Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Edge-]

i keep forgetting you guys have the whole minute men fantasy thing going on still in areas.

Yeah, it's dumb as shit and it's a weird-ass fuckin hobby. But, it's Constitutionally protected for better or worse, and we have people that think that Constitution written over 200 years ago is PERFECT and that provisions made for the defense of a new nation with no standing army are still totes applicable in the 21st century when we've got tanks and hypersonic jets and cruise missiles that can travel hundreds of kilometers.

[Breccia]

This is what they should do for the next ones (if they even go ahead):

Biden already committed, but that's just for show. Both sides are assumed to go until they publicly say they won't.

As I keep saying, Trump bailing would be suicide. Simply put, you saw his "HURR DURR STRONG MAN YELLS" attitude and that's deflated like a Trump property value if he bails on the next two.

Oh, and Biden never took a drug test, and he never had his ears searched. Fatty fatty two-by-four demanded changes, they didn't happen, and he showed up anyhow. He's already a loser. What a joke.

[Zan15]

I did not say he was the winner overall. I do not think there was a winner when it comes to making anyone change their vote.

Trump failed to make it clear his stance on some topics. But this question about white supremacists, he already has condemned it, officially.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/tr...-supremacists/

Aug. 14, 2017, SNIP
Trump, Aug. 14, 2017: SNIP

LOL 2017.

got something a little more recent that represents his views and stance after all the shits that gone down since 2017??

Sure sounds like you are backed into a corner of "well what trump meant to say...."

[masterhorus8]

Yeah, it's dumb as shit and it's a weird-ass fuckin hobby. But, it's Constitutionally protected for better or worse, and we have people that think that Constitution written over 200 years ago is PERFECT and that provisions made for the defense of a new nation with no standing army are still totes applicable in the 21st century when we've got tanks and hypersonic jets and cruise missiles that can travel hundreds of kilometers.

*Ahem*

Hydrosonic super-duper missiles.

[Edge-]

*Ahem*

Hydrosonic super-duper missiles.

POWERED BY GOD DAMNED STEAM

Probably.

[Monster Hunter]

Reminder of some information about the proud bois, this is a NBC reporter and this is true -



This is the group Trump gave a shoutout to. A group that oddly discourages masturbation for whatever reason (who gives a shit?) and will only "promote" you if you assault libs.

Donald Trump is a white supremacist, authoritarian who actively encourages violence and felonious behavior by his supporters.

it actualy says alot about there internal belief structure tbh.

also means ill never be a member haha my junks mine and ill do with it as i please, that and i dont like tattoos.

[Felya]

Well, as a brit, A) you should be used to that given the (oh I'll be nice) "spirited" discussions that take place in Parliament and B) I don't find your opinion all that relevant since you're not participating in this election.

Uhm... to compare what Trump did to parliamentary debate is amazing... Do you even believe England exists?

[PhaelixWW]

Well this is an interesting development...

[Zan15]

My take on the debate is best expressed by Doug Schoen. A Fox news political analyst ( democrat, who worked with the Bill Clinton administration ) who will vote for Biden and is no supporter of Trump....

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/firs...ce-doug-schoen

"The first presidential debate between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden has concluded. Following the night, the biggest takeaway is that there were no surprises, and nothing happened that will change any attitudes, cause either candidate to gain or lose any votes, or move any undecided voters one way or the other.

Indeed, while the debate was contentious, and at times became personal, it lacked any real substance that could change attitudes in any meaningful way.

Given the level of back-and-forth between the candidates, the substance of the candidates’ answers was often lost and took a back seat to their style of argumentation and command of the room.

Though, in terms of style, in my view, President Trump was the clear winner—Trump was in command of the conversation, in control of the discussion, and if not presidential, certainly more in command."

But Biden did well I think, And Trump failed to express himself well enough on some topics. Both candidates interrupted each other and Trump was the worse about that.

Overall, it was a draw and the winner or loser is going to depend on who you ask.

This kind of response is because you didn't listen to a word Biden was saying and you made excuses for everything Trump said.

No one expected any different of you.

"in command". No the dude would not shut the fuck up.
The leader of the free world could not handle a simple debate and its rules. Pathetic. Embarrassing. Childish.

[Felya]

Hm, no.

If someone does not adhere to the "corporate Democratic" party-line on this forum you get a bunch of users who will start bullying and outright insulting them, without the moderators doing anything about it. So yeah, that is why I probably have a lot of the same people on ignore as Ghostpanther does, and I'm a BLM-supporting socialist. But the 'moderate Democrats' have become just -that- toxic over the past few years.

You are a liar who spreads Tim Pool misinformation... you are the most toxic poster on this forum...

[Endus]

The resident didn't simply just say, "I condemn white nationalists and white supremacists". It was a simple statement to make and the fact that he went out of his way to blame Antifa and the "radical left", shows that he knew exactly what he was doing by not giving his condemnation. His non-answer was his answer to everyone.

I swear to god, once they get sent their talking points sheets, we're gonna have to repeatedly remind the Republican types that inductive logic is, like, a real thing. They're gonna dispute that inductive logic exists or is logic at all. Because they're dishonest con artists, or naive and ignorant enough to fall for such despite how obvious it is.

Hm, no.

If someone does not adhere to the "corporate Democratic" party-line on this forum you get a bunch of users who will start bullying and outright insulting them, without the moderators doing anything about it. So yeah, that is why I probably have a lot of the same people on ignore as Ghostpanther does, and I'm a BLM-supporting socialist. But the 'moderate Democrats' have become just -that- toxic over the past few years.

Oh, come off it. I'm one of the most anti-corporate posters here, and I've never had anything like that flung at me.

[Edge-]

That debate was the worst thing I've ever seen & I was in The Star Wars Holiday Special.
- Mark Hamill

I mean...he's not wrong. I've watched the Star Wars Holiday Special and would gladly rewatch it in over rewatching last night's debate.

[PhaelixWW]

Also, 270toWin has modified its consensus EC map by changing Iowa from Trump to toss-up.

[Felya]

Oh, come off it. I'm one of the most anti-corporate posters here, and I've never had anything like that flung at me.

Dude... I post Jello Beafra campaign videos... yet, I’m one of the people he is talking about... The issue being, Tim Pool’s version of anti corporatist, is the same a corporatist. It’s how he calls Trump a liberal... that’s why the confusion.

[omerome]

I swear to god, once they get sent their talking points sheets, we're gonna have to repeatedly remind the Republican types that inductive logic is, like, a real thing. They're gonna dispute that inductive logic exists or is logic at all. Because they're dishonest con artists, or naive and ignorant enough to fall for such despite how obvious it is.

It's downright frightening to me that people need others to tell them how to think. Like they are simply incapable of independent thought. And they also depend on others to translate what our current president (lowercase 'p') because he simply can't speak for himself apparently. Which by the way, he usually turns around and makes his own people look bad by saying the opposite of what they defended.

The US really needs to put education as a higher priority because if 40% of our population is this willfully ignorant (or even stupid), we're truly fked.

[Felya]

Even if I disagree with your opinions, you (and Edge-) are also a lot less toxic in your replies to other users, which sometimes is even more frustrating in a sense. But other than that, I feel like you've been very pro-corporate and pro-status quo lately ever since the last US' election campaign. You also seem to turn a blind eye to the larger problems at hand: Trump and Biden are getting donations from mostly the same corporations and banks, no matter who wins, those donors always are going to win, and the public will lose. Furthermore there are countless studies that show that voting in the US is entirely pointless when it comes to influencing policy. Corporations and money decide policy, not elections in the USA. Meanwhile you seem to keep arguing to keep people engaged with the pointless hamster wheel.

You can’t argue about corporatist being a problem, when a corporation is president... this is why Tim Pool is a joke and anyone who listens to him ends up in your quagmire, when you leave the Tim bubble. That’s the problem... your view of US politics is through a con man view...

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The US really needs to put education as a higher priority because if 40% of our population is this willfully ignorant (or even stupid), we're truly fked.

Consider the money spent and the money dependent on keeping the population like that and it won’t seem as stupid, but far more deliberate.

[Zan15]

Hm, no.

If someone does not adhere to the "corporate Democratic" party-line on this forum you get a bunch of users who will start bullying and outright insulting them, without the moderators doing anything about it. So yeah, that is why I probably have a lot of the same people on ignore as Ghostpanther does, and I'm a BLM-supporting socialist. But the 'moderate Democrats' have become just -that- toxic over the past few years.

He outright put someone on ignore for using Your vs You're....because one was a direct insult to him....

Has nothing to do with bullying.
Insults yes, but the insult is that you are not blind faith following his party and trump.

[Felya]

Has nothing to do with bullying.

It’s the same bullying that Trump complains about, when he is fact checked.

[Monster Hunter]

Uhm... to compare what Trump did to parliamentary debate is amazing... Do you even believe England exists?

that gives me a fantastic idea.

get john bercow to mediate the next debate.

wonder how long trump will last having ORDER!!! ORDER!! screamed into his face

for those who dont know who im on about



edit: funnier video

[Zan15]

Well this is an interesting development...

Odd @Ghostpanther is usually the first to post a Rasmussen update

Let me check their data and ....oh wait right, you have to pay in order to see the limited data and methodology they kinda sorta release... never mind

Shocked they are even rated that high.

But then again they had Clinton +2 and called for Clinton to get over 300+ EC.