Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Machismo]

I know you have issue understanding this, but motives can be multiple.

Again, my displeasure with the Democratic Party does not rule out that I also am disgusted with sex offenders.

Sounds an awful lot like you're trying to confess something about yourself here instead...

And yet, it shows that actual sexual assault is not one of those motives. If it were, then you wouldn't be so happy for Trump to win.

Thanks, that's all that ever needs to be shown to display how utterly fucking disingenuous this has always been for you.

You. Got. Caught. Lying.

My displeasure with the Democratic Party's establishment is indeed so great that I'd not be upset if Trump won the elections again in 2020.

[Felya]

Again, my displeasure with the Democratic Party does not rule out that I also am disgusted with sex offenders.

It does... because electing a serial grouper 47 times over, with last assault in 2016, as the necessary evil to stop democrats... means that you care, to protect people like Trump.

[Machismo]

The truth is that I'd actually be fucking annoyed, as annoyed as I am right now at Biden being the nominee.

I'm going to be pissed off either way.




Just because you don't see the harm and danger behind continued liberalism doesn't mean other people are blind to it either.



Will Biden put more Kagans and Sotomayers on the Supreme Court up to the point that those types hold the majority?

Umm, this guy says you are lying:

My displeasure with the Democratic Party's establishment is indeed so great that I'd not be upset if Trump won the elections again in 2020.

[Felya]

Just because you don't see the harm and danger behind continued liberalism doesn't mean other people are blind to it either.

Bernie supporter, ladies and gentlemen.

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I'm not in the habit to count molested pussies to calculate which one is the worst offender.

Both are bastards.

Yes, you are... you are attacking democrats. You are lying to do it...

[arandomuser]

So, in this theoretical where your "anger" is vindicated and Trump wins and packs the SCOTUS with hardcore conservative ideologues (and the rest of the federal courts), will you be happy when corporations are given more preferential treatment for decades to come? Womens and minority rights being legally eroded and erased? Maybe Roe v. Wade overturned? More gutting of workers rights to organize?

Are all of these potential consequences, some of which may last for the remainder of your and my lifetimes, acceptable "collateral damage" so that you can feel good with your self-righteous anger?



This is ACTUAL malarky.



Are Kagan and Sotomayor neoliberals?

he reminds me of german revolutionary leftist ernst thalman, he ran in the last democratic election in the weimer republic and got 22% of the vote, he labeled the center left social democrats as "basically the same" as the nazis ( very similar to the insult "neoliberal" todaay". His slogan was actually "after hitler, us" he believed that if the nazis won there leadership would be so bad that the working class revolution would finally be motivated to rise up!
he was sent to a death camp and executed on hitlers orders
moral of the story: lesser of 2 evils is quite a bit lesser

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/e...nabled-fascism

[Machismo]

I'm not in the habit to count molested pussies to calculate which one is the worst offender.

Both are bastards.

Once again, this goes directly against your previous statement:

My displeasure with the Democratic Party's establishment is indeed so great that I'd not be upset if Trump won the elections again in 2020.

Clearly, rape and sexual assault do not actually upset you.

[Felya]

Once again, this goes directly against your previous statement:
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And this... assuming in support of Bernie:

Just because you don't see the harm and danger behind continued liberalism doesn't mean other people are blind to it either.

Repeating Trump talking points, to help the socialist Bernie? Weird...

[Felya]

I attack republicans too. My posting history is easily archived for you here to be able to validate that I do.

I've not yet figured out how I can somehow attack both republicans and democrats within every comment I make though, that would require some mastering and might be very annoying to read. It might even be very off-topic in many cases.

Dude... we can see what you are saying now... your history doesn’t help. You are literally repeating Trump’s talking points.

[Machismo]

And this... assuming in support of Bernie:



Repeating Trump talking points, to help the socialist Bernie? Weird...

It's crazy how hard these "Bernie supporters" keep pushing for Trump.

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For once you might be correct.

But like I said, my emotion in this subject is anger and displeasure. Hard to contain and at times it makes me lash out aggressively.

I'm correct all the time, thanks for admitting this never had anything to do with sexual assault for you.

It's always been about stirring shit, and pushing a false narrative. No wonder you refused to state which country you were from.

[Felya]

For once you might be correct.

But like I said, my emotion in this subject is anger and displeasure. Hard to contain and at times it makes me lash out aggressively.

Lash out at Biden only... you have never even said the name of the woman Trump attacked in 2016. Not even once...

Oh and you 100% more honest alt right, threatened her until she dropped the case.

[Adam Jensen]

Bernie supporter, ladies and gentlemen.

Some of them maybe.

I'm a Bernie supporter. Will likely be voting for Biden in 2020. Because despite Rochana's repeated protests, he's a vast improvement over Donald Trump. Yes, he's milquetoast, yes he's establishment, no, he's not progressive. But at least with Biden we won't continue this slide backwards into full idocracy.

Our president literally just suggested injecting people's lungs with bleach, just a few days ago. So no, I will be voting for Joe because Joe, as shitty as he is, is still an improvement over President Pine-Sol

[fwc577]

This is a bit of a fucked up way of looking at the world to be honest.

There isn't a scale of rapeyness or being morally bankrupt. Just like you can't score 'points' of honor.

There most definitely is a scale of rapeyness and being morally bankrupt. We leave it up to judges to decide that at sentencing when a crime is proven.

[Felya]

Some of them maybe.

I'm a Bernie supporter. Will likely be voting for Biden in 2020. Because despite Rochana's repeated protests, he's a vast improvement over Donald Trump. Yes, he's milquetoast, yes he's establishment, no, he's not progressive. But at least with Biden we won't continue this slide backwards into full idocracy.

Our president literally just suggested injecting people's lungs with bleach, just a few days ago. So no, I will be voting for Joe because Joe, as shitty as he is, is still an improvement over President Pine-Sol

I intentionally deleted the s at the end of supporters... I agree... this supporter...

[Machismo]

If only the New York Times wasn't trying to do the same to Tara Reade, only then I wouldn't have to point out how trashy of a news source they are... yes, even worse than alt-right youtubers.

We're still waiting on all that evidence.

Then again, you just admitted that it's not about sexual assault.

My displeasure with the Democratic Party's establishment is indeed so great that I'd not be upset if Trump won the elections again in 2020.

[Felya]

If only the New York Times wasn't trying to do the same to Tara Reade, only then I wouldn't have to point out how trashy of a news source they are... yes, even worse than alt-right youtubers.

I’m sorry, NYT is not threatening her life. Alt right did... you still have yet to say the name of the woman Trump abused in 2016... you have google.

[Edge-]

The truth is that I'd actually be fucking annoyed, as annoyed as I am right now at Biden being the nominee.

I'm going to be pissed off either way.

So, putting women and minority rights at risk because you're mad. Creating an even more pro-corporate judiciary, which you claim to oppose, because you're mad.

I hope you realize the fundamental irrationality and contradiction of your position here.

Just because you don't see the harm and danger behind continued liberalism doesn't mean other people are blind to it either.

There is no objective measure in which this is true.

Will Biden put more Kagans and Sotomayers on the Supreme Court up to the point that those types hold the majority?

We can imagine so, yes. He hasn't released any names, but he's confirmed he's looking for a black woman to boost representation in the court - https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/polit...nee/index.html

And if some of his past comments are anything to go on, he's not looking for another ivy-league academic. There's every indication he'd be looking to someone more like a Sotomayor or Kagan for his picks, and he'd likely replace the extremely popular RBG (whether she steps down voluntarily or leaves to due illness/death). If you think there won't be insane pressure and expectation to find someone ideologically similar in their interpretation of the law as RBG then I really don't know what to say, because there will be immense pressure to do so.

[cubby]

I’m sorry, NYT is not threatening her life. Alt right did... you still have yet to say the name of the woman Trump abused in 2016... you have google.

I see the Trumpsters are still pushing their false concerned narrative. I love seeing these people so concerned about women now that it helps their losing cause.

[eschatological]

Will Biden put more Kagans and Sotomayers on the Supreme Court up to the point that those types hold the majority?

Again, the next two justices to retire are liberals, RBG and Breyer. It's more about holding position so that eventually when Thomas retires/dies, we can flip the court.

This is simple math, that you continually refuse to accept.

If Trump wins, and say, only gets one more nomination because Breyer holds on (RBG has been wanting to retire for years, and is now fighting cancer, which is currently in remission). He'll get a 6th solid conservative pick, and his 3 staunchly conservative picks will have replaced one staunch conservative (Scalia), a true swing vote, even more swing-y that Roberts (Kennedy), and a liberal (RBG). His majority will be solidly 6-3, and if we're lucky and Thomas eventually retires/dies under a Dem president, we'll be back to square 1, a 5-4 conservative majority.

God forbid Trump gets two more picks because Breyer can't hold on, and his majority becomes 7-2. That means the Court would be lost until at least Alito and Roberts retire. And Roberts ain't retiring any time soon.

Why can't you understand this?

[Ripster42]

Why can't you understand this?

They've already cut off their nose, don't expect them to see past it.

[Edge-]

You might win me over to this reasoning if it somehow can be shown that these current (or past) liberal judges have done anything meaningful at all to stop the increase in wealth inequality or corporate influence growing larger within the USA.

SCOTUS justices aren't kings, and they're in the judicary, not the legislature. Their job is to interpret the constitutionality of those laws, and if you want to look back at rulings like Citizen's United, you saw that it was the conservative justices that led to that result as the remaining 4, including Stevens, Ginsburg, Breyer, and Sotomayor (hey, one of those names is familiar!) dissenting. Had there been another "liberal" justice I imagine the ruling would have been very different, and we wouldn't have the legal opinion that "money = speech" which is patently ludicrous.

There are limits to what justices can do. But the way you continue to talk about the SCOTUS gives off the distinct impression that you haven't the foggiest clue what it was created for, how it works, or what it does.

Until then, I honestly don't care about anything else much. Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care.

"The world is complicated and confusing and I don't understand it so burn everything down" is not gonna win you any allies...well...pretty much anywhere.