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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelly View Post
    Yeah, a crowd that regurarly points out how wrong you are which you dislike because boomers aren't known for introspection.
    I do not dislike someone disagreeing with me at all. It is how they express it, which I do not like. After all, most on here is going to disagree with me, esp. when it comes to politics. So it depends on which forum you are referring to. I can go to some, which just the opposite would be true.

    On another topic and more related to the subject of this thread......

    This video is why minorities should not vote for Biden. I know most on here will not even watch it and will pour condemnations down on it like crazy. But that is understandable if you hate Trump. But it is a perspective from a minority and has over 2.5 million views and close to 300k likes. So for those who want a different perspective....here it is.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    I love how for Trump supporters they think that's a defence. 'I know I'm clearly right since you guys don't like fascists. It's wrong not to like people'.
    And why should I put so much importance to a gaming forum for input? I post stuff because I can. And it is up to the viewer to decide if it is of any value. I find some posts interesting and then make up my own mind if it is any good. There are several posters on this forum I do not care to see any comments from them and I normally never do. With some, it is best to just ignore them.
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    I love it when Trump supporters post these videos going, 'look a disaffected Biden supporter! He's totally not a grifter spouting right wing talking points whilst ignoring every atrocity, failed policy and piece of racist behaviour under the Trump administration!'. Here's a hot take; Biden has evolved through the years, and has wait for it...improved a politician whilst consistently being a good man. Trump is a failure of a human and politician. He doesn't need 47 years to cement the damage that he's done in 47 months. It's time for Trump supporters to FO.

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    As a minority, that video can kick rocks and anyone else who believes in it.

    The resident is everything you should not vote for in a president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post

    This video is why minorities should not vote for Biden. I know most on here will not even watch it and will pour condemnations down on it like crazy. But that is understandable if you hate Trump. But it is a perspective from a minority and has over 2.5 million views and close to 300k likes. So for those who want a different perspective....here it is.

    So I watched 3 mins of your video and all the guy was doing was pushing the same tired and Trumpian bullshit you keep trying to push. Trump hasn't drained shit out of the swamp and in fact he has made it even worse. He has put lobbyist into positions of powers who have spent their entire careers trying to destroy the very branches they are in charge of. Then he starts to say the economy has never been better until Trump took over but that is also a load of bullshit. Lastly calling Biden a racist maybe the guy in the video should look into the Central Park 5 and even after they were exonerated Trump was still calling for them to be imprisoned or that Trump was sued by the Federal government for denying minority renters. So that guy can vote for whoever he fucking wants but guess what? I still think he is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    -snip-
    This guy is one of those guys on YouTube who says anything to make a buck. His literal latest video is "How to Make America Great Again," but most of his videos are about hustling and "entrepeneurship." As far as I can tell, he's one of those lifestyle coach types who'll say anything people want to hear.

    In the video you linked, all he does is parrot Trump talking points. There's no indication he ever was "going to vote for Biden," he's instead talking to a guy offscreen who is voting for Biden and saying, "What has he done in 47 years?" Uh, he's done a shit ton, not least of which was the Violence Against Women Act which has combatted domestic violence for 30 years. If you recall, in the 80s, beating your wife was considered "just part of marriage." He fought against that.

    His next points are all about "Biden being racist:" which are all long debunked or long-apologized for talking points. At the same time excusing all the racism Trump has displayed in his life.

    Like, this is comically bad.

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    Oh ya but Trump is totes not a racist guys because Trump has a few token black people just like the Nazi's didn't really execute over 6 million Jews because there were Jews that helped the Nazis.

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    Why isn't it the main dude, you know the one who will teach you the "7Figure Entrepreneur Formula" or "Learn How To Sell" and the "7-Figure Mindset" featured in the video about switching his vote from Biden to Trump?

    Why is the dude who appears to actually run the channel here in a video from 4 months ago, who is totally not political, complaining about how virus protections are taking our liberties and we're turning into the socialist communist union?

    :thunkingface:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Meanwhile the White House occupier does so much fucking absurd shit in a day that it would take too long to document it all.
    As I recall, @Breccia started the administration documenting it all, and...quickly found that it would've been a full time job to do so.
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    Trump is gaining support from African Americans, like it or not....https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...oars-60-durin/

    President Trump’s approval rating among Black voters jumped by 60% during the Republican National Convention even as Democrats and progressives sought to brand the Republican president as racist.

    A HarrisX-Hill poll released Friday showed Mr. Trump’s net approval with Black voters from Aug. 22-25, which included the first two days of the RNC, rose to 24%, up from 15% in the pollster’s Aug. 8-11 survey.

    The poll also found his approval rating among Hispanic voters during the same period increased slightly from 30% to 32%, while his support among White voters decreased by the same margin, ticking down from 54% to 52%.


    What it is now, I do not know. But for sure we will find out what percentage of the minority vote Trump will have on election day. I am not saying he will get the majority of the minority vote, but I will not be surprised if he gets a lot more than some think. Will it be enough to tip the scales to his favor? *shrugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Trump is gaining support from African Americans, like it or not....https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...oars-60-durin/
    It's weird that they are backing a white supremacist, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Also - anyone see Biden creating a new Cabinet position? Secretary of Elections (stupid name, someone make it better).
    Or just properly staff the FEC and give them some teeth for enforcement.
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    LOL never change guys. I guess you won't because conservatism.
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    I do care what people on this forum think of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's weird that they are backing a white supremacist, don't you think?
    But they’re not. That was his net approval rating not likely to vote for poll. And it’s from August. Since then he’s disparaged everyone under the sun and worsened the pandemic crisis. His convention bounce is long gone...like it or not.

    Trump supporters linking the Washington Times is like Trump linking the BabylonBee.

    ‘I just post stuff in case people want to read it, nothing else. But I’ll be a passive aggressive grifter whilst doing it. Don’t mind me. The article is also 2 months old, but don’t let the facts come in the way.’

    Anyway, another supporter of fascism for the ignore list (Not you, Mach).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Trump is gaining support from African Americans, like it or not....https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...oars-60-durin/

    A HarrisX-Hill poll released Friday showed Mr. Trump’s net approval with Black voters from Aug. 22-25, which included the first two days of the RNC, rose to 24%, up from 15% in the pollster’s Aug. 8-11 survey.
    Why on earth are you posting a single poll from nearly two months ago as evidence of... anything?

    More recent polls:
    10/11-15, IBD/TIPP: 86/10%
    10/8-13, Marist: 83/16%
    10/11-13, Morning Consult: 87/8%
    10/5-12, UMass Lowell: 83/8%
    10/11-13, YouGov: 77/3%

    But more importantly, here's the most recent HarrisX poll, you know, the same one you're posting about from back in mid/late August..
    10/10-13, HarrisX: 74/9%

    I don't know why you keep doing this to yourself, I really don't.


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    We know exactly why he's doing it. He's shilling for Trump with lies and disinformation, just like his candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    And he'll wave it away as "I just thought it was interesting. lol!"

    Exactly what Trump does, really. He'll say something ridiculous (and usually wildly inaccurate), get some flack for it, then backtrack and say it was just something he heard.
    Isn't it interesting that a lot of people say they heard someone talking about a guy they know who says (bullshit).
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Why on earth are you posting a single poll from nearly two months ago as evidence of... anything?

    More recent polls:
    10/11-15, IBD/TIPP: 86/10%
    10/8-13, Marist: 83/16%
    10/11-13, Morning Consult: 87/8%
    10/5-12, UMass Lowell: 83/8%
    10/11-13, YouGov: 77/3%

    But more importantly, here's the most recent HarrisX poll, you know, the same one you're posting about from back in mid/late August..
    10/10-13, HarrisX: 74/9%

    I don't know why you keep doing this to yourself, I really don't.
    Because that is what Ghostpanther does.

    He also has done that shit over and over, like posting an April poll in August.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...6#post52550336

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Trump is gaining support from African Americans, like it or not....https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...oars-60-durin/

    President Trump’s approval rating among Black voters jumped by 60% during the Republican National Convention even as Democrats and progressives sought to brand the Republican president as racist.

    A HarrisX-Hill poll released Friday showed Mr. Trump’s net approval with Black voters from Aug. 22-25, which included the first two days of the RNC, rose to 24%, up from 15% in the pollster’s Aug. 8-11 survey.

    The poll also found his approval rating among Hispanic voters during the same period increased slightly from 30% to 32%, while his support among White voters decreased by the same margin, ticking down from 54% to 52%.


    What it is now, I do not know. But for sure we will find out what percentage of the minority vote Trump will have on election day. I am not saying he will get the majority of the minority vote, but I will not be surprised if he gets a lot more than some think. Will it be enough to tip the scales to his favor? *shrugs.
    https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-amer...nts-nationwide

    Tool, here is there most recient poll you already know exsist.

    https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-amer...nts-nationwide

    black voters.

    Biden 74%
    Trump 9%

    NINE FUCKING PERCENT.

    Not 24% Not 15%... 9!

    Great try though trying to pawn off a old ass approval rating poll as something that is going to translate into more votes then the average over the last several elections and in most cases a lower %.

    But that is what you always do right?:
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Some different news to keep an eye on:

    House progressives warn Biden on corporate hires: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...cabinet-429736

    Left-wing House members including Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Katie Porter, Ayanna Pressley, Raúl Grijalva and candidate Jamaal Bowman along with 39 progressive groups signed a letter, obtained by POLITICO, arguing that no C-suite level corporate executives or corporate lobbyists ought to have Senate-confirmed positions in a Biden administration.

    “Despite the unrivaled corruption of the Trump administration, the chokehold that corporate giants and the rich hold over our political system is not new," said Illinois Rep. Jesús “Chuy” García, who also signed the letter. "Their power and influence in American politics has been growing for years."


    The People Vote For Biden, but Corporations are already deciding Biden's Policies and Cabinet, disregarding the Biden Campaign Agenda: https://newrepublic.com/article/1377...illary-clinton

    Michael Froman, who is now U.S. trade representative but at the time was an executive at Citigroup, wrote an email to Podesta on October 6, 2008, with the subject “Lists.” Froman used a Citigroup email address. He attached three documents: a list of women for top administration jobs, a list of non-white candidates, and a sample outline of 31 cabinet-level positions and who would fill them. “The lists will continue to grow,” Froman wrote to Podesta, “but these are the names to date that seem to be coming up as recommended by various sources for senior level jobs.”

    The cabinet list ended up being almost entirely on the money. It correctly identified Eric Holder for the Justice Department, Janet Napolitano for Homeland Security, Robert Gates for Defense, Rahm Emanuel for chief of staff, Peter Orszag for the Office of Management and Budget, Arne Duncan for Education, Eric Shinseki for Veterans Affairs, Kathleen Sebelius for Health and Human Services, Melody Barnes for the Domestic Policy Council, and more. For the Treasury, three possibilities were on the list: Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, and Timothy Geithner.

    This was October 6. The election was November 4. And yet Froman, an executive at Citigroup, which would ultimately become the recipient of the largest bailout from the federal government during the financial crisis, had mapped out virtually the entire Obama cabinet, a month before votes were counted. And according to the Froman/Podesta emails, lists were floating around even before that.

    Many already suspected that Froman, a longtime Obama consigliere, did the key economic policy hiring while part of the transition team. We didn’t know he had so much influence that he could lock in key staff that early, without fanfare, while everyone was busy trying to get Obama elected. The WikiLeaks emails show even earlier planning; by September the transition was getting pre-clearance to assist nominees with financial disclosure forms.

    If the 2008 Podesta emails are any indication, the next four years of public policy are being hashed out right now, behind closed doors. And if liberals want to have an impact on that process, waiting until after the election will be too late.

    Who gets these cabinet-level and West Wing advisory jobs matters as much as policy papers or legislative initiatives.
    These are legitimate concerns. The business sections I am reading imply that corporate America is already working out the details of a Biden win, and no doubt this includes who they allow in his cabinet.

    This cannot be stopped.

    If Biden wins, and I think this has a 66% chance of happening, then there are two situations.

    If republicans keep the Senate, then the Biden years will be placeholder years. A Biden administration would then just be 4 years of divided government with not too many major changes, including republicans maintaining complete control of the Supreme Court and the judiciary. What liberals should try to achieve in this case is to get the government working effectively again. Getting the EPA and FDA and Labor Department and others to do more of what they are supposed to do will be huge all by itself, and will be a lot of work. It was easy for Trump to destroy these and other departments. Rebuilding them will be a lot tougher.

    If democrats get the Senate, then in my opinion liberals need to focus on 2 or at most 3 priorities, and just keep the pressure on. One of these issues absolutely has to be Black Lives Matter (and gender inequality) issues.

    And then I would recommend liberals focusing on exactly 1 (or AT MOST 2) economic priorities to focus on and keep the pressure on. This would most likely be health care related, but there is so much that needs to be done. Focusing on one means we might get fewer and smaller victories rather than trying too much and getting blamed for things not going as fast as needed for needed victories. But we could then build on those for the future.

    It IS too late to prevent a Biden cabinet from being staffed solely by people very friendly to corporate America. This is just one more obstacle to overcome next year (and it only matters at all if Biden wins and democrats take control of the Senate).

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    Trump supporter caught being a liar. Shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post

    And why should I put so much importance to a gaming forum for input? I post stuff because I can. And it is up to the viewer to decide if it is of any value. I find some posts interesting and then make up my own mind if it is any good. There are several posters on this forum I do not care to see any comments from them and I normally never do. With some, it is best to just ignore them.
    "several"

    Umm, you left out the word "hundred".

    you can't even be honest about that, how embarrassing.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Why on earth are you posting a single poll from nearly two months ago as evidence of... anything?

    More recent polls:
    10/11-15, IBD/TIPP: 86/10%
    10/8-13, Marist: 83/16%
    10/11-13, Morning Consult: 87/8%
    10/5-12, UMass Lowell: 83/8%
    10/11-13, YouGov: 77/3%

    But more importantly, here's the most recent HarrisX poll, you know, the same one you're posting about from back in mid/late August..
    10/10-13, HarrisX: 74/9%

    I don't know why you keep doing this to yourself, I really don't.
    For one thing, you are better at digging this stuff up. lol!

    But even those show Biden is not going to get maybe even the same level of minority votes that Hillary got. 12% African Americans would vote for Trump according to the Hill/Harris poll? If that turns out true, Biden will lose a lot of votes from African Americans. I hope it is true.

    And as a side note, while I appreciate your attitude, keep in mind, I do not care what people on this forum think of me. I really don't.

    While this is not reflective of the state as a whole, I did find it interesting. For one thing, I drink the beer the section mentioned in the state comes from. lol.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...le_144457.html

    Though stoic, there’s nothing timid about this region’s backing of Trump. Howard Merrick, Schuylkill’s GOP chairman, said, “The enthusiasm is much greater than four years ago.” As Merrick noted, there’s an overwhelming demand for campaign signs at the party’s headquarters in downtown Pottsville, the county seat and home to Yuengling’s brewery. Those who stop by are often “Democrats who tell me they’re Democrat, but still ask for signs -- that didn’t happen four years ago,” he said. “If I had more signs, I could give out more at a faster rate, but I don’t have enough signs.”
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