No lad, I do not think so. I never voted for any known political candidate of the two major parties until I voted for Obama in 2008. I had some family members tell me I would live to regret that. They were right. But none of them where ashamed of me. Most ( if not all of them ) support Trump.
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Yeah. It's been a rough year for the economy and a lot of people. But not everyone blames Trump for that. And it is recovering.
" If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.." - Abraham Lincoln
“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams

Although retail bankruptcy is dwarfed by oil and gas bankruptcy.
Energy cos. brought more than $30B in debt to Houston court in Q3 bankruptcies
This marks the second consecutive quarter for massive bankruptcy debt in the Houston court.
" If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.." - Abraham Lincoln
“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams

It is important to teach your children your values. And they in turn, should carry on those values to their children. We raised 3 kids and they all have turned out great and share our values. They are teaching our grandchildren the same values we taught them.
Denzil Washington said it best in one his interviews when he was asked about the high crime rate among young African Americans. He wisely said...."it starts in the home".
Now of course not everyone is going to share the same values. And we each have a free will to choose which path we will take. But education at a early age and also living a good example for them to follow is vital. But there is no 100% guarantee things will turn out as we wish they would for our kids. And our kids do not share all of our opinions. But overall, they do our values. And this is reflected in how they live their daily lives.
" If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.." - Abraham Lincoln
“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams
How are they handling Trump as president, defying every single thing they teach? How do they teach them to respect the office of the president? Do you think they learned to lie, so you don’t panic?
Yes, it starts at home of police officers that detain black people, a lot more than white people.Denzil Washington said it best in one his interviews when he was asked about the high crime rate among young African Americans. He wisely said...."it starts in the home".
Edit: You are misrepresenting what Denzel said:
Denzel Washington: It starts at home, don't blame the justice system
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/61793493.cms
As someone who denies systematic racism, don’t quote people out of context, as if they don’t either."It starts at home. It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn't have a father figure, he'll go find a father figure," Denzel said, according to source. "So you know I can't blame the system. It's unfortunate that we make such easy work for them," he added.
Did you just claim black people have different values than you do? What the fuck? This is the values Trump teaches?Now of course not everyone is going to share the same values. And we each have a free will to choose which path we will take. But education at a early age and also living a good example for them to follow is vital. But there is no 100% guarantee things will turn out as we wish they would for our kids. And our kids do not share all of our opinions. But overall, they do our values. And this is reflected in how they live their daily lives.
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Trump supporter exhibiting a moment of ignorance regarding people of colour. Shock.
Another ridiculous comment by Biden....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pol...cts-in-the-leg
Law enforcement groups blasted Vice President Joe Biden for again suggesting training police to shoot suspects "in the leg" is a viable way to avoid fatalities, decrying the proposal as dangerous and ignorant.
During an ABC News town hall Thursday, Biden gave the shooting advice while talking about broader police reforms, which have been on the public conscience since the killing of George Floyd sparked nationwide racial unrest.
"There's a lot of things we've learned and it takes time, but we can do this," Biden said. "You can ban chokeholds ... you have to teach people how to de-escalate circumstances. ... Instead of anybody coming at you and the first thing you do is shoot to kill, you shoot them in the leg."
Police officers and law enforcement groups pounced on the suggestion that officers would train to shoot someone in the leg rather than "center mass," the largest part of the body that has long been the firearms training target.
John Evans, president of the Buffalo Police Benevolent Association, told Fox News that Biden's suggestion is "absolutely ridiculous" and "incredibly ignorant."
"The guy's clueless," Evans said. "And I know he's just trying to appease his left-wing base but it's a really foolish statement."
First off, you do not shoot to kill in any self defense situation. You shoot to stop the threat to your life. And cops have the right to defend
themselves. If you want to save your life, the worse thing you can do is try to shoot a smaller target. You aim for center mass. It is a larger target and thus easier to hit. It increases your chances of stopping a deadly threat.
And not all gun shots end up fatal. In fact, most do not. Even center mass hits. Depends on which organ it hits and how much damage is done.
I once watched a video of 2 cops shooting at a armed suspect 22 times and they only hit him 3 times. Which was enough, because at least one round was a center mass shot. It is very challenging to hit a moving target. No matter how good you are and how much you train.
Now I do agree with Biden on his other points. I am not against police reform to the extent of better training when it comes to dealing with the public and banning choke holds.
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" If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.." - Abraham Lincoln
“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams


If people shouldn’t shoot to kill in any self defence situation, then Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer...the cops who broke into Breonna Taylor’s house are murderers. You see where this is going. I love Trump supporters. They’re completely oblivious to what giant hypocrites they are. And to think some of them are proud of the ‘values’ they pass down. God help their families, because they’re clearly failures as parents. But hey, Trump supporters don’t care what people think. They just post drivel anyway.
You cry that people don't engage with you honestly but you're one of the more dishonest people here. This stuff is kinda old and its also almost laughably trivial compared to the shit your orange god vomits up daily. Go post on the Trump blowjob subreddit if you want traction.
he's got 97% of the forum on ignore. to him this Mega thread is only 11 pages long
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what a shock, nary a comment ever about just the things trump said tonight....
Sorry america i apologize for people like this that have lead our country to where it is right now.
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Oh what a shock, taken out of context without telling the whole story....
Gee why did you leave out this part
Economists polled by Reuters had forecast retail sales would rise 0.7% in September. Some said September’s surge was likely exaggerated by difficulties stripping seasonal fluctuations from the data after the shock caused by COVID-19. Unadjusted retail sales fell 2.8% after dropping 1.0% in August.
the 9 month result is -.8%. Getting excited about one money abnormally high result after 4 months of extreme drops is not "good news"
Gettting excited about a result that is highly dependent of trillions of dollars of govt debt, is not "good news"
you are the kind of person who is going to be all giddy about the next GDP report being such a huge positive...ignoring the even bigger drop before that.
Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
Trump readily admits he would flee the country if Biden wins.
The Resident of the United States is a flight risk.

I almost care less about him fleeing the country to escape justice (I'm sure enough of his goons will go down to make that point evident) and more worried about the national security secrets he might know...
The republicans also don't want him fleeing the country. That would be disasterous for their party to have the man they sunk so much behind to bail on them, taking any farce of patriotism they claim to have with him.
“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
They wouldn't let him leave, not with everything he knows, especially with how much debt he's in and how easily he'd sell out to try and keep himself out of trouble.
With that said, this is the person who is our president now. He loves our country so much that he worked and became its leader, tried to make it so great again for 4 years (and failed, miserably)...that he'll straight up leave this wonderful country (that he supposedly loves so much) as soon as he loses an election and is no longer in a position to keep himself out of legal trouble.
He is in SO much trouble the day he is no longer president.