Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Thepersona]

He's currently 12 points ahead in Virginia - and that's the worst poll for Biden. One has him 18 points ahead.

The problem is that the GOP no longer cares about anything legitimate, and is only out to steal the election. Voter suppression, ballot box removals, USPS fuckery - these are all attacks on democracy and our voting system. It's the only way the GOtrumP can win anymore.

I'm hopeful that even with all of the election fuckery, they wont win. For example, in 1988 the military junta tried everything to throw the Si and No election and stay in power. It didnt work

[postman1782]

I think Biden will lose Virginia, Illinois, Florida, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. Those states have been hit hard by the protests and Republican talk has been high amongst their leaders since they're about to leave office such as Ralph Northam. I think NC will go blue though.

What the fuck are you smoking that you think he will lose any of those? Besides maybe Florida, because Florida is literally the old folks home of America.

Lets go state by state, starting with Pennsylvania:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6861.html
Polling average is Biden up 7.3%.

Florida:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6841.html
Biden is up 3.5% but that is closer than it should be.

Virginia:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6988.html
Biden is up 11 points.

Minnesota:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6966.html
Biden is up 9 points.

And Illinois isn't even a fucking tossup, but I will post it anyway just because you blindly listed it because you are delusional:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/illinois/
Had to go to 538 for up to date polls because they don't have many from non-battleground states, and it looks like Biden has a 22-23 point lead there.

Out of all of them that are within reach, Florida is about the only one he might be guaranteed to win, even though Trump has allowed the sacrifice of old people there, thanks to his virus response, so they might not enjoy that.

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He's currently 12 points ahead in Virginia - and that's the worst poll for Biden. One has him 18 points ahead.

The problem is that the GOP no longer cares about anything legitimate, and is only out to steal the election. Voter suppression, ballot box removals, USPS fuckery - these are all attacks on democracy and our voting system. It's the only way the GOtrumP can win anymore.

I used their site, since RCP kinda skews Republican now, and even they are saying very different things than what he is claiming. And I saw on 538 they have a lot of SurveyMonkey polls, which are D- rated pollsters, since they are Online Only. I don't really like using them, but hey, if they are going to use them as an aggregate, go for it.

[Blur4stuff]

Zero states have been hit hard by protests. The only people this is a thing for are the cultist whackos.

Some random person living in rural america is not negatively impacted by a window that got broken in Portland.

[Rasulis]

Yes, he can.


The leases would stand until the end of their term. Then they would be unable to be renewed.


"States" do not own their land. They are local governmental zones. Federal always trumps State. If your argument held ANY water whatsoever, States could legally do whatever the fuck they wanted. They obviously can't, because Federal trumps State. This is basic US governance 101. Those laws that legalize marijuana? There's a reason the Feds can still arrest you for having marijuana, because Federal jurisdiction covers the whole country, regardless of what any single state feels.


Uh, yes, he absolutely can, in the same way that say, murder or marijuana remains illegal on a Federal level, and is ALSO illegal on a local level. Having mineral rights does not entitle you to do whatever the fuck you want with it. It allows you to do whatever the fuck you want with it, within the law.

These "states rights" arguments fall flat in the face of nearly every federal law in the country.

You are kidding me right? Obama tried for four years to tighten fracking regulations on Federal lands. Tighten regulations only. Not even ban fracking. Only to get shut down in court in 2016.

Federal Judge Strikes Down Obama Administration's Fracking Rules

Imagine trying to completely ban fracking in State and private lands. He'll end up spending years, in not decades, in litigations.

[Sunseeker]

You are kidding me right? Obama tried for four years to tighten fracking regulations on Federal lands. Tighten regulations only. Not even ban fracking. Only to get shut down in court in 2016.

Federal Judge Strikes Down Obama Administration's Fracking Rules

Imagine trying to completely ban fracking in State and private lands. He'll end up spending years, in not decades, in litigations.

Nothing about that says he can't do it, only that people with obvious interests will challenge him.

I mean, I LIVE in Wyoming for christs sake. The oil/gas/coal lobby got the university to shut down student art exhibits that protested said industry. These people are obviously biased and don't give two fucks what the law is, they think they're entitled to drill drill drill.

[Zan15]

I think Biden will lose Virginia, Illinois, Florida, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. Those states have been hit hard by the protests and Republican talk has been high amongst their leaders since they're about to leave office such as Ralph Northam. I think NC will go blue though.

LOL.

You should bet money on those predictions you could make a small fortune.
But you won't because even you don't believe the shit coming out of your mouth.

[Rasulis]

Nothing about that says he can't do it, only that people with obvious interests will challenge him.

I mean, I LIVE in Wyoming for christs sake. The oil/gas/coal lobby got the university to shut down student art exhibits that protested said industry. These people are obviously biased and don't give two fucks what the law is, they think they're entitled to drill drill drill.

Why waste decades and hundred of millions on pointless lawsuits that will only benefit the lawyers? The oil industry is already crumbling under the weight of its debt and declining demand. Get rid of all the subsidies and tax breaks. Make it harder to permit for new pipelines. Increase subsidy for solar and offshore wind farms which will compete with natural gas. Increase storage capacity. Increase support for the EV industry before we get left behind by China and EU.

[cubby]

Whoa - Cunningham up by 10 points in North Carolina Senate race in a well regarded poll from today.

[kaid]

So it looks like the tillis race the voters are going okay so our guy sends racy texts and shrugged.

[Rasulis]

Whoa - Cunningham up by 10 points in a well regarded poll from today.

Alaska senate race is neck to neck. This is a totally strange election.

[Zan15]

Ouches.... Promises...umm....??


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...123001321.html

Remember when President Donald Trump promised to revive the coal industry?

It hasn’t exactly worked out that way. According to a recent article in the New York Times, 145 coal-burning units at 75 power plants have been idled during Trump’s time in office (“the fastest decline in coal-fuel capacity in any single presidential term”). Power generated from coal has dropped from 31% to 20%. Coal production is down 34% (“the largest four-year drop in production since at least 1932”). And some 5,000 coal miners — nearly 10% of the workforce — have lost their jobs while Trump has been president. Not only has Trump not brought back the coal industry, he hasn’t even been able to slow its decline.


Remember when Trump said he was going to revive the steel industry?

Guess how that turned out? In an initial burst of enthusiasm, U.S. steel companies cranked up production and hired workers — only to lay many of them off when it turned out there simply wasn’t enough demand to buy the increased U.S. production. By 2020, U.S. Steel Corp. was laying off thousands of workers and idling some of its blast furnaces. Its stock price dropped by two-thirds from its 2018 peak. Meanwhile, companies that relied on steel had to raise prices on consumers. Many of them also laid off workers.


How about manufacturing jobs?

Remember when Trump said he was going to stop companies from shifting production abroad and even bring manufacturing jobs back to the U.S.? Early on, Trump claimed to have cut a deal to keep a Carrier Corp. plant operating in the U.S. instead of moving to Mexico. But just eight months later, Carrier revealed that it was eliminating 338 jobs at the factory — and moving the positions to Mexico. Trump said he would punish companies that moved jobs offshore, but executives quickly realized he was never going to follow through on that threat.

“Under Trump, U.S. jobs are moving overseas even faster than before,” business website Quartz wrote in 2017. Two years later, the Guardian noted that since Trump became president, “nearly 200,000 jobs have moved overseas.” And just a few months ago, the Economic Policy Institute reported that between 2016 and 2018 — the most recent year for which data is available — “nearly 1,800 factories have disappeared” from the U.S. manufacturing base.

Let’s not forget China. Remember how Trump promised to shrink the trade deficit with China?

To this end, he badgered the Chinese, negotiated with them, played nice (sometimes) and rough (sometimes). He imposed tariffs. He announced that big trade agreements were right around the corner. The outcome? In 2016, the U.S. trade deficit with China was $346.8 billion, according to Census Bureau data. Last year, the trade deficit was — are you ready for this? — $345.2 billion. All that Trumpian hullabaloo shaved a negligible $1.6 billion from the trade deficit with China.

[cubby]

Alaska senate race is neck to neck. This is a totally strange election.

It would be insane if Gross beat Sullivan. Agreed - totally strange.

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Holy fuck YES.

[Thepersona]

So it looks like the tillis race the voters are going okay so our guy sends racy texts and shrugged.

I mean, the other side has a sexual predator and a person who repeteadly cheated on his wives at the top of their ticket. I think that the "holier than thou" conservatives have little floor to stand ATM.

[beanman12345]

Whoa - Cunningham up by 10 points in North Carolina Senate race in a well regarded poll from today.

Yup 10 years ago, his career would be done. Thanks Trump for normalizing this bullshit I guess.

[Thepersona]

Alaska senate race is neck to neck. This is a totally strange election.

I mean, it's not strange if you buy to the notion that Trump is extremely toxic to everything GOP related, and the last 2 weeks have been self owns after self owns.

[Felya]

Holy fuck YES.

I don’t care who wins, as long as Jordan’s legacy remains pure.

[Benggaul]

So it looks like the tillis race the voters are going okay so our guy sends racy texts and shrugged.

As they should have. In the grand scheme of things his "racy" texts (good grief, can they even be called "racy"...they read like something I would have sent in the 7th grade) are a huge nothingburger.

In other news, McGrath did pretty great against McConnell in the debate (and he got to trot out his fucking evil villain laugh again) but it will ultimately not matter because Kentucky's state motto is "Home of the self-own".

[cubby]

As they should have. In the grand scheme of things his "racy" texts (good grief, can they even be called "racy"...they read like something I would have sent in the 7th grade) are a huge nothingburger.

In other news, McGrath did pretty great against McConnell in the debate (and he got to trot out his fucking evil villain laugh again) but it will ultimately not matter because Kentucky's state motto is "Home of the self-own".

Those texts were beyond tame. I'm glad they are getting shrugged off.

Yeah, it's too bad about McGrath - no McConnell loses, he just wouldn't allow it. I kinda wonder how that other guy would have done, the one who came close to McGrath in the primary.

[Thepersona]

As they should have. In the grand scheme of things his "racy" texts (good grief, can they even be called "racy"...they read like something I would have sent in the 7th grade) are a huge nothingburger.

In other news, McGrath did pretty great against McConnell in the debate (and he got to trot out his fucking evil villain laugh again) but it will ultimately not matter because Kentucky's state motto is "Home of the self-own".

What is KY economy based on? because what little i know about said state is that the Tax laws and business laws are extremely lax (as my father work(ed) for a foreign company, based in KY)

[Benggaul]

What is KY economy based on? because what little i know about said state is that the Tax laws and business laws are extremely lax (as my father work(ed) for a foreign company, based in KY)

Kentucky is basically one of those "welfare states" that the right are always complaining about. It is the second-most dependent state in the union on federal funds, last I checked (a year or so ago). McConnell keeps bringing that federal money in through shady as fuck deals with his wife, so they keep electing him.

Oh, the part that made him laugh at the debate? Being called out for his COVID-19 response.