1. #12521
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Incorrect. We have an electoral college so none of your votes outside a few states where they are legally obligated to follow the popular vote is a vote actually counted.

    I've never gone so far to shame anyone, because I actually believe in democracy. If you want to vote for Biden do it. If someone wants to vote for Trump so be it. I'll still criticize both of them, but I tend to lean more democratic, and the democrats have screwed over the poorest Americans my whole life. So you'll excuse me for not wanting to continue the slow drip of the moderates.

    Even now I heard Biden wants to expand the Military Budget even further. I could make a post about it, but then I'd probably just get chastised again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Incorrect. We have an electoral college so none of your votes outside a few states where they are legally obligated to follow the popular vote is a vote actually counted.

    I've never gone so far to shame anyone, because I actually believe in democracy. If you want to vote for Biden do it. If someone wants to vote for Trump so be it. I'll still criticize both of them, but I tend to lean more democratic, and the democrats have screwed over the poorest Americans my whole life. So you'll excuse me for not wanting to continue the slow drip of the moderates.

    Even now I heard Biden wants to expand the Military Budget even further. I could make a post about it, but then I'd probably just get chastised again.
    Look don't get me wrong. I will criticize Biden if he does something stupid. But I feel better knowing that Biden's stupid is better than the resident's stupid. The resident's stupid is getting almost 200K people killed. Biden might just piss off some people on Wall Street and they lose some money or he has one of his harmless gaffs. Oh, wells.

    Also, it's not just you who think this way, I am sure many people in swing states feel the same way you do. That's why it's essentially a swing state. Many of those people are essentially single-policy voters and feel either candidate is bad and can't vote for any. But those people will be in for a rude awakening if the resident gets another term and their lives become more miserable. If they want change, they need to vote for it. And sitting out or voting for the third-party does not improve their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That’s pretty bad ass... go Biden!!!

    Know your audience.
    You know I always found the pandering insult weird pandering is their job. I mean what do these people think Trump does when he talks about immigration or pretends he is religious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I've never gone so far to shame anyone, because I actually believe in democracy.
    You are actively doing it, be it you realize it or not. Sorry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    You know I always found the pandering insult weird pandering is their job. I mean what do these people think Trump does when he talks about immigration or pretends he is religious.
    It’s not pandering, when he starts talking about solutions. His video doesn’t cut out soon enough, to be pandering. Here is Biden’s full criminal justice reform policy explained by Vox:

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...n-war-on-drugs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Dude... I lived in USSR... this is abhorrent... I get infracted when ever I let it all out. He is too afraid to respond to me, so there is not point in emphasizing with an infraction.
    Understood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Well he did say if all black people would be voting for him, because if they don't vote for him "You ain't black". Probably worse then his take saying the African American Community wasn't as diverse as Hispanics.
    Did you even watch the video? He literally said the shit you started threads on in 2016. I understand why Ghost would take issue with Biden calling it systemic racism, but you? WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    What a bunch of horse shit. Talk about pandering.
    No, it's a truth that many folks don't want to hear. If you're not familiar with the term "DWB", then you're either not black, don't have black friends, or have extremely lucky black friends, because it's a very real thing. Hell, it got so bad in the small college town I was going to school in that some of the black students would have their friends drive them into town and shit because they got so tired of local PD pulling them over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    No, it's a truth that many folks don't want to hear. If you're not familiar with the term "DWB", then you're either not black, don't have black friends, or have extremely lucky black friends, because it's a very real thing. Hell, it got so bad in the small college town I was going to school in that some of the black students would have their friends drive them into town and shit because they got so tired of local PD pulling them over.
    The video is too long... they should have cut it before he started discussing systemic racism... at least if you post it on Trump... uhm... less than enjoying... forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The video is too long... they should have cut it before he started discussing systemic racism... at least if you post it on Trump... uhm... less than enjoying... forum.
    I didn't even listen to the full thing, just to hear him say that the girl wouldn't have been pulled over because she's white. Which, again, statistically correct.

    https://openpolicing.stanford.edu/findings/

    There are very few areas where white people are pulled over at rates equal to, or greater than, black folks. And you have upwards of 3x the number of black folks pulled over in some places like SF, Madison or St. Paul.

    But look at that, he did go on to address the topic further before the video got cut off. I wanna know who runs that channel, because I keep seeing it pop up and it's gotta be doing the rounds somewhere.

  10. #12530
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    First time I have seen this clip. For others who may not, here it is..

    What a bunch of horse shit. Talk about pandering.
    Just hit like gramps.

    No need to post shit off your feed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I didn't even listen to the full thing, just to hear him say that the girl wouldn't have been pulled over because she's white. Which, again, statistically correct.
    I googled snopes, before clicking it. Thought I’d have to hunt down context, but realized I wasn’t the intended audience of the whole thing. I agree with him 100%...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Just hit like gramps.

    No need to post shit off your feed here.
    I liked it... I really think people who don’t think Biden is going all in on social justice, should watch it. There is a reason it’s posted by someone who believes Biden is left extremist puppet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    It also means you're supporting Biden, by that logic.
    Except, as has been litigated numerous times before... Republicans are more likely to win when voter turnout is low.

    You know who said that?


    Bernie Fucking Sanders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    First time I have seen this clip. For others who may not, here it is..

    What a bunch of horse shit. Talk about pandering.
    Explain how my grandmother’s black nurse’s son would constantly get pulled over, never given a ticket, but got to be a problem that we had to take her home so the police couldn’t hassle him any more. I’ve known since about 8 that DWB is an issue. More than 30 years ago. Things have not improved.

    Don’t say it’s because his car looked suspicious, my ‘76 dodge spirit was being held together with spit and duct tape, and I was never pulled over.

  14. #12534
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...an-jets-414883

    What is this, the third of fourth time the Trump campaign has used either foreign nationals in their patriotic American ads? Nice Russian jet and gun there.

    Making this more awkward, this isn't just a fail on the Trump campaign, this is their PAC they run with the Republican party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Democrats has a better chance of winning TX than GOP winning CA. There is a good chance that GOP will lose two more congressional seats in CA in November.
    mainly cause all the "we're getting companies from CA to come to TX" cheering, they never want to add "and they are convincing their staff to come to, and they arent swapping their political views just for a tax break"
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
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  16. #12536
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Still engaging in circular arguments with the salty spittoon, huh?
    This is why I bowed out of the Primaries thread. Looks like it's come to the same thing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Explain how my grandmother’s black nurse’s son would constantly get pulled over, never given a ticket, but got to be a problem that we had to take her home so the police couldn’t hassle him any more. I’ve known since about 8 that DWB is an issue. More than 30 years ago. Things have not improved.

    Don’t say it’s because his car looked suspicious, my ‘76 dodge spirit was being held together with spit and duct tape, and I was never pulled over.
    Yeah, I’ve never had issues with cops... I’m a giant white dude...
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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    He isn't wrong, and everything he said was the truth. I don't know why you are saying he is pandering.
    No, it was a lie. My daughter is white and she has been pulled over before by the police, for speeding. I know other white women who have been pulled over by the police. He is pandering for the black votes obviously.

    Meanwhile this brings up something many are saying is what will happen......https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kam...ual-roundtable

    Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's running mate in the 2020 election, raised eyebrows on Monday evening after she accidentally touted economic plans under a "Harris administration."

    Speaking during a virtual roundtable with small business owners in Arizona, Harris vowed that they will have an ally in the White House with the campaign's "Build Back Better" initiative.

    However, the California senator appeared to briefly suggest that she was at the top of the Democratic ticket.

    "A Harris administration, together with Joe Biden as the president of the United States," she said. She quickly clarified, "The Biden-Harris administration will provide access to $100 billion in low-interest loans and investments from minority business owners."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    No, it was a lie. My daughter is white and she has been pulled over before by the police, for speeding. I know other white women who have been pulled over by the police. He is pandering for the black votes obviously.
    See, the difference is that your daughter wouldn't be murdered for drunk driving, while Sandra Bland was murdered for seemingly no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    mainly cause all the "we're getting companies from CA to come to TX" cheering, they never want to add "and they are convincing their staff to come to, and they arent swapping their political views just for a tax break"
    This is actually kind of opposite of the truth. Most people who move to Texas do so because they like conservativism. Most of the left-leaning people were born here. In fact, if only native Texans voted in the 2018 election, Beto would have beat Cruz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    No, it was a lie. My daughter is white and she has been pulled over before by the police, for speeding. I know other white women who have been pulled over by the police. He is pandering for the black votes obviously.
    Your anecdote has absolutely nothing to do with anything. So suddenly because some family members of yours have been confronted by police officers... suddenly the historical persecution and mistreatment of black people by police officers is just... not a thing?

    Hell, you're the picture of "if I don't see it, it must not happen, so stop telling me about it!"

    Meanwhile this brings up something many are saying is what will happen......https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kam...ual-roundtable

    Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's running mate in the 2020 election, raised eyebrows on Monday evening after she accidentally touted economic plans under a "Harris administration."

    Speaking during a virtual roundtable with small business owners in Arizona, Harris vowed that they will have an ally in the White House with the campaign's "Build Back Better" initiative.

    However, the California senator appeared to briefly suggest that she was at the top of the Democratic ticket.

    "A Harris administration, together with Joe Biden as the president of the United States," she said. She quickly clarified, "The Biden-Harris administration will provide access to $100 billion in low-interest loans and investments from minority business owners."


    ...so fucking what?


    Harris spoke to the economic policies she'd work to enact.


    Trump called soldiers who died in war losers and suckers, and said he didn't like people who were captured by enemy forces.

    Weird that you're more incensed about the former, and have completely zero opinion on the latter!
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