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    My Auntie had Biden as number one.

    Funny thing though ... no one remembers Biden pretty much leading the polls for nearly a whole year. So Biden was essential the no.1 pick for the base (or 30%) for the whole year.



    That one dip.... Iowa and New Hampshire, not exactly representative of the Dem Base.

    Listen to your Aunties

    Biden is like the anti-"online" candidate. Very online people just cant comprehend why he's in the lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Funny thing though ... no one remembers Biden pretty much leading the polls for nearly a whole year. So Biden was essential the no.1 pick for the base (or 30%) for the whole year.
    Yes, the primary was a Keynesian beauty contest basically the whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Biden is like the anti-"online" candidate. Very online people just cant comprehend why he's in the lead.
    Nah, I said long, long ago that for 2020 people were going to want someone boring because the past 4 years have been fucking exhausting even if you're not online. It's why I was surprised Bernie was doing so well (though, as you note, not really as well as Biden) considering I'd figured people had had enough of radical change and probably just want to have a do-over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Nah, I said long, long ago that for 2020 people were going to want someone boring because the past 4 years have been fucking exhausting even if you're not online. It's why I was surprised Bernie was doing so well (though, as you note, not really as well as Biden) considering I'd figured people had had enough of radical change and probably just want to have a do-over.
    Yea, 2016 was the year for going after the establishment. 2020 is for repairing the vast amount of damage Trump has done and that requires someone with the full support of the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I actually want to humor this thought experiment. What do you honestly believe trump could offer the rioters that would be enough?
    Well brute force and cops in unmarked vans picking people up in the street didn't work so......you're right there's nothing left to try. Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I actually want to humor this thought experiment. What do you honestly believe trump could offer the rioters that would be enough?

    We saw in Minneapolis that they react to anything involving law and order as a concept when they rioted and looted because a suspected murder shot himself rather then face justice so just what kind of appeasement do you think we should be considering?

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    I honestly just don't believe that BLM wants anything to do but riot. I can't recall a single " protest" of theirs that didn't involve assault, murder, looting, or arson. Maybe they never had the full spread at anyone time but they never got away from it.
    You live in a fucking fantasy world. The vast majority of BLM protests and demonstrations are peaceful. A peaceful gathering doesn't usually make national news but in cities all over the country BLM supporters gather, march, and peacefully protest. You should stop being surprised by what you don't know and accept that it's a fuck load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Nah, I said long, long ago that for 2020 people were going to want someone boring because the past 4 years have been fucking exhausting even if you're not online. It's why I was surprised Bernie was doing so well (though, as you note, not really as well as Biden) considering I'd figured people had had enough of radical change and probably just want to have a do-over.
    Bernie was doing well for the same reasons Trump did well in the primaries--a core 30ish% base of support in a 5-way (or overcrowded) race wins. When other Dems strategically dropped out, their supporters also coalesced around Biden.
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    Since the topic of the environment seems to be exclusive to RNC calling Biden an environmental extremist that will take all of our stuff... let’s combine it with ‘Meanwhile in Russia...’:



    That’s a crater created by methane exploding out of the ground, due to record breaking heat in Siberia... I wonder how Ghina is pulling off such a hoax...

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    Just a quick update on how well progressive movement is doing in US... we are on day 2 of functionally defunding Social Security. Might want to step up your game against Trump or in 4 years... I bet Medicare for all won’t be in discussion for even progressives, because things like social security will return as a progressive hot topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestopft View Post
    People can be enthusiastic about beating Trump, but still not be enthusiastic about Biden.
    Which is fine, as both accomplish the same goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigTone View Post
    When your ancestor, yourself, your loved one are treated as subhuman for 100s of years. You will start to riot as well.
    I mean I don't see the Irish taking revenge on Americans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I mean I don't see the Irish taking revenge on Americans...
    Well, we can add "not knowing American history" to the list.

    https://www.historyireland.com/18th-...ish-civil-war/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Since the topic of the environment seems to be exclusive to RNC calling Biden an environmental extremist that will take all of our stuff... let’s combine it with ‘Meanwhile in Russia...’:



    That’s a crater created by methane exploding out of the ground, due to record breaking heat in Siberia... I wonder how Ghina is pulling off such a hoax...
    Giant Russian Dirt Fart. Or GRDF for short.

    This is a serious problem actually, the permafrost holds a staggering amount of carbon, and the warmer it gets, the faster it gets released. Which means it gets warmer faster, which means it releases more... It is really bad. Methane is a really powerful greenhouse gas, and there are staggering amounts of it there.

    Canada and Russia are likely to wind up the worlds top sources of atmospheric carbon, and it isn't their fault at all, it is just the dirt that is leaking the stuff.

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    Glaciers have the same feedback loop. And the meltwater that pools on top of ice is now growing algae which is green and doesn't reflect light as well as ice causing it to warm and melt faster.

    Bottom line is don't panic. Rising sea levels will fill in that GRDF!

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    Happy Snarkterday!

    Here's a poll that might make you feel better than yourself.

    Polling USA
    Net Approvals:


    Harris: +5
    Biden: +4
    Melania Trump: -
    Scott: -3
    Pence: -6
    Haley: -6
    Cotton: -7
    Pompeo: -8
    McCarthy: -8
    Schumer: -12
    Pelosi: -13
    Trump: -13
    Tiffany Trump: -14
    Ivanka Trump: -15
    Trump Jr: -19
    Eric Trump: -19
    Kushner: -21

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    poor Tiffany, they only thing worse than her extensions, are her approval ratings.

    /sips tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Happy Snarkterday!

    Here's a poll that might make you feel better than yourself.

    Polling USA
    Net Approvals:


    Harris: +5
    Biden: +4
    Melania Trump: -
    Scott: -3
    Pence: -6
    Haley: -6
    Cotton: -7
    Pompeo: -8
    McCarthy: -8
    Schumer: -12
    Pelosi: -13
    Trump: -13
    Tiffany Trump: -14
    Ivanka Trump: -15
    Trump Jr: -19
    Eric Trump: -19
    Kushner: -21

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    poor Tiffany, they only thing worse than her extensions, are her approval ratings.

    /sips tea
    How is Kushner lower than Eric?!

    It is a bit sad to see Pelosi pretty far down on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I mean I don't see the Irish taking revenge on Americans...
    Than you are ignorant af. There were massive riots by the Irish during the civil war. They were treated as subhuman and rioted just like people are rioting now.

    This country has been racist for a very long time, and it hasn't always been just racist against black and brown people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    How is Kushner lower than Eric?!
    Eric comes across as an idiot.

    Kushner comes across as Goebbels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post

    poor Tiffany, they only thing worse than her extensions, are her approval ratings.

    /sips tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    How is Kushner lower than Eric?!

    It is a bit sad to see Pelosi pretty far down on the list.
    I am confused about the 1 percent of assholes that like Trump, but hate Tiffany... Why would you do that? I get hating Tiffany if you hate Trump, because she is just another lump on the family tumor, but I don't see disliking her if you like her dad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Eric comes across as an idiot.

    Kushner comes across as Goebbels.
    Sadly, the more likely reason is that Kushner is Jewish. Certain of Trump supporters aren't ok with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post

    It is a bit sad to see Pelosi pretty far down on the list.
    As with most congresspeople, they’re really only popular within their own state. And Pelosi has been absolutely despised by conservatives, Californian included, for a good long while now.

    But of course Pelosi isn’t running for, nor attached in any official capacity to the campaign of anyone else running for, president. So the national public’s approval or disapproval of her really means dick about butt.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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