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And again, Biden has had a 6-8 point lead for months, and that's not going awayOriginally Posted by Elegiac
Prove it.
"2016" isn't an answer, because Biden isn't Hillary despite your best efforts at claiming as such.
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2020-09-30, 03:38 AM #14981Immortal
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It's really fuckin' obvious that someone in Trump's debate prep team told him to try and attack Biden on the "he's weak with progressives" angle but it hasn't actually stuck with anyone but the concern trolls who were going to write in Tulsi anyway. Originally Posted by Felya
And Milchshake pointed this point; Biden's handling of Trump here is immediately recognizable to any woman in this country. Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
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2020-09-30, 03:39 AM #14983Void Lord
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No, but I also don’t think supporting medicare for all, when Trump’s whole campaign is running against it... with him getting 0 pushback from even progressives, means it’s a good idea... Originally Posted by Coffeh
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He was literally repeating every single one of their talking point... the only one he stayed away from, is Reade... I wonder why... Originally Posted by Elegiac
Oh and remember the long argument I had about America... Not a peep from people disagreeing with me, with Trump claiming that US schools teach that America is a killer... who do they think he was talking about?Last edited by Felya; 2020-09-30 at 03:42 AM.
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2020-09-30, 03:40 AM #14984Void Lord
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Yeah, Trump sure leaned on the "if you vote for Biden, things will be even worse" button, didn't he? Millions dead with COVID, for example. And to the rest of your point, it was between five and ten times Trump said someone else's plan was Biden's when that was just factually false. At one point, he said Biden wanted to ban cows. Originally Posted by Felya
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2020-09-30, 03:42 AM #14985Immortal
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The women vote is the most important demographic here. And Biden tailored his debate to appeal to them Originally Posted by Elegiac
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2020-09-30, 03:43 AM #14986Herald of the Titans
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I can't imagine that debate changed any minds tbh. Trump was loud, abrasive and stupid. The word my mom used to describe Biden was "frail" and I kind of see it but it's also hard to seem like anything else when you have a big orange dumbass yelling in your ear for an hour. I feel like the fact that the TV hosts are acting shocked that the debate went how it did is a testament to how little they actually pay attention because there was literally nothing shocking about that debate.
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2020-09-30, 03:43 AM #14987Scarab Lord
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I'm convinced they told him to literally just attack everything. Biden is both the guy who supports armed mobs and the guy who wrote the crime bill. Biden wants to take your healthcare but also Biden is losing progressives because he won't take your healthcare. Biden wouldn't do as much as I did to solve COVID but also he'd shut the whole country down. Biden would tax us all to negative income but also the only reason I didn't pay tax was because of Biden's tax laws. I'll condemn white supremacy but also white supremacists should stand ready. Originally Posted by Elegiac
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2020-09-30, 03:43 AM #14988Void Lord
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No comment from “No this election is not a referendum on Row v Wade”... let me guess... Win for Trump?
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Biden routinely turned away from Trump and addressed America directly. Originally Posted by Thepersona
I don't think Trump did that once.
That should tell you everything you need to know.
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2020-09-30, 03:44 AM #14990Legendary!
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Well, if he's going to ramble and spout the garbage word salad he did tonight, then don't take him off whatever they gave him beforehand. Originally Posted by PACOX
Just don't reply to me. Please. If you can help it.
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2020-09-30, 03:45 AM #14991Pandaren Monk
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He didn't ask the question. The moderator did. And why people are trying to defend a candidate who refuses to answer questions is beyond me. THIS is why politics are in the state they're in: NOBODY holds their candidates to any kind of standard. All that matter is he's on your team, so he can do no wrong. Republics and Democrats both do this. And the politicians know this. If Republicans actually held their candidates to some kind of standard we wouldn't have a psychopath like Trump in the White House. If Liberals actually held their candidates to some kind of standard we wouldn't have senile dementia-riddled fossils as our candidate. Originally Posted by Sunseeker
The only one who actually cares about the American people was Sanders and the Democratic party screwed him over not once, but twice. Just goes to show the party leaders don't want change. They don't want what's best for the country or for the people. They want to just continue the same scam they've been running for decades and decades. And not to be rude, but this party politics mentality is what's letting them do it. All that matters to so many voters like yourself is US vs. THEM. My team vs. the other team. Defeat the enemy at whatever the cost! And then you wonder why actually solving problems and addressing issues don't take place. Because that's not what wins elections. Getting people riled up and pitting them against each other does. Pull your head out of the sand.
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2020-09-30, 03:45 AM #14992Merely a Setback
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He tried, at the beginning, and then clearly realized that was a fucking stupid tactic. Originally Posted by Breccia
Biden talking to US while ignoring Trump was perfect.Star Trek teaches us that if we work together, we can accomplish anything. Star Wars teaches us that sometimes violence is necessary against an oppressive government. Both are valuable lessons.
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Trump refuses to denounce white supremacy, says 'stand back and stand by' on Proud Boys movement Originally Posted by Grapemask
Wanna see the video?Trump refused to denounce white supremacy during an intense debate with Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden Tuesday night.
“Almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing,” Trump said when directly asked to denounce white supremacists and militia groups who have aligned themselves with him.
Trump asked moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News to “give me a name,” then Biden chimed in and noted the Proud Boys, a group that the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated as a hate group.
The Proud Boys describe themselves as “a pro-Western fraternal organization for men who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world; aka Western Chauvinists” and have been tied to violent protests, often in support of the president.
“Proud Boys — stand back and stand by,” Trump said Tuesday night.
Trump then moved attention to the left-wing anti-fascist movement known as antifa.
“Somebody has got to do something about antifa and the left because this isn’t a right-wing problem, this is a left-wing problem,” Trump said.
Biden then noted that FBI Director Christopher Wray has said antifa is not a formal organization, but an ideology.
“Well then, you know what, he’s wrong,” Trump said of Wray.
Trump was asked point-blank to denounce white nationalists. He never did.
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They need to give the moderator mic power.
they get 2 minutes. moderator can give them a few more seconds but at 2:15 he red buttons their mic.
I can't believe this child is our president, sigh.Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
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2020-09-30, 03:46 AM #14995Merely a Setback
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Oh yeah it's always the liberals fault for not holding their candidates to any standards. Those darn dirty liberals, if only they hadn't fielded a well spoken, well educated, well liked black man, then Republicans wouldn't have resorted to a reality TV star! DARN THOSE LIBERALS!! Originally Posted by Coffeh
Piss off.Star Trek teaches us that if we work together, we can accomplish anything. Star Wars teaches us that sometimes violence is necessary against an oppressive government. Both are valuable lessons.
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He did? I must have missed that. I know Trump did answer some questions facing the camera, but I legit don't remember Trump saying "Hey you America" barring being the second person to say "yes go vote" 80 minutes in. Originally Posted by Sunseeker
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Yeah. The point is. I'm very fearful of the last word salad Trump spouted, pertaining the election results and his refusal to accept that said results wont be there on november 3rd Originally Posted by Breccia
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The real and only winners tonight. Well other than Joe. Originally Posted by Breccia
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Strap it to their balls... don’t mute the mic... let us hear them scream... Originally Posted by Zan15
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2020-09-30, 03:49 AM #15000Merely a Setback
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Oh no I meant Biden tried to address Trump like an adult for like, a minute and then clearly realized Trump is not one of those things. Originally Posted by Breccia
Star Trek teaches us that if we work together, we can accomplish anything. Star Wars teaches us that sometimes violence is necessary against an oppressive government. Both are valuable lessons.
Just, be kind.
