Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Theodarzna]

The important thing here is that we remember that the Trumpsters aren't concerned with sexual assault at all. They only want to disrupt the DNC and Biden's candidacy. The truth and justice are the furthest thing from this little sycophantic minds.

Lol, Propagandist? See you either take this forum so seriously that you believe someone is actually dedicated to running a psyop on you, or you mistakenly believe I care that much about this forum.

Also, for a alleged "Pro-Trump propogandist" I had little trouble stating Trump probably has diddled underage sex slaves on Epstein Island.

Here is some choice takes:

I've not heard that. If true it could save Trump's skins, but I suspect he's had more involvement. Maybe I'm guilty of typecasting but he looks like the kinda guy who'd hire the services of teenage sex slaves.

Hell, here is me, Theo, Master psyops spy for God Emperor Trump accusing his AG of possibly having a hand in Epstein's "Suicide", implying hey, its possible that Bar made it happen to protect Trump from the likely evidence that he has diddled child sex slaves.

As a fun fact, the MCC is actually ultimately administered by AG Barr. Read into that fact what you will.

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Also, curious, the initial reports said that Epstein was seen dead on a gurney being rolled out. Dead people are not rolled out on gurneys with their face showing. Like, that is NEVER done that way.

Further musings about Bill Bar's role in the Epstein suicide.

AG Bill Bar, in theory, is in control of the MCC were Epstein was; and I recall earlier reading he refused to send Epstein to a different facility. Weird right? Kinda gets those Almonds Activated.

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I've read cardiac arrest or hanging.

Here I name Trump himself as someone who had extensive contacts with Epstein, and suggest that trusting AG Bar to investigate this is nonsense since his boss Trump is implicated in the scandal.

The Clintons, Trump himself, Gov. Bill Richardson, some Senators, there are a lot of people who stand to gain from this being not a public trial.

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Also who in their right mind would trust AG Bar to do an investigation of his death? Or the FBI? Or anyone really? Given the absolute scope of Epstein's sex slave network and his connections, is there anybody alive who could credibly investigate the Jeffrey Epstein scandal? That is, someone whose findings would be trusted by most people (you’ll never satisfy everyone ofcourse)? If that person doesn’t exist, what does that tell us about America or just how widely spread Epstein's tendrils go or are suspected to go?

Further as the partisanship mounted in that thread and people were trying to make this solely about the Clintons I said:

There are very partisan people for whom only the other sides guy is actually tied to this.

Finally, the outright statement, me, rather cavalier in my stance that I have a strong intuition that Trump has molested under aged sex slaves and if there is anything that needed an investigation and a trial it was that Donald J. Trump diddled sex slaves.... child sex slaves no less.

If there is anything I for sure believe Trump is guilty of and deserve to be hauled off to prison for, it is that in my guts I know he molested those girls, he and who knows how many hundreds? thousands?

And I say this as a rightie.

For an alleged Trump propagandist I sure do feel cavalier at suggesting that Donald J. Trump should go to prison for child molestation and rape, or people just selectively edit what I say on this forum to suite a particular partisan tribalism that seems to pervade here and since I ain't consistently rooting for a specific team.

I wonder if our believed Democratic Party Über Alles have such spicy takes on Biden? Clintons? Pelosi? I mean I get called a Trumpster every time I post by my dedicated reply guy and yet I have actually straight out called Donald J. Trump a child molester. If I am a dedicated Trumpster running some super secret psyop game on you all it is weird that I out of everyone on this thread have accused the person I'm claimed to be a propagandist for of credibly molesting children.

Weird right? I'm allegedly this dedicated Trump Propogandist, yet I accused him of credibly molesting kids. Here, we have a rape accusation with some evidence and a bunch of people who went to bat on the "Believe rape allegations, being critical hurts survivors and is Anti-Woman" who now accuse a rape accuser of being a Russian psyop, a Putin plot, and a bunch of other disparaging things and yet I am called a propagandist? Sad.

[NED funded]

Lol, Propagandist? See you either take this forum so seriously that you believe someone is actually dedicated to running a psyop on you, or you mistakenly believe I care that much about this forum.

Dude you have 21k posts on this forum?

Just on this thread alone you are among the top posters



Cubby doubles you in time on this forum and you are already catching up to him

For someone that doesn't care you sure spend a lot of time doing that.

[Theodarzna]

Dude you have 21k posts on this forum?

Just on this thread alone you are among the top posters

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Cubby doubles you in time on this forum and you are already catching up to him

For someone that doesn't care you sure spend a lot of time doing that.

Amount of posts =/= cares. Like I am cavalier about wasting my time online, that is for sure.

[Felya]

Well, at least I wasn't willing to screw over some woman that got sexually assaulted, a sacrificial lamb for 'the greater good'... If you want to hurt people in the process of removing Trump from office, you could've at least limited it to Trump or his immediate family instead...

Yet, you say nothing of the 3 Trump accusers last year alone. Why isn’t media covering it?

[Orange Joe]

It's the same people saying the same thing from the other thread. I can stir it up for you. What happens when the Tara Reade story does not go away and the first time Joe Biden has to address it is when Trump throws it in his face on a debate stage--because the media isn't asking anyone about it,not him, not these women being touted for vp picks.

Trump isn't that stupid... It would only open it to allow Biden to bring up Trumps personal history of sexual abuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...ct_allegations

[beanman12345]

So as if this election couldn't get more bizarre it seems like Jesse Ventura former wrestler turned governor of Minnesota is floating the idea of running on the green party ticket.

[Edge-]

Trump isn't that stupid... It would only open it to allow Biden to bring up Trumps personal history of sexual abuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...ct_allegations

He is stupid, but that's beside the point.

Because the majority of these already were brought up during the 2016 campaign, including things like the Stormy Daniels affair. Plus the Access Hollywood tape of Trump bragging about sexually assaulting women. Plus the Howard Stern segment where Trump bragged about peeping on unclothed, underage girls at teenage beauty pageants.

And the consensus for Republican voters seems to have been that none of that matters to them in the slightest. So bringing it up again won't matter either. This is a bullet that's already been spent. Democratic voters seem to give more of a shit about sexual assault etc., so it's a bigger risk for Biden than Trump.

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So as if this election couldn't get more bizarre it seems like Jesse Ventura former wrestler turned governor of Minnesota is floating the idea of running on the green party ticket.

Last I saw he was rejecting the idea, and it's not like it'd go anywhere anyways. We'd have yet another nutso conspiracy theorist candidate for the greens, as he seems to have gone down that rabbit hole after being an apparently decent governor.

[Draco-Onis]

Every investigation is partisan, starting with a partisan impeachment that began before the President was elected....but you go on and pretend that it's just now going to be partisan. Only hold hearings for certain accusers, make it look even more partisan--that will show them. So you think the country has shown they don't care about sexual assault and decided that you too would join them instead of keeping up the fight. I guess it's easy to compromise your principles when your party guy is the one being accused. Everything you post is through a partisan lens, why stop now?

Except that is a load of bullshit the democrats followed the same rules as the Clinton investigations speaking of which the never ending Clinton investigations show you can have a partisan motive but fact based investigations are possible. Last but not least I will say this again TRUMP ADMITTED TO THE CRIME ON LIVE TV. You can say you are fine with the president seeking foreign help to win an election but it's clear he did it because he said he did so many times.

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Not really litigating it for Ford, she really couldn't run through that minefield. But if its okay to suggest that Reade is a partisan psyop, than Ford was fair game and some people owe a lot of apologies.

So when are you going to apologize then?

[beanman12345]

He is stupid, but that's beside the point.

Because the majority of these already were brought up during the 2016 campaign, including things like the Stormy Daniels affair. Plus the Access Hollywood tape of Trump bragging about sexually assaulting women. Plus the Howard Stern segment where Trump bragged about peeping on unclothed, underage girls at teenage beauty pageants.

And the consensus for Republican voters seems to have been that none of that matters to them in the slightest. So bringing it up again won't matter either. This is a bullet that's already been spent. Democratic voters seem to give more of a shit about sexual assault etc., so it's a bigger risk for Biden than Trump.

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Last I saw he was rejecting the idea, and it's not like it'd go anywhere anyways. We'd have yet another nutso conspiracy theorist candidate for the greens, as he seems to have gone down that rabbit hole after being an apparently decent governor.

Right, last week he was soundly rejecting the idea, but seems today he's completely done a 180. https://twitter.com/GovJVentura/stat...83039642595330 of course he'll get less than 1% of the vote like the green party always does if he does end up running.

[JohnBrown1917]

Trump isn't that stupid... It would only open it to allow Biden to bring up Trumps personal history of sexual abuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...ct_allegations

He did it with Hillary by bringing up Bill's cases.
His team/Trump knows his voter base does not care, the sort of people that have morals would never vote for the GOP.


As for him being stupid, he already was an idiot before he became senile. So I would not count on that.

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So as if this election couldn't get more bizarre it seems like Jesse Ventura former wrestler turned governor of Minnesota is floating the idea of running on the green party ticket.

Bit late, Howie is already going to be the Green's nominee.

[cubby]

This is some very strong "the goal justify the means" mindset here.

I remember when I argued for the very same thing a few months ago, to see Trump removed from office.

The answer I got back then was: "We have higher moral standards, we won't lower ourselves. We must show the good example."


That preachiness lasted about half a heartbeatuntil having higher moral standards suddenly wasn't convenient anymore it seems.

Well, at least I wasn't willing to screw over some woman that got sexually assaulted, a sacrificial lamb for 'the greater good'... If you want to hurt people in the process of removing Trump from office, you could've at least limited it to Trump or his immediate family instead...

And yet you fail to understand what brought us to this mindset. Trump. Every time. His shitshow continues on a daily basis, you people blindly following him into oblivious will shake your heads after you arrive, wondering how it was that we got there, with our Dear Leader at helm.

But please, do go on with your concerned posting - it's adorable.

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So as if this election couldn't get more bizarre it seems like Jesse Ventura former wrestler turned governor of Minnesota is floating the idea of running on the green party ticket.

Is there any history of him being pro-Trump? I can't recall seeing anything.

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Dude you have 21k posts on this forum?

Just on this thread alone you are among the top posters



Cubby doubles you in time on this forum and you are already catching up to him

For someone that doesn't care you sure spend a lot of time doing that.

You're my hero.

The Trumpkins desire to defend and deflect is simply amazing. If they weren't trying to drive this country into the ground it would almost be worth awarding.

[beanman12345]

And yet you fail to understand what brought us to this mindset. Trump. Every time. His shitshow continues on a daily basis, you people blindly following him into oblivious will shake your heads after you arrive, wondering how it was that we got there, with our Dear Leader at helm.

But please, do go on with your concerned posting - it's adorable.

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Is there any history of him being pro-Trump? I can't recall seeing anything.

not really ever pro trump but he was happy he ran in a way because he liked the idea of Trump "throwing a wrench in the party" but in the same sentence liked sanders for the same exact reason. But he's since gone on saying he's a conman and shouldn't be president. He endorsed the libertarian party guy in 2016 and now maybe running as green party, the guy is really all over the place.

[Theodarzna]

So when are you going to apologize then?

Well, given I've actually in no uncertain terms said Trump should at least be investigated and than in my opinion is very very likely guilty of child molestation vis a vis the Epstein Sex Trafficking case; I don't think I will because your attempts at "But your a partisan propagandist" kinda fall flat when I have called the person I'm allegedly a propagandist for a child molester and suggested his AG had a had in destroying the evidence.

Kinda hard for you people to maintain this bonkers claim that I am some super serious psyop to weaken your faith and resolve in the Democratic Party and that I'm a "Trumpster" as my reply guy likes to call me; when you know, I've called Trump a very likely child molester.

Heck, I can't think of any time anywhere where the Dem Uber Alles that frequent this forum have ever in such strong words said anything harsh or hostile about say Biden or Dem establishment figures. Like here, the Tara Reade story is met with complete denials, people who went to bat saying that Ford was for sure telling the truth and that to even raise doubt was sexism and an affront to womankind suddenly find their skepticism when its politically problematic for "Their Guy" to believe all women.

You might have had that gotcha, But, unfortunately its hard to call me a partisan Trumpian Propagandist or whatever innuendo you want to use when I've said that its credible that Trump has had sex with under aged prostitutes and that this deserve a thorough investigation.

If there is anything I for sure believe Trump is guilty of and deserve to be hauled off to prison for, it is that in my guts I know he molested those girls, he and who knows how many hundreds? thousands?

[cubby]

Amount of posts =/= cares. Like I am cavalier about wasting my time online, that is for sure.

"I was just being sarcastic" you mean?

Trumpkins have lots of excuses when their lies are laid out. And it's getting easier and easier to lay those lies to bear. So those excuses are getting downright adorable.

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not really ever pro trump but he was happy he ran in a way because he liked the idea of Trump "throwing a wrench in the party" but in the same sentence liked sanders for the same exact reason. But he's since gone on saying he's a conman and shouldn't be president. He endorsed the libertarian party guy in 2016 and now maybe running as green party, the guy is really all over the place.

I remember liking most of his rules as Governor - love the fact that two former governors are in the same movie (Predator). I just hope he doesn't do it - votes he gets will be peeled away from possible Biden votes.

[Theodarzna]

"I was just being sarcastic" you mean?

Trumpkins have lots of excuses when their lies are laid out. And it's getting easier and easier to lay those lies to bear. So those excuses are getting downright adorable.

Again, for an alleged Trumpkin I am very cavalier about calling Trump a very likely child diddler. Not even mincing words here; or a "If he did it" I say "I know he did, investigate and destroy!" statement from the alleged "Trumpkin".

If there is anything I for sure believe Trump is guilty of and deserve to be hauled off to prison for, it is that in my guts I know he molested those girls, he and who knows how many hundreds? thousands?

And no, not sarcasm, I am not claiming things are sarcastic, but that I do not actually take this forum seriously enough to run a psyop on you all like I'm part of some grand strategy to shake your faith in the DNC, I know full well that nothing I could say will ever break your resolve or loyalty to it.

To put it simply, I derive some twisted form of fun out of posting here. Less so than back in the day, but still a kind of fun.

[beanman12345]

"I was just being sarcastic" you mean?

Trumpkins have lots of excuses when their lies are laid out. And it's getting easier and easier to lay those lies to bear. So those excuses are getting downright adorable.

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I remember liking most of his rules as Governor - love the fact that two former governors are in the same movie (Predator). I just hope he doesn't do it - votes he gets will be peeled away from possible Biden votes.

I pretty much agree with everything you just said.

[Machismo]

Again, for an alleged Trumpkin I am very cavalier about calling Trump a very likely child diddler. Not even mincing words here; or a "If he did it" I say "I know he did, investigate and destroy!" statement from the alleged "Trumpkin".


And no, not sarcasm, I am not claiming things are sarcastic, but that I do not actually take this forum seriously enough to run a psyop on you all like I'm part of some grand strategy to shake your faith in the DNC, I know full well that nothing I could say will ever break your resolve or loyalty to it.

To put it simply, I derive some twisted form of fun out of posting here. Less so than back in the day, but still a kind of fun.

So, you spent thousands of posts shilling for a guy whom you believe to be a pedophile?

What does that say about you?

[Zaktar]

Well said - better than I did. We are at a point in the United States where we are abandoning our principles, each and every day, and unfortunately the only way to get them back is to continue to abandon them, until we can stop.

If this allegation becomes credible, the move is for Biden to drop out, even if it somewhat impacts our chances of beating Trump. Would much, much rather try and fail with someone like Sanders (who as far as I'm aware is the only person capable of running if something happens to Biden) than choose to vote for a rapist. You don't get back to your principles by throwing them further away, you just get further and further away from them and lose the ability to tell right from wrong.

As it stands, it's a somewhat credible story with reasonable doubt. If the story ends where it's at, anyone for whom this is the determining factor will have to decide whether the weight of evidence is heavier against Biden or Trump (hint: Trump is a fucking monster and doesn't bother to hide it). If it changes, if the story becomes worse and it's obvious that it's true, there are two problems: 1) moral - choosing to vote for someone you know is a rapist is deeply shitty even if the other choice is a worse rapist 2) practical - if it truly becomes credible then that choice will dampen voter turnout to some degree, whether it's by enough or not is an open question. If it becomes credible, the right thing to do from both directions is to change up the candidate. If nothing else putting your money where your mouth is shows people who care about things like principles that they actually matter to you, makes it easier to believe that you actually want to do right by them.

[arandomuser]

Lol looks like republicans are suddenly "woke"
now that its 1 woman who loves putin accusing biden of assault rather than the 20 woman accusing trump including his ex wife in a court filing.
anyways i dont care if joe biden did do it, because republicans constantly told us trump talking grabbing genitals was being an anti-pcSJW owner, so they should automatically support joe biden if he did the real thing right

[cubby]

You are an incredibly stupid and insular person. Ironically in much the same manner as Trump is. For you it is inconceivable that any one who is not crazy about Biden is a Trump supporter. There are a multitude of people on the planet and a lot of different belief systems. It is truly incredible that you can't conceive of any one outside your binary belief system.

Your entire personality could be summarized by a simple and angry text algorithm.

To state the blindingly obvious: both Biden and Trump clearly have issues with women, are deeply racist, stupid, homophobic borderline senile and pathological liars. No one should vote for either of them. They are assholes. It is not a difficult position to understand.

Any guesses on who this is? Smells like Lil Jetti.

Anyway, my position on why Biden is a clear choice is clear. You "new posters" ought to read up on a thread before responding to it.