1. #25781
    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    All that liberal money went to... resurrecting the Republican Party. Good job guys, you did it.

    https://twitter.com/Angelux1111/stat...65473575624704
    You realize that's great for us? Who do you think they'll take votes from?
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

  2. #25782
    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Well the ones trying to storm a vote counting station in a democratic stronghold literally are Nazi's.

    Its what they did in the 1930's and its what these Nazi's are doing now.
    I have not seen any actual news reports of this, have you?

    Never-ending, I saw the video.
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    I've said it before, I'll say it again. The "moderate republican" fan fiction only exists on MSNBC's Morning Joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    Iirc, NV is not counting any more votes until tomorrow. I don't know why, but I think it's suspended.
    Yea, I believe NV has already reported all in person election day results, and any early voting or mail-ins received by 11/2. I think the update tomorrow is for additional legal mail-in ballots received post 11/2. I think I heard additional counting will start 9 AM pacific time tomorrow with results later in the day.
    Last edited by Saladbar; 2020-11-04 at 09:20 PM.

  5. #25785
    CNN finally projected Michigan.

  6. #25786
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Hence why I never donated to them : P

    I mean, that's a nice video that got him blocked, but I'd hope most of us were well aware that these were hardcore Republicans that were only temporary allies in removing Trump (and getting a paycheck since no Republican will hire them right now) and wouldn't be happy and able to achieve an erection unless they knew we were spending tens of millions of dollars to bomb poor brown people for their oil.
    There were unfortunately tons of liberals who fucking fell for it and I hope everyone calls them out on it and shames them for it. If we want a strong left in this country, we can't have people on the left throwing their money at Republican grifters to "resurrect the Republican Party". Absolutely not.

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    I had to run some errands today, listened to some AM radio to see how they were handling it. Let's just say, not well.

    For the brief car ride I took, I'm pretty sure I heard all 5 stages of grief.

    It started with denial about how it could possible happen to Republican strongholds like Wisconsin, Arizona, and Michigan.

    It then turned to Anger about how America was going to fail under Biden.

    It then turned to bargaining how in Wisconsin, Jo Jorgensen siphoned away 30,000 Republican votes and at Kanye for not getting on the ballot.

    Then it turned to Depression as they took calls from Libertarian voters. They wanted to know why? One of the libertarians compared it to waking up and being forced to decide if you want to smash your right big toe or left big toe with a hammer. And at least they could sleep well at night even if Jo didn't win.

    Then it turned to Acceptance as he discussed how Trump shouldn't contest Wisconsin and concede and not end up turning this election into 2000 Florida.

  8. #25788
    If the Lincoln Project manages to steer the republican party back into some version of sane then that's fine by me. I would love to actually have a choice with my vote instead of automatically voting dem because the alternative is fucking crazy. I absolutely hated 2016 and I may even despise 2020 even more. I didn't want this election to be what it is.

  9. #25789
    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    There were unfortunately tons of liberals who fucking fell for it and I hope everyone calls them out on it and shames them for it. If we want a strong left in this country, we can't have people on the left throwing their money at Republican grifters to "resurrect the Republican Party". Absolutely not.
    I imagine their liberal funding is going to pretty much dry up after this, especially if Biden wins. Which is good.

    And don't worry, if I ever do meet someone that donated to them I'll be sure to remind them they were scammed. Hard.

  10. #25790
    Good speech from Biden right now. Couple of fluffs but good speech. Not a victory speech but making it clear he believes he has won and that the votes must all be counted. Pointed out that his majorities in some places are larger than Trump's were in 2016. Trump will be incensed lol.

  11. #25791
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    So why is it lasting this long after voting closes to see who wins?
    Because there were states who weren't legally allowed to start counting votes till polls closed. Like PA had over 2 million mail in votes and zero in person early voting.

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    google says its 248 v 214 , doesn't that mean 214 has to be very lucky to win?

    not sure how usa voting works...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    There were unfortunately tons of liberals who fucking fell for it and I hope everyone calls them out on it and shames them for it. If we want a strong left in this country, we can't have people on the left throwing their money at Republican grifters to "resurrect the Republican Party". Absolutely not.
    Fell for what, exactly?

    The Lincoln Project's goals have literally never been secret. They were open about being Republicans who were disillusioned with the direction of the party, and that their goal was to bring about reform for that party.

    There's nothing to shame them for. They were never Democrats and were never working to serve any Democratic interests. Wherever did you get that impression?


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    Imagine John McCain giving a giant middle finger from beyond the grave right now to Trump.

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    Exit polls...are not good data.

    The only redeeming factor to that particular one is that they have historical data, which might show an upward trend, but is still dependent on a number of factors that are almost intangible when it comes to exit polls.

    What would we need to see are registered Republican percentages and their votes. That would be hard data regarding percentages that Trump retained.

  16. #25796
    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    Florida went to Donald Trump, and they just voted to raise the minimum wage to $15. How do you explain that? Maybe it's that people are rejecting decades of neoliberal austerity politics (like Joe Biden) in favor of progressive policies.
    I mean, they're literally voting for more money in their pockets, without having to vote in a "socialist Dem". Which they clearly don't want to elect.

    Voters don't mind a piecemeal social policy, but they want those anti-socialists/anti-communists seated in Congress to "protect them" from the great evils of NON-AMERICA. As more and more POC find themselves in the American jingoistic mindset, and not outside it, they skew more and more conservative. It's why Asians have also been more conservative than black and brown folks, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I've said it before, I'll say it again. The "moderate republican" fan fiction only exists on MSNBC's Morning Joe.
    Well, specifically it doesn't exist with the voters, only with the establishment politicians themselves.

    There was a huge number of Republican officials and politicians that flipped to Biden. Far more defectors then any other Presidential election in recent times. However, it had zero impact on actual Republican voters, who still voted for Trump. This is more an indictment of the party becoming radically out of touch with its voters then anything else.

    The Democratic party could easily be put in the same situation in a couple election cycles, all it takes is a popular outsider to strip the party away from them. Someone like maybe the Rock, or some other celebrity could leave them out in the cold if they wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Fell for what, exactly?

    The Lincoln Project's goals have literally never been secret. They were open about being Republicans who were disillusioned with the direction of the party, and that their goal was to bring about reform for that party.

    There's nothing to shame them for. They were never Democrats and were never working to serve any Democratic interests. Wherever did you get that impression?
    Shame liberals who gave them money. The Lincoln Project raised almost $70 million from mostly liberals. Any liberal who gave Republicans money to resurrect the Republican party should be shamed.

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    My biggest fear is Nevada that's it in terms of the Presidential race, am I wrong to be concerned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    All that liberal money went to... resurrecting the Republican Party. Good job guys, you did it.

    https://twitter.com/Angelux1111/stat...65473575624704
    I would be ok with a Republican party that had genuine constructive policy ideas. Someone needs to kick out all of the lunatics that have taken over and turned the party into xenophobic, hardline Christian, anti-lgbtq, anti-minority, anti-environment, anti-science nutjobs. Unfortunately there is no one left in the party to kick out that group.

    An actual "Conservative" party that has a good back and forth about how to best run the country is welcome. The current Republican party ain't that.

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