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    Ok, I am out of this verbal WWE match. The Kayfabe is a little too strong, I feel like my time would be better spent sleeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Can you cut it out with this silly arbitrary scoring scheme that isn't based on anything but your opinion? Thanks.

    Twitter is that way.
    Thank you for this. Someone had to say it.

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    Stupid bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I said it before and will say it again: Wallace is a shitty moderator.

    The next debate the moderator needs to be given the ability to cut the candidates microphone when they interrupt. Of course that would mostly be Trump getting muted and the right wing would bitch about it.
    Unfortunately, that idea just fuels the outrage machine that is the Trump campaign.

    The traditional wisdom is "Let all the stupid opinions see the light of day, and they'll wither under any scrutiny." That wisdom is......well, been seriously debunked for a good section of our electorate. And I'm not sure it works any more. Maybe the Germans ARE right to say speech denying the Holocaust is illegal.

  5. #14785
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You agree with this?

    proud boys stand back and stand bye, but someone has to do something
    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Yeah no. Acting like a petulant child is not winning
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    - Someone who is only (claiming) they are voting for Biden because it is literally social suicide to admit to doing otherwise at this point.

    Being loud isn't winning at debating, hun.
    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    Trump is lying CONSTANTLY the fuck are you on about?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    No, that's just an argument.

    A debate is supposed to be structured, not 1 moron constantly talking over everyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    He's looking at the camera..

    Your head is too far up Trump's ass. I'm sorry you got stuck up there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Of course not, that would imply Trump is an equal. That would imply respect. Trump has none for Biden, why is it ALWAYS on the Democrats to be respectful?
    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Trump hasn't stated a single lie on the debate neither has Biden. A mistake perhaps but neither have lied. I am looking at several livestreams [ABC, CNN, CBS, CSPAN, etc] and all have comments majoriting Trump over Biden being the debate winner/dominant.
    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

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    How come when costs are brought up the rebuttal isn't, "money is meant to better lives not hoard, so the costs arent only worth it, they are necessary."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Nah. You could ignore it.
    Or, you could just acknowledge that party activists are not the target audience for these debates so applying that metric to them does nothing but further stoke a myth of nonexistent uncertainty in the choice.

    A milquetoast neoliberal is your candidate for 2020, get the fuck over it. The rest of us did.
    Last edited by Elegiac; 2020-09-30 at 02:30 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  8. #14788
    Quote Originally Posted by Valeron View Post
    They are but the reality is they are voting for Trump no matter how these debates go. Really, these debates aren't serving any purpose. I have a hard time believing there are any undecided voters out there.
    Of course they will Trump could drop nothing but the N-word, and they'd still be cheering him on.

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    Climate Change:

    Trump: he wants crystal clear water... doing great... haven’t destroyed business... Paris was a disaster... Businesses are doing great... forest management and raking... planting billion trees... better management of forests... “if it was cleaned”... “forest cities”... “trees that ignite easier”... cars are cheaper, double and triple cars sold... cars are cheaper... people can afford a car... cars have computers... (wtf?) Green Hew deal wants to rip down the buildings, two car systems are out, they want to take out the cows (wtf?) will cost 100 trillion... Russia, China and India send dirt into air... Trump claim Biden called military stupid bastards... Not supporting radical new deal will cost him radical liberals...

    Biden: brought down cost of clean energy... no one will build another coal or fuel plant... federal fleet ran on electrical... 500 charging station... new highways... building weatherised, to omit less hit and use less oil... Net 0 emissions by 2025, while creating better jobs... better jobs... rejoin Paris accord... Brazil forests destroyed, stats on Brazil... 20 billion world wide union to stop tearing down forest, or see sanctions... Trump wants to make sure mathain... will create good paying jobs... millions of good paying jobs and tax incentives... we will be in position for better jobs, while fixing the enviorment... we are in trouble... global warming... Back into Paris accord... he does not support the green new deal...
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
    Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Or, you could just acknowledge that party activists are not the target audience for these debates so applying that metric to them does nothing but further stokes a nonexistent myth of uncertainty in the choice.

    A milquetoast neoliberal is your candidate for 2020, get the fuck over it. The rest of us did.
    A Milquetoast Neoliberal who's willing to work with socialists for the betterment of mankind, i may add
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  11. #14791
    Trump keeps saying that Biden, "has lost the radical left" after making statement. This is, in fact, Trump hoping that if he says his wishes out loud that they will come true. LOL.

  12. #14792
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Trump hasn't stated a single lie on the debate neither has Biden. A mistake perhaps but neither have lied. I am looking at several livestreams [ABC, CNN, CBS, CSPAN, etc] and all have comments majoriting Trump over Biden being the debate winner/dominant.
    Please, tell me more about how you support Biden...

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ampaign-Thread

    Nobody believes you.

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    Terrific answer by Joe. Vote!

    Trump - word salad. He was actually doing ok until now.

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    Match point. Biden opened strong and should be an easy win. Trump has no ground anything related to integrity.

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    Wow - Trump sounds insane with this final answer.

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    I went into this thinking it wouldn't make much of a difference. Now, I think this will end up getting Biden more votes. Not only did Trump not do anything to pull new voters to his side, but he gave folks like the Lincoln Project a lot of ammunition.

  17. #14797
    Biden absolutely crushed Trump tonight.

    I just can't imagine being a gown man and thinking Trump is anything other then a senile old whiney bitch.

    But easiest take away of the night is that the biggest loser of the debate by far is Chis Wallace and the disaster that is the Right-Wing FEE FEE based media sphere. Hopefully Joe would take this to heart and shut down all fake news right-wing media outlets once he's president. Or at least start with people who's lawyers argue in court that they are fake news (Tucker).

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    “Proud boys stand by”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    Trump keeps saying that Biden, "has lost the radical left" after making statement. This is, in fact, Trump hoping that if he says his wishes out loud that they will come true. LOL.
    So, Biden is simultaneously "radical left" himself and losing the "radical left" as supporters?

    Can Trump stop lying and/or at least make his lies logically consistent with each other?

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    Biden: Go out and vote, you have the power. We'll accept the results, you decide.

    Trump: THERE ARE BALLOTS IN THE CREEK AND BIDEN SPIED ON ME WHILE I WAS GOING DOWN THE ESCLATOR WITH OUR LOVELY FIRST LADY AND FRAUD

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