Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[PhaelixWW]

The 2000 recount case in Florida went to the Supreme court though. The goal of Trump isn't to get votes recounted though, it's likely just to delay certification.

And SCOTUS upheld the original result in 2000, refusing the opportunity to be a vehicle for an election overturn.

I'd be just fine with that here.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...h-disinfectant

Welp...Idaho wants to blow a bunch of CARES Act funding on fumigation rooms that are potentially hazardous to any living thing in them. Including like, people.

This year has pretty conclusively showed that the Republican party is not the pro-life party.

[beanman12345]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...h-disinfectant

Welp...Idaho wants to blow a bunch of CARES Act funding on fumigation rooms that are potentially hazardous to any living thing in them. Including like, people.

This year has pretty conclusively showed that the Republican party is not the pro-life party.

meanwhile Trump's DoJ changes policy again

New Rule Would Allow U.S. to Use More Methods for Executions

The rule, which would permit methods including firing squads and electrocution, comes as the administration rushes to execute five more prisoners before President Trump’s term ends.

most pro-life president ever. gotta kill as many people before biden comes in who will hopefully end federal executions forever.

[DingDongKing]

Sure but that doesn't stop Trump's legal team from using the same legal arguments.


https://theconversation.com/trumps-p...lection-149538

Even if Trump's claims are bullshit and there's no substance, Trump will likely try to get the SCOTUS to review it and there's historical precedence for the SCOTUS being involved in a state's voting process. If the SCOTUS has any integrity, it will dismissed. Since ACB is on the bench now though, there's a chance she could tip the balance.

Again, they can't just go 'yeah, cool we'll go with Trump' and not expect the entire legal system to then collapse under the weight of such idiocy.

Because I can't believe this needs to be explained; there is no evidence of fraud. None. Zero. Zilch. Florida 2000 was a completely different case.

[Netherspark]

Here's a statement from Dominion smacking down every claim from crazy leopard shirt lawyer lady:
https://www.dominionvoting.com/domin...owell-charges/

Of course, the right is claiming the fact that they aren't suing her is proof that they are scared of discovery in a trial.

According to their statement it looks like they are preparing to sue. They're just not shouting about it or charging in head-first.

[Thekri]

According to their statement it looks like they are preparing to sue. They're just not shouting about it or charging in head-first.

They absolutely need to sue. Considering these claims will cause substantial damage to their business (Because every GOP politician in the country is going to attempt to block them from being used) they have an absolute need to do it. By suing, they can force her to present all her conspiracy theories in court, where I do not expect them to perform well.

[Kaleredar]

Yeah. I mean, I think things progressing this far shows that a competent fascist administration with the right groundwork laid and enough time could actually possibly pull off a coup successfully, or at least take it to the point where forceful intervention occurs.

But what we're seeing here is like a bunch of middle school students struggling to put together a last minute presentation for a class they're in danger of failing.

One of the (many) things Biden hopefully does is shore up election oversight and protection while divesting it from the ability for people to overturn results or interfere with counting votes.

Unfortunately he’s probably going to run into considerable opposition from the GOP over this. And Even if the democrats take the senate, I imagine the GOP-run states to take up the fight, They only hold the power they do because they’ve been able to twist the system into allowing them more say than their support would normally garner them. So making things more free and fair runs directly afoul of that plan.

[Benggaul]

The partial recount in Wisconsin that Trump paid for (ostensibly) is already reaping benefits: Biden's lead grew by 132 votes in Milwaukee county.

[Breccia]

According to their statement it looks like they are preparing to sue.

Good.

Powell has no connection to Trump, at least none that will help here. Anything she said, such as "Dominion is filled with criminal fraud working for Chavez" that is known to be both damaging and false is on her.

[Edge-]

$3M well spent dollars.

It's gone about as well as his casino ventures.

Seriously, how do you bankrupt casinos and manage to pay millions for a recount that only makes you lose by more?

[Benggaul]

It's gone about as well as his casino ventures.

Seriously, how do you bankrupt casinos and manage to pay millions for a recount that only makes you lose by more?

Well we don't know for sure yet. He paid for two counties to do a recount and Milwaukee county is just one of them...maybe he'll have more luck with the other one.

Though I sincerely doubt he'll have 20k votes' worth of luck.

[Kaleredar]

It's gone about as well as his casino ventures.

Seriously, how do you bankrupt casinos and manage to pay millions for a recount that only makes you lose by more?

Well, it's a "smart" idea when you're using whatever amount of money you raised over the 3 million required that you convinced your followers to give you for a pointless recount to pay off the other debts you accrued. Just like how him continually opening a string of casinos to pay off the previous failing casinos and running off with the excess was a "smart" idea back then.

[Xeones]

It's gone about as well as his casino ventures.

Seriously, how do you bankrupt casinos and manage to pay millions for a recount that only makes you lose by more?

For what it's worth the recount in 16 also gave Trump more votes. Just seems to be how recounts in WI go, the winning candidate wins more.

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Sure but that doesn't stop Trump's legal team from using the same legal arguments.


https://theconversation.com/trumps-p...lection-149538

Even if Trump's claims are bullshit and there's no substance, Trump will likely try to get the SCOTUS to review it and there's historical precedence for the SCOTUS being involved in a state's voting process. If the SCOTUS has any integrity, it will dismissed. Since ACB is on the bench now though, there's a chance she could tip the balance.

I don't think the supreme court will even see it. They don't want to put themselves in this situation. Florida 2000 was one state with 500 votes that decided the election, they felt comfortable coming out and appointing their guy winner. This isn't 2000 they need to flip at least 3 states with no basis and no states are having any of the "hanging chad" issues or the myriad other problems florida had in 2000.

I simply don't see any reason to fear the supreme court getting involved, it would be so completely unprecedented that we would actually be looking at Kokulums dream coming true.

[Eviscero]

Here's a funny development:

Donor to pro Trump group sues to get his money back after dropped election lawsuits.

2.5 million bones! Would be spectacular if this turned class action.

[Kaleredar]

Here's a funny development:

Donor to pro Trump group sues to get his money back after dropped election lawsuits.

2.5 million bones! Would be spectacular if this turned class action.

Man, you’d think someone who had 2.5 million dollars to spare would know better than to huck it into the trump fire.

[Xeones]

Man, you’d think someone who had 2.5 million dollars to spare would know better than to huck it into the trump fire.

He probably expected them to use resources to help with the nonsense effort but instead they just crumpled their legal efforts and don't seem to have made any efforts into making up nonsense like Kraken idiot did.

[Verdugo]

This year has pretty conclusively showed that the Republican party is not the pro-life party.

I mean, they were alway clear that they care about human life only if it is still in womb. Once out, its every man for himself.

[Felya]

I hate that Stop the Count didn’t become a slogan... we could have had ReCount... it’s the same as the Count, but with a goatee... fight the Count for supremacy.

[solinari6]

What are your thoughts on this case? Apparently the PA, someone filed a suit that said the PA expansion of absentee votes is unconstitutional, because expansions to voting rights require a constitutional amendment. The judge issued a court order to stop the certification of votes because he says there is a good chance they will win that case.

https://joannenova.com.au/2020/11/up...il-in-ballots/

I can't imagine they'd throw out all those absentee votes from people who voted what they thought was legally following the instructions from the state? I only see people cheering about this on r/conservative, haven't seen any mentions of it anywhere else, so I'm not sure if it's BS or not.

[Iphie]

Wasn't this the one that didn't affect the presidential election according to the governor?