Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Belize]

They're waiting for the dump in Maricopa at 9 to verify Trump isn't running +30. That's literally the only way he can win AZ.

It will be called almost immediately after the dump.

9 eastern or AZ time?

[PhaelixWW]

It's down to a 212k difference in PA, still with 11% left to count.

[Kaleredar]

unlike republicans, dems can walk and chew gum at the same time. Besides with gop looking to hold the senate, not much to do after Biden revokes all of trump's executive orders, and the house just needs to resend whats already on mitches desk in the new session, while making very loud noise about the covid relief and such bills be REsent to mitch

If Biden wins, I think it'll look pretty bad for the GOP senate if house democrats say "we have this stimulus set up to be sent out to the American people, and Biden has said he's ready to sign it, but McConnell just wont look at it!"

[luc54]

It's down to a 212k difference in PA, still with 11% left to count.

With this rest of votes need to be at least close to 66% in favor of Biden for him to win PA. Which counties are left?

[Redwyrm]

9 eastern or AZ time?

9:00 EST and then again 12:30 EST

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...er/6157997002/

Arizona: Biden currently leads here by 93,518 votes, but there are around 600,000 left to count, according to the Arizona Republic. About 450,000 of those are in Maricopa County, which says it will release two batches of results tonight: one at 9 p.m. Eastern and one sometime after 12:30 a.m. Eastern. Some outlets, such as Fox News, have already projected Arizona for Biden, but our colleagues at ABC News have not yet done so.

[Ursus]

If Biden wins, I think it'll look pretty bad for the GOP senate if house democrats say "we have this stimulus set up to be sent out to the American people, and Biden has said he's ready to sign it, but McConnell just wont look at it!"

It will look bad for the GOP, but having faced virtually no consequences after 4 years of looking bad, why would they start caring now?

[PhaelixWW]

With this rest of votes need to be at least close to 66% in favor of Biden for him to win PA. Which counties are left?

Predominantly blue counties.

[Paranoid Android]

I hope the reports of the GOP distancing themselves from Trump are true. You won't hear this on the news, but it is the GOP's implicit concession that will decide how long this will drag on for. If they are indeed jumping ship so soon, they will let Trump fizzle out legally on his own and this will be a relatively quick and clean Biden win.

Scum though.

As put they got a tax cut, 2 SCOTUS and in the end didn't pay for it in Congress. So they can lose Trump and block legislation for possibly the next 4 years.

Damn the Republicans made out pretty fine, if you tell me.

[passingthrew]

Anyone have a timeline on GA and PA?

[Not A Cat]

When these articles say Trump is suing certain states, what exactly does that mean for the election? Will it actually have any impact or is it just him being a sore loser?

[Paranoid Android]

It will look bad for the GOP, but having faced virtually no consequences after 4 years of looking bad, why would they start caring now?

Agree. Let's see how much of a middle finger McConnell gives people on new Covid relief.

[Xeones]

When these articles say Trump is suing certain states, what exactly does that mean for the election? Will it actually have any impact or is it just him being a sore loser?

It most likely doesn't mean anything since his lawsuits have no merit. He is asking them to stop counting lawfully cast votes because things aren't going his direction.

[DarkTZeratul]

When these articles say Trump is suing certain states, what exactly does that mean for the election? Will it actually have any impact or is it just him being a sore loser?

Probably the latter. Some recounts are a certainty, but historically recounts have never changed more than a few hundred votes and Trump would need thousands or tens of thousands.

[Belize]

9:00 EST and then again 12:30 EST

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...er/6157997002/

Coolio thanks

[xmirrors]

When these articles say Trump is suing certain states, what exactly does that mean for the election? Will it actually have any impact or is it just him being a sore loser?

Mostly just posturing. How do you successfully argue that votes should NOT be counted, especially when we've already set some precedent in other recent rulings?

At this point though I don't trust anything. America's future is looking pretty rocky, even with a Biden win.

[Monster Hunter]

Let's be honest, if the Greens actually got on the ballot in Wisconsin Trump would have taken the state.

The statement is true in the sense that any third party vote away from Democrats would have been a vote for Trump.

In a way yea, in the UK the biggest wekness of the left as a block is the number of different parties the left has where as on the right the conservatives have managed to crush or consume any new right wing parties.

Lot of parties works fine under systems bullt for coalitions being the norm, like modern germany or the Scandinavian states, but less so for the UK and even less so for the USA.

But if we look at the UK General election last year, the conservatives gained 1% more vote than the election befor, but they walked away with a historic majority in Parliament, so what happend? Well the left divided its self over corbyn and over brexit, the lib dems, the greens, the independants and most of all the snp made gains, there wernt less people voting left and more voting right, its just the left wernt voting for the major party and that handed the cons the strongest goverment theve had since thatcher, and then it was the same story that habded thatcher election after election, its a running trend in adversarial democracys that the left ends up holding power less often in large part due to its tendancy to infight.

You can even see that behaviour on this forum in a way, just wait till gilrak/comminismwillwin/or we there calling them selves now pops up, they will attack left wing posters whl arnt left enough and be attacked for being to left and not willing to make the compromoses needed to win elections.

Ubtill thats resolved in America or the system is radicals changed to allow things like coalitions there will always be a great weakness in America to racist politicians like trump comming allong and usurping goverment.

[Draco-Onis]

It will look bad for the GOP, but having faced virtually no consequences after 4 years of looking bad, why would they start caring now?

McConnell will move with concessions they don't care about how it looks but the stock market will tank without a new stimulus and you don't mess with the money.

[Ursus]

When these articles say Trump is suing certain states, what exactly does that mean for the election? Will it actually have any impact or is it just him being a sore loser?

It's Trump flinging his shit at the wall and seeing if any of it sticks.

Spoiler alert: It won't.

[PhaelixWW]

It's down to a 212k difference in PA, still with 11% left to count.

204k now with 12% left, per NYTimes. Looks like they estimated a slightly larger total count than Politico.

[Kaleredar]

It will look bad for the GOP, but having faced virtually no consequences after 4 years of looking bad, why would they start caring now?

If Trump is indeed deposed, I don't quite know how resolute the GOP will be in their convictions in the senate to be obstructionist for basically no reason. Are they going to paint the senate as a gigantic clusterfuck stopping up all legislation to convince people that they need to retain power of the senate in 2022?

Even right now, McConnell has basically refused to move on any sort of relief bill because he knows he can basically throw up his hands and say "no no no, you see, it's because the House won't work with Trump! They need to come to an agreement before I'll have the senate move on it!"

If Biden wins and it's the house and the executive staring McConnell down, that sort of "I wash my hands of this" stance sort of disappears.