Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Adam Jensen]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...-relief-430341

Holy shit, Betsy DeVos is pretty much a supervillain. Seriously. Fuck this woman so much, we need to get her out ASAP.

Never thought I'd see a ruling with a judge calling the words (denials) of a Cabinet official "disturbingly Kafkaesque", but 2020 is just that kinda year I guess.

She hopefully won't have a job in a few months. Then she can go back to counting her yachts.

[PhaelixWW]

k, I'll trust CNN thanks.

Trusting one single news source as opposed to thinking for yourself by using math and science?

Where have I heard that before?

Fuck man, I'm so tired of that attitude.

You do you.

[beanman12345]

For chrissake, no. The article may have been updated, but the graphic wasn't. It even says "*2016 vote totals are as of November 10, but they will be higher by the time all vote-counting is complete in mid-December." as well as "Sources: CNN.com, preliminary election results as of November 10, 2016"

And the article clearly wasn't updated all that much, either, considering that it's quoting a total of 126m votes, compared to the actual total of 136.8m votes per the government report that you later linked.

Simple math would translate that 55.4% into a 60.1% just through the 126m/136.8m discrepancy, which would put it at least on par with 2012 and above 1996 and 2000 even on CNN's graph.



Already explained as a VAP vs VEP discrepancy.

Why the heck are you clinging to this so hard?

i don't really care, you keep replying so I've kept replying, but since I guess you don't want me to so I'll stop. The link I provided support your numbers, which I assume is what wiki get's it, but those numbers are wonky because of what I stated before. You have unsuccessfully convinced me to not trust CNN's numbers, sorry.

think for myself, you mean just agree with you and wiki. right.

[PhaelixWW]

i don't really care, you keep replying so I've kept replying, but since I guess you don't want me to so I'll stop. The link I provided support your numbers, which I assume is what wiki get's it, but those numbers are wonky because of what I stated before. You have unsuccessfully convinced me to not trust CNN's numbers, sorry.

think for myself, you mean just agree with you and wiki. right.

You know what? I was going to let it lie, but your absolutely fucking ridiculous obtuseness is just begging to be shown up. I mean, I literally showed my work, and you're going to dismiss it out-of-hand based on some just-after-the-election blurb?

That's just fucking amateur.

So here you go, eat your heart out on CNN telling you that I was fucking right:

The mark that 2020 would have to beat is, as McDonald noted, 1908, when 65.7% of eligible voters voted. Few elections of more recent vintage have come close to that mark, with 60.1% turnout in 2016 and 58.6% in 2012. Since the 1972 election, the first in which the voting age was dropped from 21 to 18, the highest turnout in a presidential election was in 2008, when 61.6% of voting-eligible citizens cast ballots. Every indication is that 2020 will smash that record and could approach the highest turnout ever.

Here's hoping that next time you'll actually look at the subject matter instead of plugging your ears just like a GoP'er.

[Milchshake]

Down by 40 million votes with 2 weeks to go. Trump's bold new election strategy....


Trump Taunts Lesley Stahl of ‘60 Minutes’ After Cutting Off Interview
Two weeks from Election Day, the president picked a fight with the country’s most popular television news program.

President Trump abruptly cut off an interview with the “60 Minutes” star Lesley Stahl at the White House on Tuesday and then taunted her on Twitter, posting a short behind-the-scenes video of her at the taping and noting that she had not been wearing a mask in the clip.

Mr. Trump then threatened to post his interview with Ms. Stahl ahead of its intended broadcast time on Sunday evening, calling it “FAKE and BIASED.”

The spectacle of a president, two weeks from Election Day, picking a fight with the nation’s most popular television news program began on Tuesday after Mr. Trump grew irritated with Ms. Stahl’s questions, according to two people familiar with the circumstances of the taping.

One person briefed on what took place said that Mr. Trump had spent more than 45 minutes filming with Ms. Stahl and her CBS News crew, and that the taping had not wrapped up when the president’s aides had expected it to.


Nasty Woman, Ms. Stahl

Sure, Trump is openly hostile to everyone in the press.
But Politico is very upset that Biden called a lid on their malarkey, and demands answers!

[Edge-]

District 22 – Nunes district. GOP is ahead by 3 pts with 6.3% NAV. So maybe Christmas will come early.

District 23 – McCarthy district. Looks like he is pretty save.

I know there was little hope for these two, especially McCarthy, but damn if I'm still not hoping for a surprise loss for them. Especially Nunes, fuck that asshole.

[beanman12345]

I know there was little hope for these two, especially McCarthy, but damn if I'm still not hoping for a surprise loss for them. Especially Nunes, fuck that asshole.

here's hoping. I know Texas turnout has been insane so far, wish there was any chance in hell of Ghomert Pyle to lose, doubt it.

[Xeones]

AOC was on twitch with 430k people watching playing among us while encouraging people to vote. Wonder if that is the new way to reach the young vote.

[Gerron]

Been keeping an eye on my congressional district race hoping that Gym Jordon will finally lose but it looks highly unlikely. Looks like the race in Ohio to keep an eye on is the 1st district, Steve Chabot is in a fairly close race with Kate Schroder.

[Milchshake]

One of those is not like the others...

For our communist and far left friends:

"The vast majority of Americans are not Communists"- ContraPoints, 2020

Stanning for Bernie sent Breadtube into a very silly place. Hoping Contra can lead them to a better one.

[beanman12345]

Biden eyes GOP candidates for Cabinet slots:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...cabinet-429972

"i Am tHe DeMoCrAtIc pArTy!"

lol ok

from your link

Some Cabinet positions have historically been considered less ideological than others, a “safe” slot to fill with a member of the opposite party. Both Obama and Bush appointed Transportation secretaries from the other party, for example. The Transportation Department, however, is expected to have a higher profile in a potential Biden administration that wants to focus on a major infrastructure package.

National security is another traditional spot for cross-party appointments. Clinton tapped Republican Bill Cohen to lead the Department of Defense, while Obama had two GOP officials in that role: Robert Gates and Chuck Hagel.

It's somewhat normal. though the trump admin has been anything but normal, so not sure if we need to go back. Some of those names mentioned however are super questionable at best, jeff flake? like really? At this time Ill take the names being floated with a grain of salt.

[Kaleredar]

Biden eyes GOP candidates for Cabinet slots:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...cabinet-429972

"i Am tHe DeMoCrAtIc pArTy!"

lol ok

Oh okay, so we’d better just let trump be re-elected so we can ensure those positions aren’t filled with republicans.


...Oh wait, that’s a colossally stupid thing to even tangentially imply.


Yeah, get the fuck out of here.

[postman1782]

from your link


It's somewhat normal. though the trump admin has been anything but normal, so not sure if we need to go back. Some of those names mentioned however are super questionable at best, jeff flake? like really? At this time Ill take the names being floated with a grain of salt.

He is just salty that he doesn't get his purist candidate that will do everything he wants, instead is doing stuff that we have done for a while.

[beanman12345]

He is just salty that he doesn't get his purist candidate that will do everything he wants, instead is doing stuff that we have done for a while.

Rochana wants trump because he wants chaos and anarchy, Trump is his purist candidate.

[DingDongKing]

Twitter is not real life. Twitter is not real life. Something I have to mutter to myself, out loud, almost on the daily.

There's a renewed vigor in right wing circles, from my perception, over this Hunter Biden laptop thing. Today, Rudy Giuliani said he found child porn on it, and handed it over to Delaware state police.......not when he found it, but since this scandal broke. Presumably, if he's telling the truth (hint: he isn't), he's been in possession of child porn for almost a year.

Regardless of the truth of this story (another hint: it's not true), the QAnon nuts are picking up the pedophilia angle and right wing Twitter is going nuts over it.

I honestly and truly hope there are criminal sanctions for this shit for people like Rudy and Bannon and anyone in the Trump campaign pushing this shit, up to and including Trump. These motherfuckers need to rot in jail. Especially to falsely accuse someone of pedophilia just to.....win an election against his dad?

It’s been annoying the shit out of me too. But honestly? That’s just the Twitter echo chamber for you. It’s like when everyone on Twitter was trying to connect dots claiming Trump would die of COVID. Sure, he wasn’t well but like @Breccia had said, statistically it was highly unlikely he’d die. Twitter didn’t care. It’s just a less viotriolic 4Chan.

[postman1782]

Sure, in the meantime you guys should also stop pretending that the Biden administration is going to do anything progressive or for the common americans at all.

Only a handful of posts ago the cosplay progressives were trying to convince us that a Biden administration was totes going to be progressive.

You're willingly storming into a wall of swords, because you're too afraid to see what the reality is.

Just replacing one clown-conservative with a career-conservative.

Do you want another Trump in 2024 ? Because this is how you'll get one.

Going to be impossible, because I guarantee he will probably be in jail, doesn't matter who you list, they will probably all be in jail, besides maybe Tiffany or Barron.

[PACOX]

Sure, in the meantime you guys should also stop pretending that the Biden administration is going to do anything progressive or for the common americans at all.

Only a handful of posts ago the cosplay progressives were trying to convince us that a Biden administration was totes going to be progressive.

You're willingly storming into a wall of swords, because you're too afraid to see what the reality is.

Just replacing one clown-conservative with a career-conservative.

Do you want another Trump in 2024 ? Because this is how you'll get one.

I'm with you that Biden is looking nuts right But he's the little piece of cardboard we have against maybe living long enough to see the next candidate and the hurricane barring down on us. It sucks, its shitty, we might not even make it, but its too late and too dire of a situation to not do anything.

One candidate will erase/halt any sort of progressive steps this country has taken in the last 30 years. He is boring, bland, rather ineffective, but isn't a vindictive sociopath leading an actual death cult. One who will have nothing to lose, and thus no reason to pump the brakes if he wins. The candidate may have made terrible policy decisions but he isn't..

The other candidate, as I already described, is insane with crazier people willing to die for him. No actual respect for the country or its citizens except for his zealots. He would force a political revolution for sure, but at the cost of real lives.

Both of the candidates are more or less done in 2024. By age or term limit.

I have a laundry list of criticsm against Biden from now until 2024 but I'll let certain things go until Dec 10th if that means one disaster can be traded before a loath some one.

So fuck everything about that pick but I'm not going to bash it too hard until I know the other candidate has been voted out. Im hoping if and when history repeats, we'll get it right the third time. The old Reagan dynasties and holdovers will be gone in 2024.

[Draco-Onis]

Sure, in the meantime you guys should also stop pretending that the Biden administration is going to do anything progressive or for the common americans at all.

Only a handful of posts ago the cosplay progressives were trying to convince us that a Biden administration was totes going to be progressive.

You're willingly storming into a wall of swords, because you're too afraid to see what the reality is.

Just replacing one clown-conservative with a career-conservative.

Do you want another Trump in 2024 ? Because this is how you'll get one.

So your argument is let's have a guaranteed falling off the cliff instead of a maybe falling off the cliff in 4 years? Trump is not just a clown conservative he is an existential threat to democracy. You are basically saying you rather die now than have a chance to live in 4 years.

[Thelxi]

In case anyone missed it, AOC streamed herself playing Among Us with Omar and some prominent streamers all on their best behavior.

VOD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/776770697

[Draco-Onis]

I don't know if that is true or just Democratic Party-mania.
A case can be made for either. Yes, I don't trust Trump in maintaining democracy within the USA or not being power-hungry enough to continue his 'openly crime-spree' with the law, but I've yet to see him do anything anti-democratically that hasn't been slapped down by the Supreme Court (even by his own appointments).

The worst Trump has done so far:
- fearmongered about immigrants and unsuccessfully tried to close the borders
- maintained the status quo where police brutality is concerned
- lightly enabled far-right groups to continue acting like bell-ends
- mishandled the Covid situation (but not to the extent that there is much evidence that other nations around the world handled it much better)
- gave rich people some tax breaks
- nepotism-ed the fuck out of the White House
- protected a few of his cronies to make money from the USA government

Most of those points are points a conservative Democratic President would've made or have made in the past too.
If Trump is supposed to be a Hitler, he's a very tame one. More like a Hitler-on-training-wheels, for a toddler democrat to try and practice dealing with.

ROFLMAO this has to be a joke right you only forgot

- Packed the courts with patsies to pass his policies.
- Fully supporting white supremacists, domestic terrorists and conspiracy theorists.
- Foreign influence peddling.
- Indebted to foreign powers.
- Stated article 1 let's him do whatever he wants, has argued in court that the president is above the law.
- Created an armed unit to attack civilians.
- Mass spying including drone surveillance on US soil of protesters.
- Corruption on a massive scale including being the president with more convicted felons in his cabinet than anyone else, embezzlements etc.
- Illegally took the power of the purse from congress to build his border wall.
- Using the entire government as part of his campaign.


I can go on talking about concentration camps, handmaiden supreme court nominee that will rubber stamp everything he wants etc. If you don't think the guy that loves dictators and does everything to emulate them isn't a threat to democracy I don't know what to tell you. The guard rails of democracy are creaking they won't survive another 4 years of Trump.