Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Gestopft]

If you supported Bernie in the primaries, but aren't going to support Biden for the removal of Trump, then you aren't really a Bernie supporter.

You want progress? You want M4A, free college, UBI, etc. etc? You will NEVER see it in your lifetime if the GOP are allowed to continue their free reign over the destruction of American government. There's no guarantee you'll see those things under Democratic leadership either, but there's one hell of a better chance of achieving progress towards it when everything isn't on fire.

And more to the point, if you don't want to see everything Progressives can accomplish immediately overturned and discarded, Trump, er, the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society should not be allowed to replace RBG.

[Dacien]

I don't know if it's hitler to vote for Trump still or not, but I'm rapidly not caring. Like I'm quickly getting to the point where he seems to be doing fine and I don't see anyone else on the other side, so I'll probably vote Trump and if you want to come at me for it you can go pound sand.

Respectfully.

[Lenonis]

I don't know if it's hitler to vote for Trump still or not, but I'm rapidly not caring. Like I'm quickly getting to the point where he seems to be doing fine and I don't see anyone else on the other side, so I'll probably vote Trump and if you want to come at me for it you can go pound sand.

Respectfully.

I'm not sure why you think it's a surprise you are announcing your vote for Trump. Or why you think we believe you had any real debate about it.

The fact you think Trump is doing fine is very on brand though.

[Zantos]

I don't know if it's hitler to vote for Trump still or not, but I'm rapidly not caring. Like I'm quickly getting to the point where he seems to be doing fine and I don't see anyone else on the other side, so I'll probably vote Trump and if you want to come at me for it you can go pound sand.

Respectfully.

Im curious as to what aspects hes doing fine in. I personally see him ignoring every health expert repeatedly and continuing to do whatever he wants despite the ramifications being a loss of life.


I am honestly just hoping for a miracle at this point and that we will get a decent candidate. Last run we really didn't have anyone worth while and its left us in rough shape.

[Lenonis]

Im curious as to what aspects hes doing fine in. I personally see him ignoring every health expert repeatedly and continuing to do whatever he wants despite the ramifications being a loss of life.

Hope you aren't expecting a real answer. We've all been on this merry go round with Dacien. He feels Trump is doing fine so therefore he's doing fine. He feels like Trump is trying to fill his promises so it's as good as if he was actually doing it. And he feels Trump is a stand up honest guy, so therefore he is.

[Spectral]

I don't know if it's hitler to vote for Trump still or not, but I'm rapidly not caring.

Worse than Hitler this time around - it means you are personally responsible for the spread of the Wuhan coughing plague.

[Theodarzna]

Worse than Hitler this time around - it means you are personally responsible for the spread of the Wuhan coughing plague.

I'd personally only vote for Trump if I was a resident of the state of Massachusetts.

[Machismo]

I don't know if it's hitler to vote for Trump still or not, but I'm rapidly not caring. Like I'm quickly getting to the point where he seems to be doing fine and I don't see anyone else on the other side, so I'll probably vote Trump and if you want to come at me for it you can go pound sand.

Respectfully.

This is rather disingenuous of you. You've always been a Trump supporter, so pretending like you are suddenly warming to him is a blatant lie.

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Worse than Hitler this time around - it means you are personally responsible for the spread of the Wuhan coughing plague.

Nah, Trump is just a racist piece of shit and a rapist.

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I'd personally only vote for Trump if I was a resident of the state of Massachusetts.

You never actually said who you will be voting for... and I doubt you will admit to it now.

[Lenonis]

Does that mean all the non-voters actually voted for Trump in 2016 and that he won by an overwhelming majority?

Huh? Did you actually read what I wrote?

Such an adolescent way of looking at electoral politics that absolves the politician of all responsible for anything when they lose. I guess you need to set yourself for an excuse, but the fact so many are already making excuses tells me I was correct about Biden.

I'm not making excuses for Biden. In fact I've even said people may have reasons for not voting. What I'm pushing back on is this nonsense that people don't own any outcome of their decisions. That's not how life works.

I've also pushed back on this nonsense that having Trump win is a better choice for the progressive movement. That's just pants-on-head level of backward thinking.

[Telogrus]

Never said that. The trouble is that just because someone is being a hypocrite doesn't also mean they are wrong.

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Maybe don't both sides me when they aren't the same? Is it that fucking hard?

Problem is that if Biden supporters want to say that Bernie Bros’ toxic behavior was problematic, then they also have to agree that their own toxic behavior is problematic or else their beliefs don’t line up and it makes it look like they’re just trying to be opportunistic assholes who don’t really believe what they’re saying

[Machismo]

Problem is that if Biden supporters want to say that Bernie Bros’ toxic behavior was problematic, then they also have to agree that their own toxic behavior is problematic or else their beliefs don’t line up and it makes it look like they’re just trying to be opportunistic assholes who don’t really believe what they’re saying

You still haven't back up the claim that Biden supporters were discouraging Bernie supporters from voting for Biden.

[Lenonis]

Problem is that if Biden supporters want to say that Bernie Bros’ toxic behavior was problematic, then they also have to agree that their own toxic behavior is problematic or else their beliefs don’t line up and it makes it look like they’re just trying to be opportunistic assholes who don’t really believe what they’re saying

Sure. People shouldn't be problematic and toxic as a general rule. But even if all of Biden's supporters were jerks you are voting for Biden as a candidate, not his supporters. I've stated several times I didn't have a ton of issues with Bernie as a candidate (and one of which, his age, applies to Biden as well). I'd even have strongly considered voting for Bernie in the primary if it wasn't for Warren. (And also if it wasn't clearly who the winner was by the time my state rolled around).

[Ghostpanther]

I don't know if it's hitler to vote for Trump still or not, but I'm rapidly not caring. Like I'm quickly getting to the point where he seems to be doing fine and I don't see anyone else on the other side, so I'll probably vote Trump and if you want to come at me for it you can go pound sand.

Respectfully.

Lol! People should vote for whom they think is the best of the choices. I am not going to insult anyone for exercising a Constitutional right.

I for one certainly do not care what others think of me voting for him. They get too nasty about it on here, I just put them on ignore. Out in the public where I live? I wouldn't associate with those type of people anyway. Really easy to deal with.

[Jehct]

I like how Biden bros are like..

I hate Trump who touches women inappropriately.. but its ok when Biden does it.

I hate republicans who aren't ok with marriage equality.. but I'll vote for Biden who voted No.. then years later changed his mind when it would give him votes.

I hate Trump that rambles and speaks like he has mental problems.. But I'll vote for Biden.. 2nd fiddle..

I hate corporate cocksuckers.. but ill give in this time for Biden.

Man not sticking to your principles lol. Sad.

You are condoning everything Biden does by voting for him! I guess there are a lot of shitty people in this world. Voting Trump or Biden shows that.

[PC2]

I hate republicans who aren't ok with marriage equality.. but I'll vote for Biden who voted No.. then years later changed his mind when it would give him votes.

I hear that one all the time but it sounds backwards to me. If somebody sticks to their exact same principles for their whole life then they shouldn't be viewed as having integrity but instead as a dogmatic person. All I hear there is "Biden improved his policy position by not caring about a non-issue". IMO we should also avoid cynicism at all costs which includes thinking that everything is done ad hoc in order to gain power because it prevents the discussion from being about the merit of a policy position itself.

[JohnBrown1917]

I hear that one all the time but it sounds backwards to me. If somebody sticks to their exact same principles for their whole life then they shouldn't be viewed as having integrity but instead as a dogmatic person. All I hear there is "Biden improved his policy position by not caring about a non-issue". IMO we should also avoid cynicism at all costs which includes thinking that everything is done ad hoc in order to gain power because it prevents the discussion from being about the merit of a policy position itself.

Changing your view because its popular is different from changing your view because you realize you where in the wrong.
I wonder which one Biden, the most conservative democrat, is.

[lockedout]

Where is this proof of rape? A crazy woman who claims putin loves her and when she worked with joe Biden she got to do nothing and was just in the office feeling like a lamp?

Have you seen how he acts around children? Some of the videos are absolutely disgusting even the parents are creeped out.

[Machismo]

Have you seen how he acts around children? Some of the videos are absolutely disgusting even the parents are creeped out.

Yes, it is disgusting when Trump tries to sexualize his own daughters, I agree.

[lockedout]

Yes, it is disgusting when Trump tries to sexualize his own daughters, I agree.

Yeah I’m not a fan of that either.

[Machismo]

Yeah I’m not a fan of that either.

Maybe you should stop supporting Trump... just a thought.