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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
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    Trump is also incapable of handling the entire situation because he has no idea how to tackle a country that's intent on doing things their own way.

    Not saying China is right, just Trump is wrong. For all his strongman posturing, he's a callow schoolyard bully. Only picks on 'easy targets'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    This is how despicable some of the Democrats can be in order to push their political narrative. Using the image of a injured Iraq war veteran in one of their political adds without that soldier's permission and especially so when he does agree with their accusation against our President....
    Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...uckers/615997/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    This is how despicable some of the Democrats can be in order to push their political narrative. Using the image of a injured Iraq war veteran in one of their political adds without that soldier's permission and especially so when he does agree with their accusation against our President....

    Lol. Trump is using people without their permission all the time. The RNC was CHOCK FULL of content Trump used without permission.

    He's also misled people by using videos of riots from OTHER countries in order spread hysteria. And furthermore, making this video go viral IS exactly what the soldier is accusing the Democrats of doing, except it's Republicans doing it. The pearl clutching is off the charts.

    He's gotten more exposure from GOP folk using his image than in the Democrat ad. And yes, Trump's disrespect of the military is pretty much unilateral. Just because he hugs the flag and what not doesn't take away from the amount he's disparaged the service with policy and words.

    Sit the fuck down, you have no righteous position on this. Hit and run away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Sit the fuck down, you have no righteous position on this. Hit and run away.
    Trump administration siphoned almost $4 million from 9/11 first responders fund: report
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...ort-2020-09-11

    Let’s not even imagine what Trump would say or do if he wasn’t a supporter... and the same people outraged now, would be clapping along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Trump administration siphoned almost $4 million from 9/11 first responders fund: report
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...ort-2020-09-11
    Disabled veterans urge Congress, Trump to fund USPS.
    https://www.stripes.com/news/us/disa...-usps-1.641649

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    He’s a coward, but if you pay him enough he’ll send our troops anywhere in the world.
    Unless it involves anything actually resembling social justice and anti-fascist. Then not gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    He’s a coward, but if you pay him enough he’ll send our troops anywhere in the world.
    Trump claims he has ‘no financial interests in Saudi Arabia’ — but he makes lots of money from it
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/16/trum...kes-money.html
    “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump said during a presidential campaign rally in Alabama in August 2015.

    “Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

    At another rally that year, Trump said of the Saudis, “I make a lot of money from them.”

    They buy all sorts of my stuff. All kinds of toys from Trump. They pay me millions and hundred of millions.”

    Trump admin sending thousands more U.S. troops to Saudi Arabia
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast...rabia-n1065051
    The Trump administration said Friday it is sending 2,800 more troops, fighter jets and missile defense weaponry to Saudi Arabia to help bolster the kingdom’s defenses after a September attack on its oil facilities.

    Defense Secretary Mark Esper ordered the deployment of additional service members, two fighter squadrons, one air expeditionary wing, two Patriot Missile batteries and one THAAD missile defense system. With the additional deployment announced Friday, Esper said U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia will number approximately 3,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    This is how despicable some of the Democrats can be in order to push their political narrative. Using the image of a injured Iraq war veteran in one of their political adds without that soldier's permission and especially so when he does agree with their accusation against our President....

    Yeah, you can keep your crocodile tears. Trump literally called veterans and dead soldiers suckers and losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Yeah, you can keep your crocodile tears. Trump literally called veterans and dead soldiers suckers and losers.
    Trump just created veterans in the Great War of Portland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    This is how despicable some of the Democrats can be in order to push their political narrative. Using the image of a injured Iraq war veteran in one of their political adds without that soldier's permission and especially so when he does agree with their accusation against our President....
    Well, it's a good thing he didn't die in combat, or otherwise you'd be agreeing with Trump that this man was a sucker and/or loser, right?


    Multiple people have pointed this out to you; I wonder why you don't see fit to respond to them. Do you think by not responding we all assume that you didn't see it,, and therefore it didn't happen?
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Well, it's a good thing he didn't die in combat, or otherwise you'd be agreeing with Trump that this man was a sucker and/or loser, right?

    Multiple people have pointed this out to you; I wonder why you don't see fit to respond to them. Do you think by not responding we all assume that you didn't see it,, and therefore it didn't happen?
    The MO has always been when they're boxed in by their own arguments, they put the person pointing out the clownery on ignore.

    The irony in 'free speech' advocates being some of the biggest users of media curation, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Multiple people have pointed this out to you; I wonder why you don't see fit to respond to them. Do you think by not responding we all assume that you didn't see it,, and therefore it didn't happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    The irony in 'free speech' advocates being some of the biggest users of media curation, lol.
    Curation you say... that’s an interesting tact... hhmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    The MO has always been when they're boxed in by their own arguments, they put the person pointing out the clownery on ignore.

    The irony in 'free speech' advocates being some of the biggest users of media curation, lol.
    It also speaks to a real bit of intellectual dishonesty.

    Like, why should anyone take their criticism even remotely seriously when it's so egregiously one-sided? Clearly, this person doesn't care about veterans or military personnel.

    They like that Trump lowered their taxes, and that's the single-button issue that they care about. All of this other fluff about criticizing democrats for shit Trump has done ten times worse is just fluff to try and excuse the fact that they have no actual moral highground to be speaking from.
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    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    This is how despicable some of the Democrats can be in order to push their political narrative. Using the image of a injured Iraq war veteran in one of their political adds without that soldier's permission and especially so when he does agree with their accusation against our President....
    Yet more proof that your best argument about Trump's hatred for the Military is just another whatabousim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    It also speaks to a real bit of intellectual dishonesty.

    Like, why should anyone take their criticism even remotely seriously when it's so egregiously one-sided? Clearly, this person doesn't care about veterans or military personnel.

    They like that Trump lowered their taxes, and that's the single-button issue that they care about. All of this other fluff about criticizing democrats for shit Trump has done ten times worse is just fluff to try and excuse the fact that they have no actual moral highground to be speaking from.
    They like that Trump lowered their taxes when it's not even evident that he did so for most of them, rofl.

    But - are we surprised? Trump's regime has always been about smashing norms, I guess that includes any degree of subtlety about the actual point of their policies.

    Like Edge says, the cruelty is the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a Republican literally use a disabled man's words, out of context, just a week or so ago to try attack Biden?
    Not just out of context - they “forged” some words - put in words he never said using an imitation of the computerized voice he speaks with.

    But they do not care. They’re depraved cult members who will do anything for Dear Leader and will die doing so.

    They’re pathetic husks that would rather die than admit they were conned and are wrong, and frankly at this point I’d let them.

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    As an aside, it’s interesting to look at how the two candidates are behaving on the 19th anniversary of 9/11.

    Joe Biden has not campaigned today on his social media. He’s focused on mourning the loss felt by the nation in 2001.

    Donald Trump meanwhile, tried to do this. Kept quiet from campaigning for half of the day. Then he turned FOX News on. The rest is just the usual day in Trumpworld afte that.

  18. #12218
    Tulsi Gabbard is calling for a boycott of Netflix over the film "Cuties" because apparently she's a month or two behind the rest of the news and is desperate to remain relevant. Meanwhile, most of the people agreeing with her seem to think it's the Democrats' fault for some reason.

    This isn't suspicious at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Tulsi Gabbard is calling for a boycott of Netflix over the film "Cuties" because apparently she's a month or two behind the rest of the news and is desperate to remain relevant. Meanwhile, most of the people agreeing with her seem to think it's the Democrats' fault for some reason.

    This isn't suspicious at all.
    Why are we talking about a retired politician in an election thread? Who cares.

    But since we are on the topic, outrage about the movie has picked back up, it wasn't just her randomly coming out of the blue.

    I don't think there's anything partisan about the drama surrounding the movie but there were a number of left-wing blue check marks on Twitter who spoke in favor of the movie. Also for some reason people view Netflix as 'liberal', so u guess if you are some stuck in their own bubble you'd try to come up with some half assed narrative that the left is pushing for the movie.

    Had completely forgotten about Gabbard until now. I think she successfully baited people into keeping her relevant.

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    I swear if i didn't read this thread daily I would've thought a mod merged a "CMV: I'm not a Trump supporter" thread by accident here.

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