Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Machismo]

If Biden is smart, he should signal to Google that he will end the lawsuit against them if he wins. Let him prove once and for all that he is more pro-business than Trump could ever be.

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I'm fairly confident PA is going blue. For one, it's Biden's home state where he has always been popular and they voted for him as VP twice. For two, 2016 was an anomaly. Before it PA hadn't gone red since 1988. I can't see Trump taking it.

PA does look to be going blue, but it went red last time. I know a lot of people in PA, and they don't seem as keen on Biden as I expected them to be. Biden needs to take back the Philly suburbs, and still put a large dent into the rural areas and the blue collar folks around Pittsburgh.

It's Biden's to lose, but it is by far the most important state this election cycle.

Edit: Pennsylvania is very pro-police (except for urban Philly). They may be more pro-police than any other state. The thing is, police officers have bought into the Us versus Them mentality that the Trumpsters are selling. Police officers will be voting red, which means their spouses will be voting red... and may mean their neighbors will do the same. It will all come down to the Philly suburbs.

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NV is a tough hill to climb for GOP. Dem has a pretty substantial registration advantage. Which is hard to beat during a high turnout election.

Nevada is merely a hope and a prayer for Trump, but he has shown that he can win those states that didn't look winnable. He's got multiple major donors in the state, who will impress upon their own people just how important it is that Trump be elected.

I still think Biden will win it, but I do not think it's as easy as the polls are showing.

[PhaelixWW]

I'm fairly confident PA is going blue. For one, it's Biden's home state where he has always been popular and they voted for him as VP twice. For two, 2016 was an anomaly. Before it PA hadn't gone red since 1988. I can't see Trump taking it.

Plus, Trump won it in 2016 by less than 45k votes. The slightest nudge would have pushed it back over. And there's been considerably more than a nudge pushing voters away from Trump / towards Biden.

[Endus]

Also, 50 doesnt even live in NY. I believe his mansion is in Connecticut.

Basically the conservative trope of "I hate cities."

Like all those times we had MM0-Conservatives complain about a 250k top marginal tax in Seattle. And they dont even live in the fucking city limits.

We get it, suburban assholes hates cities. Unless they're trying to impress some girl from AnatasiaDate.com.

The most stupid-ass part of it is that suburbia is a drain on the city. Not a benefit. Suburban development does not pay for its servicing with the property taxes levied against it. It simply costs too much for the square acreage that they take up. They're literally the leeches they're claiming urbanites to be.

Because urban development does pay for its servicing through property taxes. And more; it has to make up the shortfalls created by suburbia.

[Benggaul]

There's a cop inside the Miami polling place wearing a pro-Trump mask, which is electioneering (and possibly voter intimidation) and against the law.

Fuck Florida.

There's a followup saying that he'll be disciplined--but given that cops are barely given a slap on the wrist for even egregious offenses we'll see how that goes.

[Endus]

Ok Pat, tell me more!

Pat Robertson reports that he has been told by God that Trump will win reelection ...
and it will bring about the beginning of the End Times. https://bit.ly/35gnxV5

I'm not seeing the logic here. Does anyone on this plane speak Nutjob?

Here's the religious theological logic. Though, frankly, it's not quite what Robertson might think. Or maybe he does.

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could...vpsWXy8tPizUK0

If you don't want to follow the link (and I'm gonna abide by site rules and not go further than a link); Trump meets nearly every single Biblical descriptor of the Antichrist. Like, moreso than nearly any other world leader in history.

[Edge-]

There's a cop inside the Miami polling place wearing a pro-Trump mask, which is electioneering (and possibly voter intimidation) and against the law.

Fuck Florida.

There's a followup saying that he'll be disciplined--but given that cops are barely given a slap on the wrist for even egregious offenses we'll see how that goes.

Fire his ass. That's an obvious and intentional move on his part, he's flouting the laws and he knows it.

There should really be far, far less leniency when it comes to law enforcement breaking publicly known laws like not wearing campaign gear at a fucking polling place.

Edit: Where's his body cam? He's got a chest mount, shouldn't he have one on him?

[Thepersona]

I think Nevada will be closer than the Democrats want, and Trump needs to try and make a play for it, for no other reason that to have another path to victory that is not names Pennsylvania.

Trump is trailing in multiple states that he got in 2016, so he needs to throw as much shit at the was as he can, and hope enough sticks.

I think that there's a good chanche that polls are
underrating Biden, so there could be a total blowout. I know, 2016 PTSD and all of that.

[cubby]

Fire his ass. That's an obvious and intentional move on his part, he's flouting the laws and he knows it.

There should really be far, far less leniency when it comes to law enforcement breaking publicly known laws like not wearing campaign gear at a fucking polling place.

Edit: Where's his body cam? He's got a chest mount, shouldn't he have one on him?

Do we know if he's even a real cop?

And this is why we need a Secretary of Election Enforcement, or something similar. The FEC proved it can be cast aside without any teeth.

SEE (that works well for an acronym, lol) would have both investigative and enforcement authority. I could see it being completely independent, perhaps as a judicial branch, maybe an arm of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. Direct judicial review. Their own force. Etc.

That "cop" sitting there with a Trump mask inside a voting/polling location is the perfect example of everything wrong with this country.

[Adam Jensen]

Lincoln Project doesn't want M4A though.

Yeah we should probably remember the Lincoln Project are Republicans and though they may be useful in helping rid us of Trump, they aren't pushing a liberal agenda.

[cubby]

I think that there's a good chanche that polls are
underrating Biden, so there could be a total blowout. I know, 2016 PTSD and all of that.

I've been having the same quiet thought in the back of my head. All the polls are showing Biden way ahead, but all of thinkers are terrified of saying anything (I'm at the top of that list, to be clear), because of 2016.

But polls are statistics, with both "-" and "+" - if the plus side happens, Biden could win out on election night. (/knockswood)

[PhaelixWW]

Edit: Where's his body cam? He's got a chest mount, shouldn't he have one on him?

I feel like cameras inside polling places are frowned upon.

[cubby]

Lincoln Project doesn't want M4A though.

We don't know that for sure - remember the ACA was originally a Republican plan. Romney's plan, to be more specific.

[Thepersona]

I've been having the same quiet thought in the back of my head. All the polls are showing Biden way ahead, but all of thinkers are terrified of saying anything (I'm at the top of that list, to be clear), because of 2016.

But polls are statistics, with both "-" and "+" - if the plus side happens, Biden could win out on election night. (/knockswood)

Speaking of which. Do polls take into account people who already voted? Because if there are 35-40 MM people who have casted their ballots, what could happen then?
My question is because the polls could be tightening mostly because the majority of people who already finished the process voted for Biden, and the ones who are still left will do it for Dotardito. The pool of people who will vote is getting smaller.

[Edge-]

I feel like cameras inside polling places are frowned upon.

In voting booths in some states, yes. But body cameras for law enforcement shouldn't be an issue as they're accountability tools for the officers.

[Nurasu]

How's Tillis doing with COVID? That race is a lot more unpredictable than I hoped with Cunningham's snafu. A 50-50 Senate seems very possible, and while Harris can cast tie breakers, it seems all of the Committees would be split evenly like in '00? That would be disastrous for trying to actually hold this administration accountable.

[Edge-]

We don't know that for sure - remember the ACA was originally a Republican plan. Romney's plan, to be more specific.

Yes, we do. Bill Kristol and Rick Wilson are not going to be singing the praises of M4A anytime soon. Like, I don't know why on earth anyone would think that the Lincoln Project or the Midas group or any of these other conservative anti-Trump groups would ideologically align with liberals/progressives on these issues.

Our shared views are limited in scope, mostly that Trump is fucking dangerous and awful, though for different reasons. Once Trump is gone, the temporary alliance ends. They are not our friends. They are not our allies. They are our fellow Americans, but they do not share our world view. It's important to remember that.

And remember that Republicans writ-large voted against the ACA - Romney's plan, to begin with and spent the better part of over a decade trying to repeal it.

[Machismo]

I think that there's a good chanche that polls are
underrating Biden, so there could be a total blowout. I know, 2016 PTSD and all of that.

One thing the Democrats shouldn't do, is take any state for granted. That's why 2016 fell apart for them. I know that this isn't 2016, but the Trumspters are entrenched in their love for their messiah.

[szechuan]

50 cent won't even hit 400k what is he worried about?

50Cent admitted in his post that Trump doesn't care about Black People.

[Edge-]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...-relief-430341

Holy shit, Betsy DeVos is pretty much a supervillain. Seriously. Fuck this woman so much, we need to get her out ASAP.

Never thought I'd see a ruling with a judge calling the words (denials) of a Cabinet official "disturbingly Kafkaesque", but 2020 is just that kinda year I guess.

[Thepersona]

One thing the Democrats shouldn't do, is take any state for granted. That's why 2016 fell apart for them. I know that this isn't 2016, but the Trumspters are entrenched in their love for their messiah.

I think they're precisely not doing that. From what i've seen, Dems are running this as if they are 2 points behind, smelling blood on the water, and pushing their ground game to its breaking point. They're not complacent.