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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    I asked you for a citation that Giuliani/Bannon were, in fact, one of the corroborating sources as you specifically asserted. Thank you for admitting that you were speculating. If you felt I was being condescending by asking you to back up your assertion with fact, please know that was not my intent.
    Who else can it be? Please explain to me, who besides those two people, that can verify it? The shop owner him self?

    How do you reconcile Biden being president and his schedule showing he couldn’t be at this meeting? Is reality a good enough source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEHPALLYTANK View Post
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ox-Set-on-Fire
    Might want to check that, I have no idea where in CA you are but I figured better safe than sorry in keeping people informed about the arson that was committed on an official ballot box on Sunday in LA.
    That thread title is what made me check the status of my ballot. Luckily, I live in NorCal so it didn't happen up here. Plus, it would be a little weird if the ballot box I went to burned down, since I dropped it off in a grocery store.

    Still a shame though, hope they find out what happened / charge those that caused it.

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1161800.html

    Reporters at the New York Post, including Bruce Golding, refused to let their names be put on the story because of their own concerns, according to the New York Times.

    In the end the story appeared in the paper with two bylines, Emma-Jo Morris and Gabrielle Fonrouge.

    Ms Morris is a former associate producer on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show and had never had a New York Post byline before, according to the Times.

    Her Instagram account, which is now private, had pictures of her posing with Steve Bannon, who is quoted in the story, and Roger Stone, a friend of the president.

    New York Post insiders told the Times that Ms Fonrouge had little to do with the story and only found out she was bylined on it after it was published.
    Again, there's a mountain of evidence raising extremely valid questions about the validity of this reporting. This is not the way major stories are broken, at least not major stories with any credibility.

    Woodward and Bernstein put their names on their Watergate reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Lol as if even emails are needed..his son became head of ukraine's largest gas company when joe was vice president n involved with overthrow of democratically elected president, government & parliament in ukraine through Obama sponsored Maidan coup. You need to be a special kind of person not to think they aren't involved.

    That would be like Jeb Bush becoming head of Iraq's largest oil company during president George Bush's desert storm 2 iraq war n then deny there's any connection n conflict of interest.

    LOL
    He didn't become head of anything, he was a board member as a lawyer. And who did Joe Biden overthrow? What the actual fuck are you smoking?

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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...-claims-430136

    “They have two standards: one for one campaign, one for the other. But I do believe that additional lawsuits will be filed perhaps as early as today to go after that,” Meadows said.

    “Listen, it’s not just the campaigns,” he added. “They’re now starting to censor, actually, reporters. That’s a dangerous place for them to go when they’re the arbiter of what they deem to be the truth.”
    Hey, if Republicans want to repeal 230 and have ALL their posts manually reviewed before they're allowed to go live, go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    I always try to encouraged fact-based discussions. And I don't post opinions which are hateful against disenfranchised groups nor opinions that are blatantly counterfactual. But by all means, engage in caricatures and stereotypes that reinforce such bigotry. I'm used to it.
    Bull-fucking-shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I thought you didn't believe in anonymous source?
    Only when they help him, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Please provide your evidence...I'll wait.

    FYI, the Director of National Intelligence thinks otherwise:

    “It’s funny that some of the people who complain the most about intelligence being politicized are the ones politicizing the intelligence. Unfortunately, it is Adam Schiff who said the intelligence community believes the Hunter Biden laptop and emails on it are part of a Russian disinformation campaign.”

    “Let me be clear: the intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress.”
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-ex...mps-intel-czar

    And the FBI says he is lying. They are looking into Russian Disinformation. And that Ratfucker Ratcliffe is only sucking Trump's taint. Ratcliffe probably isn't even qualified to be in his role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    I asked you for a citation that Giuliani/Bannon were, in fact, one of the corroborating sources as you specifically asserted. Thank you for admitting that you were speculating.
    Womp womp. No speculation necessary. John Paul Mac Isaac, Giuliani, and Bannon are the source of the supposed emails. Together. Whom you choose to credit is simply a matter of perspective.

    Of course, Mac Isaac apparently has a medical condition that prevents him from recalling any useful (read: inconvenient) information, so the corroboration almost certainly doesn't come from him.

    That leaves Giuliani and/or Bannon.

    Check-fucking-mate.


    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    If you felt I was being condescending by asking you to back up your assertion with fact, please know that was not my intent.
    Your first sentence, by itself, asked for the citation. The second was completely unnecessary and was just shitty condescension, without even waiting to see if I'd post the source. Your intent was clear, I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Two sources corroborated the email.
    We have had more sources corroborate a Trump thing, and you still hate it. Just like when even FOX NEWS said that Trump said that Military members and soldiers that died were losers, they had multiple sources, for them alone, and the other publications had even more sources, yet people like you hated their anonymous sources.

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    In which Martha McSally forgets who she's running against in Arizona.

    This is Scott Kelly, also an astronaut but not running for public office.

    She's running against Mark Kelly, his identical twin who remained on earth while Scott spent a year in space.

    I mean, I get that identical twins can get confusing, but it's hardly as if the brothers aren't public entities that have been widely reported on. It should be easy to find images of them without getting them confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You mean the DNI who is a devout Trumpster... who has no experience in national intelligence...
    Don't forget that he is probably in his role illegally, like the former head of DHS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Bull-fucking-shit.

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    Only when they help him, obviously.

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-ex...mps-intel-czar

    And the FBI says he is lying. They are looking into Russian Disinformation. And that Ratfucker Ratcliffe is only sucking Trump's taint. Ratcliffe probably isn't even qualified to be in his role.
    Outside the career peep's I would argue nobody in the entire executive branch is qualified to be in their role. And it's a disaster how many career peeps are now gone simply because of Trump, Biden is gonna have a lot of work ahead of him if he wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Yeah. Who do you think is lying here...Ratcliffe or Lying Adam Schiff?
    Ratcliffe. He has done it before, will do it again, and will do anything to suck the cheeto dust off Trump's balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    You post in bad faith....I should have figured as much.
    Says the guy that has had multiple problems with anonymous sources before, and now you want to use them? Talk about being a fucking hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Please provide your evidence...I'll wait.

    FYI, the Director of National Intelligence thinks otherwise:

    “It’s funny that some of the people who complain the most about intelligence being politicized are the ones politicizing the intelligence. Unfortunately, it is Adam Schiff who said the intelligence community believes the Hunter Biden laptop and emails on it are part of a Russian disinformation campaign.”

    “Let me be clear: the intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress.”
    lol demanding evidence but refusing to give any when asked by several people on several topics.

    But you are so honest and such a good faith poster.....
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

  15. #18795
    Quote Originally Posted by 57States View Post
    I read the article. Why does Mediaite get the benefit of the doubt? I suppose "two sources familiar with the matter" is sufficient for you as long as it supports orange man bad huh?
    Because Fox News didn't run the story til Murdoch's other publications were stupid enough to run it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    And you seem to be missing the ball game. The two sources were from Fox News - they are literally listed in the Mediate story, quoted directly.
    I disagree with your inference. In you defense, the article is poorly worded. This sentence:

    "Fox News declined to comment on this story."

    ...is immediately followed by statements supposedly made by Baier and Chrissy Wallace. So which is it?
    I'm Joe Biden and I forgot this message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57States View Post
    I disagree with your inference. In you defense, the article is poorly worded. This sentence:

    "Fox News declined to comment on this story."

    ...is immediately followed by statements supposedly made by Baier and Chrissy Wallace. So which is it?
    Because they're commenting in their personal capacity and not as official spokespeople for the Fox News corporation?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ils-is-sketchy

    There's Baier on his show saying those very words.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1161800.html

    And there's Wallace saying he understands the concerns and that Giuliani isn't a reliable source.

    There's a difference between Fox employees saying things on their shows, attributed to them, and a spokesperson for Fox News speaking on behalf of the corporation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    When has Trump ever used something as an example that he doesn't do himself?

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    “Because it’s sort of gross to talk about, right? So I won’t talk about the fact that people have to flush their toilet 15 times. I will not talk about it. I’ll only talk about showers,” he continued. “This way they can’t report it.”




    Trump is still doing his best Hank Hill impression. Also, apparently dishwashers need to be run 10-15 times to get the dishes clean. I'm genuinely wondering when the last time Trump ever touched a dishwasher was.

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