Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Elegiac]

bit off topic but what kind of car is the one in front? it looks cool.

It's a golf cart modded to look like a vintage car, I believe.

I mean it goes to show you how rich and out of touch these people are that so many of them own golf carts but go figure.

[Zan15]

Could you try that again?

So flustered in his talking points can't slow his roll to post accurately?

They can't stop for a second changing and weaving their way through their bullshit piled on the ground to add another pile of bullshit



https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...me-court-vote/


given the lack of any “long-standing tradition” but anticipating the possibility of an election-year vacancy, McConnell fabricated a different history to justify treating a Trump nominee differently from Obama’s. He argued that “[y]ou have to go back to … 1880s to find the last time … a Senate of a different party from the president filled a Supreme Court vacancy created in the middle of a presidential election. That was entirely the precedent.”


When that anticipation became reality with the death of Justice Ginsburg, he offered a slightly different excuse: “Since the 1880s, no Senate has confirmed an opposite-party president’s Supreme Court nominee in a presidential election year”. A National Review article claimed a norm: “when their party controls the Senate, presidents get to fill Supreme Court vacancies . . . [but] when the opposite party controls the Senate, the Senate gets to block Supreme Court nominees . . .”.

[Endus]

If the Republicans steal this seat like they did the last one, then I am all for pushing the courts to 15 or more.

Expand the court to 13/15 seats, establish Federal law mandating that SCOTUS have said number of members. Establish federal law that establishes a requirement that the court partisan distribution be no greater than 50%+1 seat; a 13-seat SCOTUS would be legally obliged to have no more than 7 representatives from a given party, and a 15-seat court no more than 8. Establish federal law that no more than one seat can be empty and the Court still sit, preventing any party from leaving seats open rather than fill them to maintain an advantage. Establish a code of conduct that mandates a separation of Church and State within the courts.

Ideally, I'd say a federal law to prevent any justice, at any level, from any partisan standing or membership whatsoever, currently or historically. But that's never gonna happen, in the USA.

[postman1782]

Expand the court to 13/15 seats, establish Federal law mandating that SCOTUS have said number of members. Establish federal law that establishes a requirement that the court partisan distribution be no greater than 50%+1 seat; a 13-seat SCOTUS would be legally obliged to have no more than 7 representatives from a given party, and a 15-seat court no more than 8. Establish federal law that no more than one seat can be empty and the Court still sit, preventing any party from leaving seats open rather than fill them to maintain an advantage. Establish a code of conduct that mandates a separation of Church and State within the courts.

Ideally, I'd say a federal law to prevent any justice, at any level, from any partisan standing or membership whatsoever, currently or historically. But that's never gonna happen, in the USA.

I would also establish a law that says when they can refuse to hold hearings or stop the slamming through of a seat. Like, You can't confirm a judge, in an election year, after the primary process has been chosen, or started? Instead of having some shitgibbon like McConnell change his mind and flip flop.

[cubby]

If the Republicans steal this seat like they did the last one, then I am all for pushing the courts to 15 or more.

There is actually a very good policy argument going around for expanding the court significantly - 19-27 seats. The reasoning is that each seat opening of SCOTUS has become so divisive that it makes a process that shouldn't be any more political than necessary into something that couldn't be more political if we tried. By expanding the court to a large number - 27 seats is actually the preferred amount - you remove most of the politicization for when a seat opens. With 9 seats, if a Justice dies or retires, the world goes insane. With 27, if three die or retire, who the fuck cares (relatively speaking).

[Elegiac]

The Taliban endorses Trump.

No comment.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Recently, Biden when asked about packing the Supreme Court, besides he would not answer the question directly, stated "never before in history has a vacant seat on the Supreme Court been selected for the seat in a election year"..which is a fabrication of his making....

https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/feat...lection-years/

So too is nominating and confirming a Justice before the election. In fact, throughout American history, there have been 16 U.S. Supreme Court vacancies in presidential election years. 12 justices have been nominated in an election year and confirmed before the presidential election, while only one was nominated but failed to win confirmation in the Senate.

And for those who think it has not happened in the 1900's....

In March of 1912, Republican President William Howard Taft nominated Mahlon Pitney to succeed the deceased John Harlan. The Republican-controlled Senate confirmed him overwhelmingly just five days later.

Four years after that, Democratic President Woodrow Wilson made two Supreme Court nominations before the presidential election of 1916: Louis Brandeis and John Clarke. The Democrat-controlled Senate confirmed both; even voting unanimously for Clarke just ten days after his nomination!

In February of 1932, the Republican-controlled Senate confirmed Republican President Herbert Hoover’s nomination of Benjamin Cardozo on a voice vote. Eight years later, it also used a voice vote to confirm Democrat Franklin Roosevelt’s selection of Frank Murphy.

In September of 1956, President Dwight D. Eisenhower learned that Justice Sherman Minton was planning to retire the following month. On October 16, the day after Minton left office and just 52 days before Eisenhower stood for re-election, he made a recess appointment to name William Brennan to the Court. When the Senate returned to session in early 1957, it voted to confirm Brennan’s nomination.

RBG's dying wish to wait until after the election to have the seat filled. Why do Republicans want to disrespect and piss on the grave of such a brave woman?

[Bodakane]

It's a golf cart modded to look like a vintage car, I believe.

I mean it goes to show you how rich and out of touch these people are that so many of them own golf carts but go figure.

Actually, the golf carts are the main mode of transport in the Villages. The Villages is set up for it. They pretty much do all their running around in golf carts, like grocery shopping, going out, etc.

[Ashina]

Does Belgium really need 2 Green parties?

What? You do know there's a French and Dutch speaking part with their own government right? It has nothing to do with factionalism but with the constitutional structure of this country.

Educate yourself before you run your mouth about a topic you clearly don't know anything about.

[Captain N]

RBG's dying wish to wait until after the election to have the seat filled. Why do Republicans want to disrespect and piss on the grave of such a brave woman?

Because she's a woman....and a liberal.

[Elegiac]

RBG's dying wish to wait until after the election to have the seat filled. Why do Republicans want to disrespect and piss on the grave of such a brave woman?

Also one would think an ostensibly godfearing group of people would take the hint when their celebration of this course of action gets struck by plague.

[Cthulhu 2020]

The Taliban endorses Trump.

No comment.

I can't wait for the media to ask Trump to reject the endorsement and denounce the Taliban.

"Well you see, there are some very fine people, very fine."

[Elegiac]

I can't wait for the media to ask Trump to reject the endorsement and denounce the Taliban.

"Well you see, there are some very fine people, very fine."

Or: "I can't say I'm familiar with them."

[Benggaul]

Or: "I can't say I'm familiar with them."

"He's a very fine man. A good man. I remember he used to come tally me bananas..."

[DarkTZeratul]

"He's a very fine man. A good man. I remember he used to come tally me bananas..."

"Why shouldn't they endorse me? I'm good for business. I stopped the war. Something the radical Democrats could never do."

[Noxx79]

Recently, Biden when asked about packing the Supreme Court, besides he would not answer the question directly, stated "never before in history has a vacant seat on the Supreme Court been selected for the seat in a election year"..which is a fabrication of his making....

https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/feat...lection-years/

So too is nominating and confirming a Justice before the election. In fact, throughout American history, there have been 16 U.S. Supreme Court vacancies in presidential election years. 12 justices have been nominated in an election year and confirmed before the presidential election, while only one was nominated but failed to win confirmation in the Senate.

And for those who think it has not happened in the 1900's....

In March of 1912, Republican President William Howard Taft nominated Mahlon Pitney to succeed the deceased John Harlan. The Republican-controlled Senate confirmed him overwhelmingly just five days later.

Four years after that, Democratic President Woodrow Wilson made two Supreme Court nominations before the presidential election of 1916: Louis Brandeis and John Clarke. The Democrat-controlled Senate confirmed both; even voting unanimously for Clarke just ten days after his nomination!

In February of 1932, the Republican-controlled Senate confirmed Republican President Herbert Hoover’s nomination of Benjamin Cardozo on a voice vote. Eight years later, it also used a voice vote to confirm Democrat Franklin Roosevelt’s selection of Frank Murphy.

In September of 1956, President Dwight D. Eisenhower learned that Justice Sherman Minton was planning to retire the following month. On October 16, the day after Minton left office and just 52 days before Eisenhower stood for re-election, he made a recess appointment to name William Brennan to the Court. When the Senate returned to session in early 1957, it voted to confirm Brennan’s nomination.

An abortion likely saved trumps life.

[zealo]

The Taliban endorses Trump.

No comment.

That moment when terrorists the US has been fighting for 19 years in Afghanistan endorses one of the candidates in a US election.

[s_bushido]

That moment when terrorists the US has been fighting for 19 years in Afghanistan endorses one of the candidates in a US election.

The hilarity of the endorsement aside, haven't they made strides to becoming a legitimate political entity in the region? Or am I thinking of another group?

[alexw]

An abortion likely saved trumps life.

You think ghostpanther cares?

There is no supposed belief he holds that he won't instantiously throw in a dumpster if it becomes the slightest bit inconvenient to supporting Trump / republicans.

His beliefs only apply to democrats.

[xmirrors]

I'm a long-time lurker but not really an active poster, so I don't know who to direct this at, but are there any Trump supporters out there willing to actually answer this question: during the first debate, the Trump family refused to wear masks. Why do they believe the rules don't apply to them?

Ever since watching the Chris Wallace interview on Fox News I've yet to see any direct answer to this question.