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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Pot passed in just about every state... minimum wage passed in some... The issue isn’t socialism, but because of politicians like Trump. As I have been saying this whole thread. Liberals or leftist can take the same socialist policy, call it populism, and people will buy it. The issue is that populism, as absurd as it sounds, has been over taken by a billionaire oligarch and his corporate cronies.
    Funny how it doesn't matter if the Dems win, lose, or keep it close, the narrative is always how they're out of touch with voters. Dems are always expected to explain why they didn't get x,y,z demographic, but Republicans are never punished or need to explain why they lost those votes.

    The whole discussion is absurd because without the electoral college we aren't even having this conversation, and these sorts of takes are impossible to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Progressive ballot measures won all over, even places where republican candidates won.
    It only shows that branding the dems as far left, no matter what they do, still works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    Dead people seem to have been voting. Likely not enough to make a difference:

    https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324237476186202113
    Why haven't you been banned for conspiracy theories yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    Dead people seem to have been voting. Likely not enough to make a difference:

    https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324237476186202113
    They should stop voting Trump, ey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakeseye0 View Post
    It's not happening. I'm going to blast you once you see for yourself.
    It's simple math, based on the data we have.

    Biden is getting 8 in 10 of the remaining votes right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    Dead people seem to have been voting. Likely not enough to make a difference:

    https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324237476186202113
    Took me exactly 1 scroll on the screen of my phone.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Caam91/st...60897784107008

    Stop peddling Qanon bullshit. Mkay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    https://twitter.com/ericawerner/stat...39295847968768

    Absolutely right. I dont think its a coincidence that everytime democrats try to run on more and more leftist agenda they get destroyed. They won the midterms on a moderate message but the stupid optics of the left are detrimental
    Bullshit. Allowing Republicans to control the political narrative and allowing Democrats to retreat into their center-right hidey-holes when the going gets rough is what is causing them to be destroyed in elections. Democrats skitter like roaches under sunlight the moment the political wind shifts. Their flaws stem from their refusal to hold any left-wing position that is not currently convenient and they dive for the safety of "moderates" and "centrists" the second they get scared.

    Democrats who actually hold left wing values can get elected. Democrats who hold left wing values long enough to curry votes only to abandon them when things get tough get destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    We know socialism is incredibly popular even with republicans. Try taking away their medicare and social security. It's really just about labeling and propaganda coming from the right.
    I always find it endearing when people in the US talk about socialism in their politics. You guys really need to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    Even if it's 300k, Biden wins if gets 60% of it.
    Wrong. What makes you think he's going to continue getting 60%? He needs more than 60% anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakeseye0 View Post
    There's less than 300k left. Where are you getting 500k? He's not going to win PA.
    The 300-350k number is the number of uncounted ballots. There are around 100-130k counted ballots but not tallied.

    https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-elec...e-changes.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    Dead people seem to have been voting. Likely not enough to make a difference:

    https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324237476186202113
    I mean if you actually go check the site - https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index

    And put in that information here's what it shows -



    So someone fraudulently registered them, but there is no evidence that a vote was counted.

    This is why you don't take bullshit grifters at their word. Because usually, they're lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakeseye0 View Post
    Wrong. What makes you think he's going to continue getting 60%? He needs more than 60% anyway.
    Because almost all of the 500k votes left are from Philly or other cities. Mail in votes, from democratic cities. The average of said two is 70/30 Biden.

    According to everyone, he needs around 60% of the vote left to win. He's been averaging around 75%. That would only work if there were around 500k votes, as everyone said it would be.
    Last edited by Thepersona; 2020-11-05 at 08:45 PM.
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    Whenever Trump voters complain about social justice or PC stuff I think it comes from fear. They're scared to death of being treated the way they know minorities have been treated over the course of America's history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakeseye0 View Post
    Wrong. What makes you think he's going to continue getting 60%? He needs more than 60% anyway.
    Screaming "WRONG" without giving evidence makes you look a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    I'm going to tell you my opinion, which you won't like.

    The reason people vote Trump mainly is because they don't like the (exaggerated) social justice stuff that the status quo / centrists / Democrats keep putting their support behind.
    Or, to use less words to say the same thing, they're bigots.

    The fact that "maybe don't be an abusive douchenozzle to random people over superficial shit" is somehow a politically divisive issue is . . . fucking ridiculous.

    It's not about left / right as much as it's about social and economic policy, most voters dislike the social justice stuff, but love the economic justice stuff.
    Citation needed. If you're gonna argue that most Americans as asshole bigots who enjoy victimizing and abusing innocent people, I'm gonna want to see you quantify that with hard data.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I mean if you actually go check the site - https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index

    And put in that information here's what it shows -



    So someone fraudulently registered them, but there is no evidence that a vote was counted.

    This is why you don't take bullshit grifters at their word. Because usually, they're lying.
    I seriously do not understand how some of these people get through life living so ignorantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healing Rain View Post
    A few thoughts. Vote by mail should seriously be outlawed. We have an Election Day, Allowing people to vote before that day is completely retarded. Split Wisconsin's and Michigan's Electoral Votes between the candidates. When it's as close as it was winner-take-all is completely retarded.
    No. /10chars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakeseye0 View Post
    Wrong. What makes you think he's going to continue getting 60%? He needs more than 60% anyway.
    You are correct, it's 65%. He is getting above 70% currently.

    It's just math, if the trend keeps, Biden wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Citation needed. If you're gonna argue that most Americans as asshole bigots who enjoy victimizing and abusing innocent people, I'm gonna want to see you quantify that with hard data.
    If he were right, his name would be ArchAngel of Wallstreet... it’s like he isn’t cognizant of his own posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    I seriously do not understand how some of these people get through life living so ignorantly.
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