1. #15241
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    had he said KKK Trump has already in the past condemned them and all racists.
    Yet he completely failed to denounce white supremacism and instead emboldened a far right wing White Nationalist "Race Realist" Racists/White Supremacist group.

    He didnt say the KKK or white supremecists.
    Chris Wallace definitely said White Supremacist and right wing militias.

    They are for the most part just pro nationalism
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    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Trump won the debate and heres why. Did his base and anyone who voted for him last time expect anything less than this? No. He did exactly as expected and more than likely what most wanted to see. Trump called him out on a few things that Biden couldnt answer for or deflected. Green new deal... his website says he supports it and he said he didnt. Medicare for all... avoided the question and basically said we will expand obamacare. He had no answer when Trump said he and his friends if they raise taxes will just leave what will they do then. Biden no answer again. Trump hit him on the campaign spying and Biden looked like a deer in head lights. Look if you were a former Trump voter who like me voted for an asshole to take down the establishment croanies who have been there for over 40 years you got what you expected. Look if you didnt know this was Trump and this entertaining beat down was what to expect then you have been under a rock for the last 4 years. All his supporters and many independents expected this. If you want a soft well spoken president then you were never going to vote for trump anyway
    Agreed with most of that.

    Oh and by the way... Mark Dice has weighed in.


  3. #15243
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I'm disappointed the rest of the world waited as long as they did. When it was clear we had 300 pounds of temper tantrum in a 200 pound Chinese suit running the show, they should have collectively closed all the doors and shut us out for four years.
    Hope is hard to kill, even with reality.

    They haven't been sat on there thumbs though EU news other than brexit is all about the EU and building an EU super power in a post america world order.

    The UK news post brexit is focused on trying for CANZUK and greater ties with the far East.

    China is laughing because its belt an road or belts and iron rod is going almost unopposed now.

    And Russia is being its usual self.

    No one is looking at america seriously atm geopolitical except as a unknown element atm.


    When I say this is the most important election in decades for america i mean it, this election will dictate how the world moves forward with or without america and dictates the power dynamics for decades to come.

    Every one just take 5 or 10 mins today to go and read the news around the rest of the world and whats going on. It will put alot of context on what I'm saying.
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  4. #15244
    Proud boys aren't really racist, they're just white nationalists. What's the harm with that? So what if we want an ethnostate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Chris Wallace definitely said White Supremacist and right wing militias.
    I don’t recall Wallace saying Proud Boys, but Trump was yelling over him, so it might have happened. Did you hear it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Proud boys aren't really racist, they're just white nationalists. What's the harm with that? So what if we want an ethnostate?
    Hey, apropos of nothing did you know that the Proud Boys take their name from a cut song from Disney's Aladdin which is mildly hilarious because it is literally like the gayest song in the score.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  7. #15247
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I don’t recall Wallace saying Proud Boys, but Trump was yelling over him, so it might have happened. Did you hear it?
    Even if he did or didn't say proud boys, Trump didn't denounce them. He told them to standby.

  8. #15248
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Very well said. There are things about Trump I do not like. But I am not voting for his personality, as I have posted before.
    Oh look, Trumpsters ignoring everyone else obliterating their arguments, just to come to the aid of eachother shitty takes
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    It's odd that they chose their name from a film about a poor Muslim boy who steals apples and romances a teenage Princess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post

    Oh and by the way... Mark Dice has weighed in.
    Holly shit... even for Mark Dice, saying Trump is a child and how he never stuck to policy, or said anything substantive is interesting. Even calling out Trump for a proud boys call to arms and his vote watchers.

    Don’t click that video... I summarized it... watch this instead:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    It's odd that they chose their name from a film about a poor Muslim boy who steals apples and romances a teenage Princess.
    Doubly odd because said song is quite well known in musical theatre circles to be code for a closeted gay boy singing to his mother, as said. Lol.

    He's a boy that doesn't fit in trying to hide who he truly is to gain social acceptance and the moral of the story is that happiness requires living authentically, like....Yeah. Kinda obvious really.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Oh look, Trumpsters ignoring everyone else obliterating their arguments, just to come to the aid of eachother shitty takes
    Based on the OP's description of his lifestyle, it's possible he/she was in them golf carts driving around their timeshare compound and screaming 'white power'. Maybe, maybe not. I've heard some things. It could happen. I'm not saying it did, but people are saying they were.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Doubly odd because said song is quite well known in musical theatre circles to be code for a closeted gay boy singing to his mother, as said. Lol.

    He's a boy that doesn't fit in trying to hide who he truly is to gain social acceptance and the moral of the story is that happiness requires living authentically, like....Yeah. Kinda obvious really.
    Who'd have thought that a group of white nationalist men have latent homosexual tendencies. Not that it's an issue. Just embrace it, boys.

  13. #15253
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I don’t recall Wallace saying Proud Boys, but Trump was yelling over him, so it might have happened. Did you hear it?
    https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/...950260737?s=20
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  14. #15254
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Based on the OP's description of his lifestyle, it's possible he/she was in them golf carts driving around their timeshare compound and screaming 'white power'. Maybe, maybe not. I've heard some things. It could happen. I'm not saying it did, but people are saying they were.



    Who'd have thought that a group of white nationalist men have latent homosexual tendencies. Not that it's an issue. Just embrace it, boys.
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  15. #15255
    Quote Originally Posted by Warning View Post
    Mostly agreed yes. I think one of the strongest parts of Biden was when he abandoned trying to argue the idiotic shit Trump made up about his son, and refocused the discussion on what actually mattered to the people they're both meant to serve. It seemed to me like he was the only one who even mentioned the American people. Trump has a fragile ego so he cannot do the same, and it shows why he's unfit to lead.
    The best aspect for Biden, is that Trump looked like the addled dementia patient, so all the bullshit pushed by the Trumpsters can simply be redirected back to the debate.

  16. #15256
    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Get your shit together America, and vote the orange buffoon out
    I'm British. Don't look at me. We've got our own problem with the Tory Supremacy.

  17. #15257
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Trump won the debate and heres why. Did his base and anyone who voted for him last time expect anything less than this? No. He did exactly as expected and more than likely what most wanted to see. Trump called him out on a few things that Biden couldnt answer for or deflected. Green new deal... his website says he supports it and he said he didnt. Medicare for all... avoided the question and basically said we will expand obamacare. He had no answer when Trump said he and his friends if they raise taxes will just leave what will they do then. Biden no answer again. Trump hit him on the campaign spying and Biden looked like a deer in head lights. Look if you were a former Trump voter who like me voted for an asshole to take down the establishment croanies who have been there for over 40 years you got what you expected. Look if you didnt know this was Trump and this entertaining beat down was what to expect then you have been under a rock for the last 4 years. All his supporters and many independents expected this. If you want a soft well spoken president then you were never going to vote for trump anyway
    Then, he didn't win...

    He could have literally taken a shit on stage, and yelled, "Heil Trump" and his base would have loved it.

    Trump. Couldn't. Condemn. White. Supremacy.

  18. #15258
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Even if he did or didn't say proud boys, Trump didn't denounce them. He told them to standby.
    Proud Boys have supported White Nationalist "Race Realists" which is just another word for White Supremacy either way they're a Racist hate group with allies like Laura Loomer and Milo Yiannopoulos with various ties to White Nationalists and Trump refused to denounce white supremacy.

    Last edited by szechuan; 2020-09-30 at 02:10 PM.
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  19. #15259
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Then, he didn't win...

    He could have literally taken a shit on stage, and yelled, "Heil Trump" and his base would have loved it.

    Trump. Couldn't. Condemn. White. Supremacy.
    Trump will not, can not condemn his base.
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    I was right... they misquoted Wallace in that quote... Wallace said White Nationalist Militia... Trump called Proud Boys white supremacy...
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