Nope, those were both comments to me, and I was not bringing up 2016.
It was in response to these two comments:
You said:
Then, I said:
And you replied:
So, do you want to simply apologize, and admit to being a complete hypocrite, or are you going to press this further?
In the end, not only have you been proven to be a hypocrite, but you made baseless claims against me, and have just bragged you will not be backing them up. I'd say that pretty much defines you at this point.
So, can you stop bringing up 2016? This is the 2020 election thread. /s
I am saying that she won the popular vote, nothing more. You are moving goal posts for some ungodly reason. What gaslighting? I’m following the rules by not calling you a troll, but sticking to the topic. I expect the same from you... unless you are incapable...
You are defending Bernie, even though you show no hint of supporting democratic socialism, while defending Trump out of principle? Why was it so hard to simply admin @Muchismo was right? Why did I need to pry this out of you?I always come at these discussions as a matter of principle. I'm not even a Democratic Socialist. Where you would get that I have no idea. I've never claimed or hinted at being one.
The only direct principle you have yet to contradict, is supporting Trump’s win out of principle that popular vote doesn’t mater.I don't support Berine as a person to vote for. I supported Bernie because of his policies. We've been over this.
Yet, despite Hilary getting 3 million more votes... which seems pretty enthusiastic... You don’t blame Trump for it, because of your principles that he won? Anything else you are willing to ignore out of principle?Voting across the board was down in 2016. It was lower than 2008 and 2012. So yes, people were not enthusiastic to vote.
Every fucking thing I have been calling out for the last 3 pages... every question you didn’t answer... You are now literally agreeing with the original premise... it just took 3 pages of bullshit...What unsubstantiated claims have I made, and if I made one about Biden in 2020 why do you continue to bring up 2016?
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
Well, this is you getting caught being utterly disingenuous, man, how embarrassing for you.
I literally pointed to comments I made, and where you responded TO ME by invoking 2016. You then turned around, and beseeched someone else to stop doing exactly what you did to me... twice.
It wasn't out of context. In fact, I literally provided the context, by showing the quotes to which you were responding. If you disagree, then prove me wrong. Go back two pages, and look for yourself.
I look forward to your evidence.
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I enjoyed it, just like I enjoyed the evidence that showed you to be lying, and a hypocrite.
Last edited by Machismo; 2020-04-24 at 05:30 PM.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
It's not simply what he wants to tell himself, the evidence was laid out quite plainly for you to see. You simply refuse to acknowledge that I was right, and you were being hypocritical. In the end, it's either you acting in bad faith, or you being consumed by willful ignorance. Those are the only two options for why you are ignoring objective evidence.
Do you need to see that evidence again?
It was literally your quotes, that showed me to be correct in my assertion.
Is this what you've been relegated to, trying to shitpost your way out of being proven wrong? Sometimes, you just have to walk away. I honestly like you as a poster, but this is one of those times where you should just pack it up for the day. You got caught, and keep digging yourself deeper.
It was our conversation that you and I were having. There's nothing out of context about it, it was literally from the start of when you and I were speaking.
Here, I'll make it easy, so you can stop trying to lie your way out of it:
Here you are invoking 2016 in your very first reply to me:
And here you are, invoking it once again:
Now, for the record, I don't much give a shit if you bring up 2016, because i do think it is relevant to this election. But, when you bitch and whine that someone else is bringing up 2016, and you also invoke it, then you are being a hypocrite.
Enjoy the evidence!!!
And all I said in response was:
YOU SAID THOSE TO ME. This was literally the beginning of our conversation today. You were not speaking to someone else, you were speaking to me.
As we saw, you were bringing it up.
Of course, this could all go away, if you'd just admit you were the one in the wrong, and being a hypocrite.
It's not a "gotcha," it's showing that you are being disingenuous, and flat out fucking lying.
Now, the only real question, is whether your actions are out of malice and bad faith, or simply a matter of your willful ignorance overtaking all common sense and intellectual honesty. So, which is it?
And, I pointed out that your whine was misplaced, since you were doing the exact same thing.
The evidence has been provided. You cannot refute any of it, because those are the literal words of our conversation. At least we have more of an idea as to why you did it.
Nevertheless, you persisted... regardless of how wrong you were. Enjoy the evidence!!!
Which is why I provided my comments in their entirety to which you were replying. Did you notice how the quotes went back and forth?
You are welcome for that. If you still don't believe me, feel free to go back to my first comment:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...9#post52287799
Enjoy the evidence!!!
Last edited by Machismo; 2020-04-24 at 06:38 PM.
You two aren't proving anything to anyone except that it's a waste of time to read your posts. Maybe it's time to just PM one another.
Good point... there is no point to the argument any longer (sorry Macho). The original premise has been confirmed, with someone trying to spam his failures away:
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi