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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Help Biden drop out, and we might get Warren or Bernie to run instead.
    You are not going to make Biden drop out, because that would be going against the vote of the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    How about Bloomberg?

    What about Buttigieg?

    Mark Cuban?
    Since betting odds were mentioned... the two highest bets are Cuomo and Clinton. Cuomo is pulling over 70% approval...

    Edit: FYI... any run off election for the DNC, get Cuomo the win. No Democrat is polling better... and Cuomo for President was trending a lot more than that Biden shit.

    Edit 2: Cuomo was my pick before candidates were announced. Be warned, if this does happen... I will try to convince you all, that I can see the future. I can almost hear tapping of keyboards to google how horrible Cuomo is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Help Biden drop out, and we might get Warren or Bernie to run instead.

    Biden is going to take tax payer money and hand it to Wall Street just as hard as Trump is.
    But, Biden got more votes... why do you hate democracy?

    Evidence, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You are not going to make Biden drop out, because that would be going against the vote of the people.

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    Since betting odds were mentioned... the two highest bets are Cuomo and Clinton. Cuomo is pulling over 70% approval...
    I'm sure Rochana would love for Hillary or Cuomo to get it, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    I don't. I want Democracy to win, that is why Bernie should run against Trump, not Biden.

    Evidence here: https://prospect.org/economy/biden-d...licy-advisers/
    Biden got more votes than Bernie... so you think Biden should be the nominee, right?

    You said he would:

    "Biden is going to take tax payer money and hand it to Wall Street just as hard as Trump is."

    Considering Trump's deficits and spending, I find that very difficult to achieve. Good luck with that one.

    If it's just about hatred of Biden, then surely you'd be happy with Cuban, Bloomberg, Hillary, Cuomo, or Buttigieg, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    I don't. I want Democracy to win, that is why Bernie should run against Trump, not Biden (an anti-democratic wall street shill).
    Wants democracy, demands public vote be reversed. Logical? I don’t think so... If there is a run off, you get Cuomo... sorry...

    I mean, we get Cuomo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    If it's just about hatred of Biden, then surely you'd be happy with Cuban, Bloomberg, Hillary, Cuomo, or Buttigieg, right?
    I don’t understand how he think Bernie would beat Cuomo right now... especially if the metric is “trending on Twitter”. How many times has Cuomo for president trend, than replace Biden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    That is just one of the many reasons why Biden should drop out.
    What do you like about Cuomo so much, that you want him to be the nominee?

    Edit: Divide and conquer failed? Back to the drawing board?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    ABC News: #DropOutBiden trending hard on twitter: https://abc14news.com/2020/04/25/dro...oo-supporters/

    He's fucked, no matter how you twist or turn this. His campaign is doomed. He isn't good for the future of the USA.

    CCN: Biden's campaign is Doomed: https://www.ccn.com/joe-biden-is-shi...se-hes-doomed/
    I thought after Bernie got dominated by Biden we had established that twitter is not real life

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    I thought after Bernie got dominated by Biden we had established that twitter is not real life
    If Twitter is, Cuomo is our next nominee... and I no longer look silly for picking him 2 years ago. Bernie doesn’t even win twitter anymore... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Anyone who kowtows to Wall Street instead of helping his voters is anti-democratic.

    That is just one of the many reasons why Biden should drop out.
    So, it's not that he's a terrible person, it's that he's a moderate Democrat.

    And yet, the Democrats picked him, which means they are not nearly as far to the left as Trumpsters claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I don’t understand how he think Bernie would beat Cuomo right now... especially if the metric is “trending on Twitter”. How many times has Cuomo for president trend, than replace Biden?

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    What do you like about Cuomo so much, that you want him to be the nominee?

    Edit: Divide and conquer failed? Back to the drawing board?
    Cuomo is doing damn well right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Cuomo is doing damn well right now.
    Yeah, thank that guy that doesn’t understand how betting works, for reminding me. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yeah, thank that guy that doesn’t understand how betting works, for reminding me. lol
    In the end, this just shows that it's always been "Bernie or Bust" about those guys.

    It's why the DNC doesn't pander to them, and it's why they are unreliable voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charasis View Post
    I would venture that after having two books in the library of Congress on the subject and being a six-figure winner lifetime from gambling I know a little about it...
    No, that just means you played WoW the whole time and learned nothing.

    There's a problem with removing those candidates from the betting. They may actually run. It is not likely but possible and the betting reflects it. You cannot ignore events with low probabilities when constructing odds.
    The problem with betting odds, is that they assume they will run. The reason you are pulling this shit, is because unlike polling, there are more options for democrats to split the options into 7, instead of the two for polling. Cheeky... don’t worry, I don’t think it’s malicious.

    So the Green candidate believes in nothing you do? That seems unlikely somehow.
    Who is the green candidate?

    According to betting, what are the odds Green Party candidate, will get my policy passed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charasis View Post
    I imagine it is something to do with the fact he offered some kind of leadership in a crisis.
    Incorrect, he doesn’t even know who a Cuomo is. Let’s see him prove me wrong...

    FYI, his rhetoric book, is very narrow... Cuomo probably doesn’t make the news in his country. He is more of a local hero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charasis View Post
    Uh? What?.
    My response to people on the internet, claiming some sort of authority, is to say they didn’t learn anything while obtaining said authority. It’s far less disruptive than arguing if you are honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charasis View Post
    I imagine it is something to do with the fact he offered some kind of leadership in a crisis.

    You'd think that is what leaders are supposed to do, but right now that makes him a cross between Stephen Hawking and Joan Of Arc, with a side of Nelson Mandela thrown in.
    Ah, yes, comparing an hardcore austerity liberal who cut healthcare in the middle of a pandemic to a anti-capitalist(Hawking) and a socialist(Mandela). That works just perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charasis View Post
    There are no assumptions made. If the candidate doesn't run you just lose your bet.
    That’s great... it splits the vote, which is why you are not using polling. No assumption needed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charasis View Post
    I learned how to win money at gambling by winning money at gambling.
    Luck happens... good for you? I just ran a marathon... won first place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charasis View Post
    Not that it is really relevant. The construction of a betting market is not up for debate, it is something any one can check by reading the terms and conditions of a bookmaker or betting exchange.
    No comment on it splitting the vote, which is why you are using it, instead of polling? What are the betting odds for a green candidate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    What is your opinion on Pelosi signing Trump's signature bills? Funding cages for kids and giving Trump more surveillance powers?
    Is Pelosi running for President?

    Oh, and could you provide evidence of all those, thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    What is your opinion on Pelosi signing Trump's signature bills? Funding cages for kids and giving Trump more surveillance powers?
    I expect you to ignore that Biden dropping out, will have Cuomo beat everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Is Pelosi running for President?

    Oh, and could you provide evidence of all those, thanks in advance.
    What are the odds that emergency declaration mechanism that Trump used to get most of his signature policy, was something Bernie supported and said would maintain as president? Wouldn’t that be a hoot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I expect you to ignore that Biden dropping out, will have Cuomo beat everyone.

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    What are the odds that emergency declaration mechanism that Trump used to get most of his signature policy, was something Bernie supported and said would maintain as president? Wouldn’t that be a hoot...
    That's why I look forward to Rochana providing those exact bills.

    I've noticed that whenever they get called out on their bullshit, they run away... and come back with new bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    It -is- the moral high ground, even if you wish to pretend it's not.
    There is no scenario in which letting a greater evil stay in power is the moral high ground. Sorry for the inconvenient truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Help Biden drop out
    Yeah, not going to happen. And why would we go with a candidate that can't get out the vote?
    Forum badass alert:
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charasis View Post
    This is one of the really off-putting things about the Democratic party: it is actually trying to match the Republicans for lunacy.
    This is all public knowledge that was established prior to the Senate report that came out last week.
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