Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Inuyaki]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1318170176660135936

Just broke 1 million likes.
LOL, what a gigantic own goal by Trump.

[Edge-]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/u...-syndrome.html

The strange sound came at night: a crack like a marble striking the floor of the apartment above them.

Mark Lenzi and his wife had lightheadedness, sleep issues and headaches, and their children were waking up with bloody noses — symptoms they thought might be from the smog in Guangzhou, China, where Mr. Lenzi worked for the State Department. But air pollution could not explain his sudden memory loss, including forgetting names of work tools.

What began as strange sounds and symptoms among more than a dozen American officials and their family members in China in 2018 has turned into a diplomatic mystery spanning multiple countries and involving speculation about secret high-tech weapons and foreign attacks.

One of the biggest questions centers on whether Trump administration officials believe that Mr. Lenzi and other diplomats in China experienced the same mysterious affliction as dozens of diplomats and spies at the American Embassy in Cuba in 2016 and 2017, which came to be known as Havana Syndrome. American employees in the two countries reported hearing strange sounds, followed by headaches, dizziness, blurred vision and memory loss.

But the government’s treatment of the episodes has been radically different. The State Department, which oversaw the cases, has produced inconsistent assessments of patients and events, ignored outside medical diagnoses and withheld basic information from Congress, a New York Times investigation found.

In Cuba, the Trump administration withdrew most of its staff members from the embassy and issued a travel warning, saying U.S. diplomats had experienced “targeted attacks.” President Trump expelled 15 Cuban diplomats from Washington and started an independent review, though Cuba denied any involvement.

The administration took a softer approach with China. In May 2018, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who was the C.I.A. director during the Cuba events, told lawmakers that the medical details of one American official who had fallen ill in China were “very similar and entirely consistent” with the syndrome in Cuba. The administration evacuated more than a dozen federal employees and some of their family members.

The State Department soon retreated, labeling what happened in China as “health incidents.” While the officers in Cuba were placed on administrative leave for rehabilitation, those in China initially had to use sick days and unpaid leave, some officers and their lawyers say. And the State Department did not open an investigation into what happened in China.

The administration has said little about the events in China and played down the idea that a hostile power could be responsible. But similar episodes have been reported by senior C.I.A. officers who visited the agency’s stations overseas, according to three current and former officials and others familiar with the events.

That includes Moscow, where Marc Polymeropoulos, a C.I.A. officer who helped run clandestine operations in Russia and Europe, experienced what he believes was an attack in December 2017. Mr. Polymeropoulos, who was 48 at the time, suffered severe vertigo in his hotel room in Moscow and later developed debilitating migraine headaches that forced him to retire.

The cases involving C.I.A. officers, none of which have been publicly reported, are adding to suspicions that Russia carried out the attacks worldwide. Some senior Russia analysts in the C.I.A., officials at the State Department and outside scientists, as well as several of the victims, see Russia as the most likely culprit given its history with weapons that cause brain injuries and its interest in fracturing relations among Washington, Beijing and Havana.

The C.I.A. director remains unconvinced, and State Department leaders say they have not settled on a cause.

Critics say disparities in how the officers were treated stemmed from diplomatic and political considerations, including the president’s desire to strengthen relations with Russia and win a trade deal with China.

There's more, but suffice to say that the Trump administration is not protecting our diplomats. Weird that I had barely even heard about the diplomats in China suffering from the same mysterious symptoms that those in Cuba did a few years back.

More in the link.

[cubby]

I disagree with your inference. In you defense, the article is poorly worded. This sentence:

"Fox News declined to comment on this story."

...is immediately followed by statements supposedly made by Baier and Chrissy Wallace. So which is it?

You answered your own question. You're assuming the two items are mutually exclusive, but they are not. Fox News could have not commented as an organization, while the Baier and Wallace quotes happened, commenting for themselves as Fox News employees.

So the answer is both.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/u...-syndrome.html



There's more, but suffice to say that the Trump administration is not protecting our diplomats. Weird that I had barely even heard about the diplomats in China suffering from the same mysterious symptoms that those in Cuba did a few years back.

More in the link.

Whoa - that's exactly the same thing as Cuba. And China and Cuba have had a cozy relationship for years now. It would be a good place to test advance weapons like that without a chance of getting caught.

[Thepersona]

IPSOS polls showing Biden's lead narrowing in Pennsylvania. As of now, I'd say that AZ, FL, NC & PA are going to go right down to the wire. Biden might even win big in the popular vote but those states will be the real deciders. I would prepare for a very bumpy last 14 days of election cycle.

For what it's worth though, take the individual polls with a grain of salt, as pointed out by 538. Polling averages are a better indicator. Still, the next month is going to be pretty raucous, so keep your head screwed on straight. Lots of drama I'm sure between now and the PS5 release date.

Isnt the IPSOS poll a bit of REP leaning? afaik, his polling has been rather stable.

[postman1782]

Isnt the IPSOS poll a bit of REP leaning? afaik, his polling has been rather stable.

Ipsos is an online only pollster. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

Which makes it an easily swayed poll and can have bots take the poll. https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/...09_23_2020.pdf This is an example of a poll from September 23, 2020, and the last page they state that everything is online with only 1005 adults but only 586 likely voters.

Their methodology is severely flawed.

[Thepersona]

Ipsos is an online only pollster. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

Which makes it an easily swayed poll and can have bots take the poll. https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/...09_23_2020.pdf This is an example of a poll from September 23, 2020, and the last page they state that everything is online with only 1005 adults but only 586 likely voters.

Their methodology is severely flawed.

Also, the last 2 polls that they conducted had a sample of around 650 likely voters. Considering that in Penn there are at the very least around 5M Voters, 600 for a sample is not statistically significant (you need around 1k to have a statistically significant sample, with 3% margin of error).

[Hinastorm]

Welp, they're gonna mute the mics.

https://www.axios.com/mics-muted-pre...campaign=onhrs

T-minus 2 hours until Trump cancels the debate. His last chance to turn a failed election around.

[Thepersona]

Welp, they're gonna mute the mics.

https://www.axios.com/mics-muted-pre...campaign=onhrs

T-minus 2 hours until Trump cancels the debate. His last chance to turn a failed election around.

I mean, it's not only that. He HAS to provide a negative test. Also they didnt budge when he tried to change the debate subject (AFAIK it's COVID ATM).

[DingDongKing]

Ipsos is an online only pollster. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

Which makes it an easily swayed poll and can have bots take the poll. https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/...09_23_2020.pdf This is an example of a poll from September 23, 2020, and the last page they state that everything is online with only 1005 adults but only 586 likely voters.

Their methodology is severely flawed.

This makes me feel somewhat better. My anus is going to invert over the next month. I can just tell. And I’m in the U.K.

[kaid]

This makes me feel somewhat better. My anus is going to invert over the next month. I can just tell. And I’m in the U.K.

Honestly until everything is done assume everything is going down to the wire and fight accordingly. Better people nervous than thinking they have this in the bag and to not bother voting.

[DingDongKing]

Honestly until everything is done assume everything is going down to the wire and fight accordingly. Better people nervous than thinking they have this in the bag and to not bother voting.

Agreed. And in other news, the cunt giving Giuliani information just got banned from Facebook for being a Russian operative. What a surprise. But hey? Great source for the GOP!

[Inuyaki]

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1318276809977434112

Anyone want to play Among Us with me on Twitch to get out the vote? (I’ve never played but it looks like a lot of fun)

Orange is sus

Edit:
https://www.twitch.tv/AOC

Do they plan to play today? I need to sleep normally...

[cubby]

Welp, they're gonna mute the mics.

https://www.axios.com/mics-muted-pre...campaign=onhrs

T-minus 2 hours until Trump cancels the debate. His last chance to turn a failed election around.

Interesting rules for that feature - muted only during opening/closing remarks. BUT, interruptions will "take away from allotted time". Who gets to be the time keeper? And how will that keep the debacle from happening again?

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I mean, it's not only that. He HAS to provide a negative test. Also they didnt budge when he tried to change the debate subject (AFAIK it's COVID ATM).

I hope they get independent testing for that.

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This makes me feel somewhat better. My anus is going to invert over the next month. I can just tell. And I’m in the U.K.

There is a feeling of angst and horror here in the U.S. I liken it to something akin to the spiritual destruction Hitler's reign caused the people of Germany, how the hate and horror and atrocities ate at the very soul of the people who lived there.

[Benggaul]

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1318276809977434112





Orange is sus

Edit:
https://www.twitch.tv/AOC

Do they plan to play today? I need to sleep normally...

Considering how much lying you need to do in that game this is probably just opening themselves up for a lot of criticism. hahaha

[Inuyaki]

Considering how much lying you need to do in that game this is probably just opening themselves up for a lot of criticism. hahaha

It will be fun though.

Some big streamers may be involved, it seems. Poki, xQc, Hasan, etc.... that will generate A LOT of viewers, if they make that an event to get people to vote, this cannot hurt

[Benggaul]

It will be fun though.

Some big streamers may be involved, it seems. Poki, xQc, Hasan, etc.... that will generate A LOT of viewers, if they make that an event to get people to vote, this cannot hurt

Oh no doubt. I saw that Felicia Day was interested as well. I'm just saying they'd better be prepared for the obvious comments.

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Looks like Trump and his GOP just can't catch a break even with a friendly SCOTUS:

Supreme Court rejects GOP attempt to require mail-in ballots be received by Election Day in Pennsylvania

Mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania -- a critical state for President Donald Trump's reelection chances -- will be counted if they are received within three days of Election Day even if they do not have a legible postmark, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.

Four justices dissented from the order, signaling that the court was equally divided, with Chief Justice John Roberts siding with the court's three liberals.

The ruling is a loss for state Republicans who sought to require that only ballots received by Election Day be counted.

Of course the fact that it was a tie shows just how things are going to go once that People of Praise dipshit is rammed into her seat, but still it's nice to see.

[Felya]

Had to dig a bit for this one... but, this is all anyone needs to hear about Giuliani and this PC bullshit... No one got a career boost because of 9/11 like this asshole... this is from 1999:



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https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1318276809977434112





Orange is sus

Edit:
https://www.twitch.tv/AOC

Do they plan to play today? I need to sleep normally...

What? Is that still on?

[eschatological]

AOC should make it a policy to not lie in that game, even if she's the imposter. It'd be kind of hilarious if she just pled the fifth on all her kills or just outright tried to say "technical truths" like "soandso was in electrical too!"

[Deja Thoris]

These are amazing.

https://www.thejuicemedia.com/honest-government-ads/

[Felya]

These are amazing.

https://www.thejuicemedia.com/honest-government-ads/

Yeah, I tried to push them a few months ago... Watch the one where they are discussed in parliament... it’s crazy...