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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    It's a surprise shift. He argued like a month ago, that it's not trump's fault simply because the bill never passed on his desk, now it's because a signature on the check. whatever to shit on dem's I guess.
    It should be more frustrating for you, since his “team blue” bullshit, was literally in the middle of you and Zan having a heated argument. It was a canned response, that didn’t make sense in the middle of that argument.

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    He wanted Biden to take a drug test, we should check how much of that was projection.
    To be fair, projecting can’t be retroactive. Trump getting covid and needing drugs from embryonic research, is karmic justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It should be more frustrating for you, since his “team blue” bullshit, was literally in the middle of you and Zan having a heated argument. It was a canned response, that didn’t make sense in the middle of that argument.

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    To be fair, projecting can’t be retroactive. Trump getting covid and needing drugs from embryonic research, is karmic justice.
    Ah finally had enough of his eternal victimhood so got him on ignore, didn't even see zan respond to him, just noticed it when you responded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    who gives a shit about Celebrity Jeopardy? Not even people who watch Jeopardy really care about it. The only good thing to come of it was the SNL skits.

    Did you post this because he rightfully called out Pelosi, she snapped, and ended up looking god awful? Not to surprising, I know many on her attack anyone who speak ill of team blue. Nancy even admitted she didn't want send out another check with Trump's name on it. Purely political motivation, and showing she is no better than Trump. Both bills are kind of shitty but if Trump loses the chance of getting anything past till Feb goes to near zero. The group think in this forum is disturbing.
    This is a pretty irrational take. Either Pelosi is a corporate shill when she breaks and compromises with Republicans and lets them get away with bailing out corporations and protecting them from liability lawsuits, or she's just playing politics by not giving them everything they want up to and including reducing the amount of funding of the bill.

    Look, you guys can't have it both ways. I'm not by any means a Democratic party cheerleader but the double standard from the "bernie or bust" crowd is becoming way too obnoxious. Pick a take and stick with it please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    This is a pretty irrational take. Either Pelosi is a corporate shill when she breaks and compromises with Republicans and lets them get away with bailing out corporations and protecting them from liability lawsuits, or she's just playing politics by not giving them everything they want up to and including reducing the amount of funding of the bill.

    Look, you guys can't have it both ways. I'm not by any means a Democratic party cheerleader but the double standard from the "bernie or bust" crowd is becoming way too obnoxious. Pick a take and stick with it please.
    I hope this isn’t too out of left field... How do you get your keys back from a baby that took them? Do you provide a coherent argument, about needing to get to work and pay the bills, so the baby can have toys and food? Or... do you point at something sparkly and just take the keys from a distracted baby?

    Edit: Forgot to be fair and balanced... You don’t actually want the keys to go to work, but to have an affair with Karen, who looks a lot like Sarah Palin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I hope this isn’t too out of left field... How do you get your keys back from a baby that took them? Do you provide a coherent argument, about needing to get to work and pay the bills, so the baby can have toys and food? Or... do you point at something sparkly and just take the keys from a distracted baby?

    Edit: Forgot to be fair and balanced... You don’t actually want the keys to go to work, but to have an affair with Karen, who looks a lot like Sarah Palin.
    I thought stealing things from babies was supposed to be easy?
    I had become too accustomed to the pseudo-Left new style, whereby if your opponent thought he had identified your lowest possible motive, he was quite certain that he had isolated the only real one. This vulgar method, which is now the norm and the standard in much non-Left journalism as well, is designed to have the effect of making any noisy moron into a master analyst.
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    So the resident gets a town hall at the same time as Biden when they should have had a debate, but the resident acted a crybaby and threw a tantrum. Why is NBC rewarding this behavior? As much as they like to cry and complain about how bad the resident has been, they are doing a great job of promoting him.

    https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1316336209787006980
    The MF has been impeached. Now he needs to GTFO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omerome View Post
    So the resident gets a town hall at the same time as Biden when they should have had a debate, but the resident acted a crybaby and threw a tantrum. Why is NBC rewarding this behavior? As much as they like to cry and complain about how bad the resident has been, they are doing a great job of promoting him.

    https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1316336209787006980
    Because it makes them money. Don't let these media companies fool you into thinking they have a moral compass.
    I had become too accustomed to the pseudo-Left new style, whereby if your opponent thought he had identified your lowest possible motive, he was quite certain that he had isolated the only real one. This vulgar method, which is now the norm and the standard in much non-Left journalism as well, is designed to have the effect of making any noisy moron into a master analyst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "WHY NOT JUST GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT?! HERE'S ONE OF YOUR PEOPLE SAYING THAT!"

    "Because that's not enough, and we already did this long ago. Republicans are slow to catch up."

    "BUT TRUMP JUST TWEETED HE WANTS MORE, WHY NOT DEAL WITH THEM?!"

    Is he caucusing with the Republicans or something? 3 minutes in and Blitzer can't even pick a position to be morally outraged about with a straight, emotionless face.

    Edit: Jesus, he's not even letting Pelosi answer the question he's fucking asking her.

    "Why not call the president..."

    BECAUSE HE IS NOT THE ONE NEGOTIATING THE BILL YOU FUCKING DECAYING BAG OF DNA
    Like pelosi said to another idiot caster “you’re assuming they give a damn”

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    I thought stealing things from babies was supposed to be easy?
    It is... it’s why both sides do it... there is no easier way to steal from a baby, because their memory capacity makes it harder for them to remember. You can just keep retreating it and the baby will not remember each time. Then... to see the differences between two similar things, requires cognitive thought. Babies don’t have that...

    Both sides argument is infantile... in case I was too obtuse otherwise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Delta airline CEO airline is on record as not having fired almost anyone because people literally retired early or took nice severance packages. But yeah, they are still firing pilots, because well, I guess everything you suggested, isn't enough.


    edit - and no, it's not my job on the line, it's specifically because it's seems like it's quite literally the only thing that has the possibility to pass. I don't want anyone to lose their jobs. nobody should be back of the line. one person suffering is too many. why are you so fervently argueing to add to the pile of people suffering?

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    Yes its not enough, they still have a lot of room to raise capital without needing handouts from taxpayers. they can also accept loans from the treasury at near ZERO interest with collateral, but they refuse as they are holding out for bailout with no actual repayment. Basically they are looking for taxpayers to pay the full salary of everyone working at delta.

    So why can't every single unemployed person get full pay then on unemployment if that is what they are looking for?

    I am not the one adding to the pile, its the airlines. I cannot issue debt. I cannot issue stock to raise capital. I cannot offer collateral for Delta to borrow to pay every employee in full for another 6 months. THEY CAN.


    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post

    edit2 - funny enough, since this was brought up, I'm on disability, permanently. Your taxes, not FICA but american tax payer money, keeps a roof over my head and has for about 6 years now. I get paid from the treasury and I pay nothing back. So my perception on this might be skewed, idk.
    Did you work? Did you pay taxes before you were on disability?

    You are also not making anywhere near a pilots salary either.

    So how about we give Delta the same per person sum that you get each month or something equal to what they would get on unemployment and Delta makes up the rest??
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    This morning's hate read:

    The Anchorage Mayor has more drama than the lower 48 put together. Every sentence gets crazier than the one before....

    Bombshell: Reporter Maria Athens threatens to kill Mayor Berkowitz in disturbing voicemail




    TLDR:
    Mayor & reporter sext nudes. She melts on TV & slanders mayor as pedo, gets arrested on assault. Ex-escort who is niece of anti-masking diner owner tweets mom made it up to pump booze-infused cookie biz. Reporter leaves anti-Semitic profane tirade on vm. Mayor resigns.

    Yikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    Yes its not enough, they still have a lot of room to raise capital without needing handouts from taxpayers. they can also accept loans from the treasury at near ZERO interest with collateral, but they refuse as they are holding out for bailout with no actual repayment. Basically they are looking for taxpayers to pay the full salary of everyone working at delta.

    So why can't every single unemployed person get full pay then on unemployment if that is what they are looking for?

    I am not the one adding to the pile, its the airlines. I cannot issue debt. I cannot issue stock to raise capital. I cannot offer collateral for Delta to borrow to pay every employee in full for another 6 months. THEY CAN.




    Did you work? Did you pay taxes before you were on disability?

    You are also not making anywhere near a pilots salary either.

    So how about we give Delta the same per person sum that you get each month or something equal to what they would get on unemployment and Delta makes up the rest??
    I did work, but not enough credits to qualify for ssdi, getting disabled young kinda fucked me there. and people on unemployment att are making more then me, but only because of trump's EO otherwise they'd probably make about what I do. It's just a shitty situation, I don't want anyone unemployed. 6 years, I hate not being able to work and contribute. But I'm secure, it's just too many right now aren't.

    But Delta has always been good to it's employee's. They are the exception, not the rule. They'll be fine. They most likely will all be fine, it might take a year or two to get back to fine, but they'll get there. But in the meantime, if we can keep even some people to be able to stay employed I think we should. Though if it doesn't have employee protection and has that BS liability crap mcconnell is pushing, nope, poison. which now that I think about, probably won't go through without that, and pelosi won't allow that, so even though it's the only stimulus possibility, the probability is not likely so it doesn't even really matter at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinastorm View Post
    I'll ask you the same thing, do you think it's a good or bad thing for Pelosi to be playing politics with millions of livelihoods? I actually think it is a good thing, now. I recently changed my mind on that.

    If shes not playing politics, what is her strategy here, exactly?
    She wants the 2.2 trillion.
    Here's the political "logic;"
    GOP dicked around forever...Trump had a shit fit and flip-flopped to this current "go big or go home" probably thinking it'll help politically since things initially were questionable in regards to the election. But the polls are now looking poorly for his side of the fence, and Pelosi is smelling GOP blood. So she's probably thinking this late in the game...fuck all yall. We'll wait a couple of weeks and see how the election goes...and hey Mitch? Didn't want to deal with me now? We'll see how you like dealing with me later..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinastorm View Post
    I'm agreeing with you that her current strategy is a good thing, but I think we disagree as to why.

    It's pretty clear this is all political. If it really was only about getting stimulus out to people who need it, she would be open to small clean bills, like the one for the $1200 direct payments. Shes currently not.
    Problem is republicans would balk right after they passed the ones they wanted and never pass a single small clean bill democrats wanted.
    no compromise.

    so why would democrats do that.


    in the long run democrats holding out will help more people in bigger ways.
    Her bills also include retro payments for unemployment up to the full 600 dollars, which would help fix a lot of problems all this delay caused. Republicans want 300-400 going forward helping no one get out of the hole they got in waiting.
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    NBC News to host town hall with Trump on Thursday https://t.co/1t7GY0TNy4
    https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/...137836032?s=19

    NBC can piss off.

    This is not about both sides argument or technically each candidate is supposed to have equal time. The Orange Moron m, who was reckless, did not compromise to have a safety of a virtual town hall.

    This has been the problem of the news for past 4 years. Chasing the Shitshow for ratings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/...137836032?s=19

    NBC can piss off.

    This is not about both sides argument or technically each candidate is supposed to have equal time. The Orange Moron m, who was reckless, did not compromise to have a safety of a virtual town hall.

    This has been the problem of the news for past 4 years. Chasing the Shitshow for ratings.
    Ya NBC has terrible bias. For anyone that has watched MTP for the past few months. Chuck Todd basically turns half of the show over to a Trump flack for uncritical PR.

    Hoping that Trump gives Lester Holt or whatever host a big wet kiss.

    Considering how Trump has done in the past few town halls... it will still be a win/hold for Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/...137836032?s=19

    NBC can piss off.

    This is not about both sides argument or technically each candidate is supposed to have equal time. The Orange Moron m, who was reckless, did not compromise to have a safety of a virtual town hall.

    This has been the problem of the news for past 4 years. Chasing the Shitshow for ratings.
    Yeah, and by chasing the shitshow for ratings, they are giving him exactly what he wants - attention. Then they wonder, "how could this happen?!" if he wins again.

    Trash.
    Last edited by omerome; 2020-10-14 at 02:40 PM.
    The MF has been impeached. Now he needs to GTFO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    who gives a shit about Celebrity Jeopardy? Not even people who watch Jeopardy really care about it. The only good thing to come of it was the SNL skits.

    Did you post this because he rightfully called out Pelosi, she snapped, and ended up looking god awful? Not to surprising, I know many on her attack anyone who speak ill of team blue. Nancy even admitted she didn't want send out another check with Trump's name on it. Purely political motivation, and showing she is no better than Trump. Both bills are kind of shitty but if Trump loses the chance of getting anything past till Feb goes to near zero. The group think in this forum is disturbing.
    I didn't even watch the exchange. Wolf Blitzer is an idiot, no matter who he's talking to. I like most of the other CNN talking heads, but Blitzer in particular bothers me precisely because he's both not great at his job, and because he is, again, an idiot. The moment he's not reading off a planned script, that becomes clear, as it did in his Celebrity Jeopardy appearance. Which, yes, has easier questions and nobody cares about it much. But that's the point. Easier questions, and he was still buzzing in to get them wrong more often than he got them right. Because he's too dumb to even know what he doesn't know.

    And don't give me that "team blue" garbage. I'm not on any "team". I've crapped extensively on some "team blue" members, like Buttigieg and Gabbard. I could probably dig up posts from 2015 of me talking about how bad an idea it was to run Clinton for 2016. If you think I won't crap on Democrats for some reason, you're not responding to me or my posts, but the imaginary boogeyman you made up in your own head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Did you post this because he rightfully called out Pelosi, she snapped, and ended up looking god awful?
    If this is what you saw, then you have some mighty strong hate-blinders on, friend.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Nancy even admitted she didn't want send out another check with Trump's name on it.
    On the contrary, she said that Trump was only interested in sending out checks with his name on them and that the bill wasn't really enough to help the people who needed help. Again, she doesn't want to give up the only leverage she has in order to make sure that she can get the help out that people deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Remind me how many Republicans have won the White House since 2004 again? Seems like a dumb bit of analysis to end on.
    Politics has reached "Baseball stats" levels of stupid with some of this "analysis". "He's the first Republican to win a re-election after retiring twice, while announcing his candidacy under a full moon."

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