, to preach to the quire?
And which position on M4A-Biden attack do you think will get him (or he thinks will get him) extra votes?Yes, I believe that Trump thinks Medicare for all is topic he can beat Biden on. You are the one arguing that Trump isn’t trying to gain votes... lunacy...
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2020-09-01, 01:45 PM #11123Void Lord
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What? Am I spending millions and the last week convincing the public Biden supports Medicare for all or Trump? Originally Posted by Shalcker
You should have that as your signature... “Trump is not trying to win”...Yes. It's not his own money, after all.
The one where his campaign is running in Biden being a secret puppet of the far left and will bring the economy destroying Medicare for all, as a Trojan horse of socialism. WTF? Do you follow elections at all?And which position on M4A-Biden attack do you think will get him (or he thinks will get him) extra votes?
Edit: Oh and just a reminder, as we are discussing support for Medicare for All... the defunding of Social Security, through deferred pay roll tax cut, started today.Last edited by Felya; 2020-09-01 at 01:53 PM.
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Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
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2020-09-01, 01:59 PM #11124Banned
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I actually want to humor this thought experiment. What do you honestly believe trump could offer the rioters that would be enough? Originally Posted by Dontrike
We saw in Minneapolis that they react to anything involving law and order as a concept when they rioted and looted because a suspected murder shot himself rather then face justice so just what kind of appeasement do you think we should be considering?
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I honestly just don't believe that BLM wants anything to do but riot. I can't recall a single " protest" of theirs that didn't involve assault, murder, looting, or arson. Maybe they never had the full spread at anyone time but they never got away from it. Originally Posted by Dontrike
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2020-09-01, 02:07 PM #11125Void Lord
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Return the criminal justice reform Obama implemented after protests during his term: Originally Posted by Krakan
Trump's scrapping of Obama-era reforms hinders police reform
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tion-oversight
Under Donald Trump, the US justice department has allowed federal mechanisms designed to impose change on racist police agencies to wither on the vine. As a result, law enforcement agencies that practice racial profiling, use excessive force and other forms of unconstitutional policing are now free from federal oversight.
The most important of those tools, known as consent decrees, were deployed extensively by the Barack Obama administration in the wake of previous high-profile police killings of unarmed black men. They included the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, in 2014; 12-year-old Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio, that same year; and the 2015 death of Freddie Gray in Baltimore, Maryland.Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2020-09-01, 02:07 PM #11126Old God
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What are you honestly happy about with Trump's term? Originally Posted by Krakan
- His wall became a fence that is easily scaled its only been built where there was already a barrier and Mexico isn't paying for it.
- He bungled COVID-19 by literally any measure.
- Racial tensions have worsened under his watch.
- Right wing terrorism has increased.
- The economy is in the shitter due to his incompetence with the pandemic.
- Our world standing has decreased.
- The military is turning on him."When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown
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2020-09-01, 02:09 PM #11127Void Lord
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Trump Has Already Demolished Obama's Criminal-Justice Legacy
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m...justice-legacy
On criminal justice, Donald J. Trump’s predecessor was a late-blooming activist. By the end of President Barack Obama’s second term, his administration had exhorted prosecutors to stop measuring success by the number of defendants sent away for the maximum, taken a hands-off approach to states legalizing marijuana and urged local courts not to punish the poor with confiscatory fines and fees. His Justice Department intervened in cities where communities had lost trust in their police.Police reform, at least the federal enthusiasm for it, died a sudden death in 2017. The Department of Justice has shown no interest in continuing to seek consent decrees or court orders requiring police departments that have been found to have violated civil rights to reform their practices. A voluntary process known as collaborative reform, where police departments could seek the Justice Department’s expertise to improve its relations and performance with communities, was killed off.
Instead, Sessions has pledged his unwavering support for law enforcement, and in speeches has blamed “divisive rhetoric,” meaning the protests of groups such as Black Lives Matter, for violence against law officers. “So it can come as no surprise when we see rising levels of violence against law enforcement,” Sessions told the National Fraternal Order of Police last year, overlooking the fact that the number of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty last year dropped to its second-lowest level in more than 50 years.
Civil rights advocates were alarmed by a leaked FBI report on “black identity extremists.” Groups such as the NAACP worry that such labels will be used to discredit anyone protesting police abuse or illegal uses of force—like, to cite a favorite presidential target, NFL players taking a knee or raising a fist against police violence.
The Department of Justice has not backed away from prosecuting individual police officers for abuses. Most notably, last month, prosecutors secured a 20-year sentence for former North Charleston, South Carolina, police officer Michael T. Slager after he pleaded guilty to civil rights violations in the killing of Walter Scott in April 2015.Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2020-09-01, 02:16 PM #11128Merely a Setback
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I know you are not American so I will let you in on a secret this isn't the first time we have had to deal with racial unrest, we've had worse and every predecessor managed to calmed the situation down. Heck even Richard Fucking Nixon (huge racist) had enough brains to handle them, you call for unity, acknowledge the problem, treat the protesters with respect and meet with community leaders and propose changes. Originally Posted by Krakan
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2020-09-01, 02:22 PM #11129Banned
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Don't forget moderate winds blew it down. Originally Posted by Bodakane
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2020-09-01, 02:28 PM #11130Legendary!
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Which to me is actually one of the more hopeful things about the Trump presidency. That ability of political leaders to placate rather then resolve has led to extremely slow progress in racial equality. America won't move forward on this if everything is calm, because there is no incentive to do so. The people benefiting from the status quo have no reason to change course, and the people suffering under it have no ability to change it, except by being disruptive. Originally Posted by Draco-Onis
Previous Presidents, including Obama, were extremely effective at quelling unrest by acting like decent human beings (Regardless of if they actually were). Once the unrest was calmed, very little progress was typically made. Even when big steps were taken, lack of emphasis on enforcement led to those steps being quickly eroded. Even watershed moments like school desegregation have been walked back by a myriad of tactics intended to accomplish the same effects under a different label, all while politicians placate and sooth.
Trump on the other hand is making no attempts to placate anyone. Every word out of his mouth is intended to inflame, vilify, and repress. Any other president would have got the situation under control by late April or May, Trump has just grown it. The result is a huge surge in momentum pushing for a positive, permanent change. By inflaming this, Trump has left the federal government with only one real way out, fixing the problem at the root of it all. Trump won't do it, it is the opposite of what he wants to do, but someone is going to have to, or this won't stop. My biggest fear out of all this is that Biden might be able to calm it down without fixing anything, that relief of Trump being gone might actually sooth the problem so much we don't have to address the actual problem. I don't think that will happen though, not if Trump keeps fanning the flames the way he has been.
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2020-09-01, 03:37 PM #11131Old God
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Nice poll. What I am confused about is that who are these people that still have not made up their mind about Trump? Hermits that have been living in isolation in the forest for the last 4 years and just came out recently? The fact that at this stage we still have undecided voters is mindboggling. Originally Posted by Milchshake
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2020-09-01, 03:52 PM #11132Titan
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Nate Silver touches on that in his blog today. There's always a number of late-deciders in n every election. But that number is shrinking in the age of hyper-partisanship. Originally Posted by Rasulis
Also, polls in 2016 did not account for education. Which turns out is a big component in identifying a voter's affiliation. Polls have been including questions and cross tabs about educations starting in 2018.
Polls that dont, should be taken less seriously.
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2020-09-01, 04:11 PM #11133Merely a Setback
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This is relevant: Originally Posted by Rasulis
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KAG37Kw1-aw“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by. Originally Posted by Wells
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2020-09-01, 05:04 PM #11134Legendary!
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This is actually pretty damned clever.
Biden campaign launches official Animal Crossing: New Horizons yard signs
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2020-09-01, 05:07 PM #11135Over 9000!
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he sings the song of our people. Originally Posted by Benggaul
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2020-09-01, 05:10 PM #11136Moderator
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...k-in-politics/
People in dark shadows who are on the streets and controlling the streets are truly in charge of the Biden campaign. Which is precisely why Biden came out yesterday and strongly condemned the violence during the protests. Who? Dark shadows people. Dark people. In the shadows. On the streets.
This man is deeply retarded. Deeply, deeply retarded. I don't mean that he has a mental disability or handicap by any means, he doesn't. He's just fucking stupid as all get out.
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2020-09-01, 05:12 PM #11137Legendary!
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Well he's also running out of ways to subtly say "black people" so it's getting more overt. Originally Posted by Edge-
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2020-09-01, 05:13 PM #11138High Overlord
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It's the same people who push the narrative that Soros is paying the protesters. It's just sad the cult believes the lies. Originally Posted by Edge-
I just wish I knew where to sign up for this free money.
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This is shades better than Hillary's attempt with Pokemon Go. Originally Posted by Benggaul
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2020-09-01, 05:15 PM #11140Moderator
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https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...n-15529161.php
Round 2 on "dark, shadowy people"
Quite a tale he's spinning without a single piece of evidence to support any of his allegations.“No, people you haven’t heard of,” Trump continued. “We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. They’re on a plane.”
“I’ll tell you some time but it’s under investigation right now,” Trump said. “But they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention and there were like, seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage. They were coming.”
Ingraham asked if they were headed for Washington.
“This was all, this was all happening,” Trump said. Ingraham asked where they were getting their money.
“The money is coming from some very stupid rich people that have no idea that if their thing ever succeeded, which it won’t, they will be thrown to the wolves like you’ve never seen before,” Trump said
Not that he's ever needed any evidence for any of his wild, unhinged conspiracy theories.
This is what the election is about, y'all. It ain't a battle of ideologies. It's about removing a sick, deranged old racist from the most powerful office in the land and restoring some semblance of decency and decorum so we can get things back on track.
