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    I want the last 2 hours of my life back.

    I feel stupider for having watched that.

    I did like that Biden was taking absolutely no shit about his son Beau's military service though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    It's "Roe" like "Doe."
    He's posting from an autocorrectPhone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    I mean, I wish that were true. But I'm sure that about 35% of the viewing audience is rock-solid in their belief that Trump was the more Presidential Candidate tonight. He could take a shit on the floor and these people would marvel at how it enhances the environment.
    He appealed to conspiracy theorist and those who were leaning against Bernie policy... his goal seems to be to scare people of Medicare for all and defunding the police... making progressives a pariah, then forcing Biden to defend progressive policy he just demonized, instead of his own. Basically, scare away the undecided voters from Biden and at the same time discourage progressives from voting, hoping it’s enough to swing the democrat advantage in registered voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    If anyone took shots for each lie Trump said they'd probably be dead after the first half hour.
    I will make a drinking game for next debate. I will try to not die from alcohol poisoning
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    You keep misspelling the name of one of the most important SCOTUS cases of the last 100 years and it hurts me. It's "Roe" like "Doe."
    Blame autocorrect... I just punch random keys and see what happens...

    My point stands though... I’ve gotten more comments on my spelling, than the actual comment from Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    He appealed to conspiracy theorist and those who were leaning against Bernie policy... his goal seems to be to scare people of Medicare for all and defunding the police... making progressives a pariah, then forcing Biden to defend progressive policy he just demonized, instead of his own. Basically, scare away the undecided voters from Biden and at the same time discourage progressives from voting, hoping it’s enough to swing the democrat advantage in registered voters.
    And Biden did not take the bait. He gracefully danced around dotard tang
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  7. #15027
    Honestly, this debate was everything I expected. The lunacy, insanity and outright babbling. And then there was Joe. I have a feeling that after this one, Trump won't want to do another one as he was told to shut up multiple times. In the morning, he will probably claim "They were being unfair and rude and I'll want no part of it and they forced me to be on!" even though he was the one who wanted them in the first place.

  8. #15028
    https://theweek.com/speedreads/94061...te-focus-group

    Republican consultant and pollster Frank Luntz asked his focus group to use one word to describe the president and basically "every single word was negative," observed Politico's Tim Alberta. One respondent from Wisconsin called Trump obnoxious and un-presidential, while a Pennsylvania voter said he behaved like a "crackhead." Others described the president as being "un-American" and "arrogant."
    Fucking hell I hope that my earlier post is wrong and there's a rather sizable swing for Biden if this is remotely indicative of any remaining "undecideds".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    I will make a drinking game for next debate. I will try to not die from alcohol poisoning
    I was riding high on painkillers through most of it, but man I woulda preferred to be drinking. I'm making up for that now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    And Biden did not take the bait. He gracefully danced around dotard tang
    My main concern is that "I don't support the Green New Deal" will be the soundbite, and "I support the Biden Plan, which will generate millions of new jobs in clean energy and American manufacturing" will be completely forgotten, just like Hillary's comments about retraining coal miners for new economy careers.
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    i saw some people saying this is the worst thing they have seen on american tv which is a bit rich from the country that gave us 3 seasons of young sheldon

  12. #15032
    Trump's strategy to label Joe a secret agent of the far left was so hopelessly ineffective...

    Trump: "He can't even say Law Enforcement"

    Biden: "Law Enforcement."

    Trump: "He just lost the left!"

    ... Really? This is what you're going with?

    Biden is standing right there and can literally directly refute every false claim about his support for 1) antifa, 2) the green new deal, 3) violence, etc etc. This nonsense only tracks in the dumbest of right wing facebook group echo chambers.

  13. #15033
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    i saw some people saying this is the worst thing they have seen on american tv which is a bit rich from the country that gave us 3 seasons of young sheldon
    Eh, not as bad as The Real World and its 5 million offshoots.

  14. #15034
    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    I will make a drinking game for next debate. I will try to not die from alcohol poisoning
    never mind, me just being stupid.....and wrong..sorry
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    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    I was riding high on painkillers through most of it, but man I woulda preferred to be drinking. I'm making up for that now...
    I still have half of my litre of pisco (its around as strong as whisky) so... Well, i think if it's still there, a quarter will go down to a very wasted and fearful Latino.
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  16. #15036
    I watched the debate on CNN. Saw a bit of the commentary afterword's. The debate itself didn't surprise me, what surprised me was how even Rick Santorum claimed how badly Trump failed tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviscero View Post
    Trump's strategy to label Joe a secret agent of the far left was so hopelessly ineffective...

    Trump: "He can't even say Law Enforcement"

    Biden: "Law Enforcement."

    Trump: "He just lost the left!"

    ... Really? This is what you're going with?

    Biden is standing right there and can literally directly refute every false claim about his support for 1) antifa, 2) the green new deal, 3) violence, etc etc. This nonsense only tracks in the dumbest of right wing facebook group echo chambers.
    Honestly for all of Trump's interrupting, Trump did the worst when Joe could just jump right in, even if Joe wasn't very good at that. Giving Trump 2 free minutes just let him build up a head of steam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    He's posting from an autocorrectPhone.
    "Roe" is also a word, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://theweek.com/speedreads/94061...te-focus-group



    Fucking hell I hope that my earlier post is wrong and there's a rather sizable swing for Biden if this is remotely indicative of any remaining "undecideds".
    Im going to call a 1-3% swing in Biden's favor over the next two weeks of polling. This is of course based solely on my gut, and absolutely zero quantitative modelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviscero View Post
    Trump's strategy to label Joe a secret agent of the far left was so hopelessly ineffective...

    Trump: "He can't even say Law Enforcement"

    Biden: "Law Enforcement."

    Trump: "He just lost the left!"

    ... Really? This is what you're going with?

    Biden is standing right there and can literally directly refute every false claim about his support for 1) antifa, 2) the green new deal, 3) violence, etc etc. This nonsense only tracks in the dumbest of right wing facebook group echo chambers.
    According to some self proclaimed progressives, it worked on them.
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