Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Thepersona]

i was 3 days deep with no chocolate. blew that big time needed my comfort food.
vending machine has been hit hard tonight here mostly for shit to mix drinks with.

its amazing how many people at work who have a ready suppy of liquor in their vehicles. guess working night shifts.......they come prepared

(Drinking) Alcohol is a very necessary item in this trying times, i will say.

[Antiganon]

Ahhh... Progressives... Fucking everything up, and enabling fascists since the 1930s...

They didn't show up in the primaries either. We're not counting on them.

I take personal offense at this. I consider myself about as far left as you can go (I am in favor of a 99% top marginal tax rate, and even as a middle class worker I would be fine paying 75% or more assuming the government provided commensurate services like UBI/housing assistance/public transit/public education/etc).

I voted for Bernie/Hillary in 2016, and couldn't vote in the primary (because CT rescheduled from April to July, and Biden already had the nomination), but would have voted for Bernie this year, and I'll be voting for Biden (at the polls, because fuck those Proud Boy shitholes and their voter intimidation bullshit, I will not be cowed) on November 3.

[Zan15]

6) Trump bragged about the stock market. He has a better percentage increase than Obama's second term, but not his first.

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No he doesn't not even close
Obama's 2nd term was better than the 1st, and Trump is crushed in the sp500 by 2x.


https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/sto...e-by-president
https://www.macrotrends.net/2482/sp5...e-by-president

[Antiganon]

2) Biden said 1 in 1,000 African-Americans have died to COVID-19 -- fucking ouch, I'd never seen that one -- and that rate would be 1 in 500 if Trump wins. A study backs the first claim but there's no study suggesting the second.

The quote was "If we don't wear masks and follow the guidelines" it will be 1 in 500. This is based on projections that the total number of deaths will double by the end of the year, assuming the same demographic breakdown in mortality rates.

[beanman12345]

By the way, those are just the ones PolitiFact didn't cover. The list is actually longer. Fact checks are everywhere, if you choose to look for them.

Don't even need to look. I just believe everything trump says is pants on fire, the only thing i think he is honest is his love for the proud boys.

[Thepersona]

I take personal offense at this. I consider myself about as far left as you can go (I am in favor of a 99% top marginal tax rate, and even as a middle class worker I would be fine paying 75% or more assuming the government provided commensurate services like UBI/housing assistance/public transit/public education/etc).

I voted for Bernie/Hillary in 2016, and couldn't vote in the primary (because CT rescheduled from April to July, and Biden already had the nomination), but would have voted for Bernie this year, and I'll be voting for Biden (at the polls, because fuck those Proud Boy shitholes and their voter intimidation bullshit, I will not be cowed) on November 3.

Oh no worries, i was talking to the idiots who use purity tests for everything, acting holier than thou (and believe me, we have a ton of em here in my country) while right wing fascists ram through with any human rights violations they can.
I'm also in favor of a 99% marginal... Nah, i'm in favor of sending those rich assholes and the GOP bootlickers to a gulag in Alaska, alongside every rich asshole in the world that we can find (and hoo boy, i'd love to see the big mining assholes there).

[Breccia]

"Roe" is also a word, though.

Yeah but we can't be caviar about checking other people's spelling.

The quote was "If we don't wear masks and follow the guidelines" it will be 1 in 500. This is based on projections that the total number of deaths will double by the end of the year, assuming the same demographic breakdown in mortality rates.

Okay, that's valid. The link I quoted didn't catch that.

[Gestopft]

Like I said earlier, fact-checks of the debates are everywhere if you actually look rather than cover your ears LALALALA I AM NOT LISTENING TO JEFFREY.
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By the way, those are just the ones PolitiFact didn't cover. The list is actually longer. Fact checks are everywhere, if you choose to look for them.

Can't we just look at the list of true things that Trump said? I'm sure it would take much less time to compile.

[Antiganon]

Okay, that's valid. The link I quoted didn't catch that.

I had the misfortune of watching it live.

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Can't we just look at the list of true things that Trump said? I'm sure it would take much less time to compile.

You'd have to parse it, which would be difficult, because most of his comments were while Biden was speaking.

[kaelleria]

I take personal offense at this. I consider myself about as far left as you can go (I am in favor of a 99% top marginal tax rate, and even as a middle class worker I would be fine paying 75% or more assuming the government provided commensurate services like UBI/housing assistance/public transit/public education/etc).

I voted for Bernie/Hillary in 2016, and couldn't vote in the primary (because CT rescheduled from April to July, and Biden already had the nomination), but would have voted for Bernie this year, and I'll be voting for Biden (at the polls, because fuck those Proud Boy shitholes and their voter intimidation bullshit, I will not be cowed) on November 3.

I'm talking about the so called progressives you were talking about earlier. They're the same ones that didn't show up on Super Tuesday.

[beanman12345]

I take personal offense at this. I consider myself about as far left as you can go (I am in favor of a 99% top marginal tax rate, and even as a middle class worker I would be fine paying 75% or more assuming the government provided commensurate services like UBI/housing assistance/public transit/public education/etc).

I voted for Bernie/Hillary in 2016, and couldn't vote in the primary (because CT rescheduled from April to July, and Biden already had the nomination), but would have voted for Bernie this year, and I'll be voting for Biden (at the polls, because fuck those Proud Boy shitholes and their voter intimidation bullshit, I will not be cowed) on November 3.

I'm with ya except I did vote for Bernie, even though Biden already had it locked up. As I said, turnout is massive this year already, and well, 2008 was the highest turnout in 40 years, we got our first black president. 2016 was the lowest in 20 years and we got trump. Concern trolls playing progressive on MMO-C are not something I'm worried about. As long as turnout is high, we're good.

[Logwyn]

I had the misfortune of watching it live.
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Was it a total waste of time, money, and resources?

Too bad that the media portrays these two as the only choices.

[Zaydin]

Well, consensus seems to be that the debate did not go well for Trump. Which is bad for him considering he's losing badly right now and he direly needed the debate to try and turn things around for him and from all accounts he failed to do that.

[Themius]

So he’s inciting terrorism and they received the message

[Felya]

better known as a very online Bernie Bro with a history of poor life choices?

Trump is antithetical to every progressive position, not voting for Biden should not be an option for any true progressive.

I think very few of them are genuine... I can’t believe it otherwise... it makes no sense...

[Antiganon]

I'm talking about the so called progressives you were talking about earlier. They're the same ones that didn't show up on Super Tuesday.

Ah ok.

I've known a few of those. One of my coworkers at my last job (thanks COVID!) was an organizer for the local Green Party, about as progressive as you can go, and was determined not to support Biden even if he won the nomination due to his support for the Iraq War.

Of course we live in Connecticut, so sending our 7 EVs to Biden is all but guaranteed regardless.

[Benggaul]

Yeah but we can't be caviar about checking other people's spelling.

Look, I don't want to egg you on but that pun was a bit fishy. It wasn't on the scale of your usual offerings, which I relish.

I apologize for this OT derailment; it doesn't really spawn much discussion.

[Breccia]

Can't we just look at the list of true things that Trump said? I'm sure it would take much less time to compile.

I thought about that. Thing is, I refuse to give Trump any credit for saying "the sky is blue".

I'm sure there are some members of the rabid fanbase who will leap to Trump's defense, but I'm specifically citing specific fact checks, and as you've seen, they are disproportionately "Trump lied far more often than Biden and far more blatantly". That's good enough for me. It's like asking if I care how many bullets fired by police officers didn't hit anything, versus how many they fired into unarmed civilians.

[Antiganon]

Was it a total waste of time, money, and resources?

Time yes, money no (I watched it on YouTube), and resources are dependent on whether you consider Sanity a resource IRL.

Too bad that the media portrays these two as the only choices.

Until the US (or at least a majority of states) eliminate FPTP and institute a Ranked Choice system, they effectively are the only two choices. One of them will win the Presidency, individual preferences for a more liberal candidate be damned.

[Felya]

So he’s inciting terrorism and they received the message

Note... Wallace didn’t say Proud Boys... Trump volunteered that, when asked to denounce white supremisist. And for some reason, autocorrect thinks I meant “Americans” instead of supremacist... not cool Apple... not cool...