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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Except my post literally has a modern, present day example supporting my answer. That’s in direct opposition to the person who obviously lacks the brain power to comprehend what my post detailed and went off on a name calling tangent. It’s doubly hilarious that someone posts about proving grounds AI in support of his/her argument, which then gets countered, to then he blasts his own support of the argument to shift a goal post.
    So no, nothing about what I said was destroyed. Quite frankly, you are also proving to be on his/her same level of intelligence as you obviously can’t comprehend things being written out to you and others.
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    I mean its not, i work youtube, of course i got VPN, but unlike you i dont ya know... need it.
    also lol you shafted me with the AI? ya, no you didnt m8.
    you got the entire crew here laughing at you, go back to Asmongolds chat, where im sure your banned too.
    Both of you idiots are just so hilarious to look at XDXD

    how you try to cling to your little brain-dead non-arguemnts

    But oh well, you clearly lack the capacity to see you have lost so who cares

    I enjoy stomping on you little shits anyway - you are like mobs in a adds which exist solely to be killed

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Kami Dende View Post
    because sometimes you just want to play and have fun without rolling the dice on if the other 4 people in your group are fucking morons.
    Then you shouldnt take part in a MMORPG game where playing with others are a huge part of said genre.

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Dude i work on youtube, i have had much worse in much higher amounts.
    And yes i do, but what do you accomplish by just being an asshole and spamming?
    also you seem pretty incompetent if you have to make a new account for literally every post, even if its not banned yet, and even then double post.
    At this point just ignore him/her. Make your points and never look at his/her replies. The beauty is you get your point across while it does nothing but make them angry that they can’t get a rise out of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne AndOnly View Post
    Both of you idiots are just so hilarious to look at XDXD

    how you try to cling to your little brain-dead non-arguemnts

    But oh well, you clearly lack the capacity to see you have lost so who cares

    I enjoy stomping on you little shits anyway - you are like mobs in a adds which exist solely to be killed
    Careful we got a badass over here, sound like a 12 year old. what you just said feels almost exactly like this, its fucking hilarious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    At this point just ignore him/her. Make your points and never look at his/her replies. The beauty is you get your point across while it does nothing but make them angry that they can’t get a rise out of you.
    Hes ghot like 100 accounts at this point, got banned and now just uses their VPN and constant new accounts to keep posting, im waiting for something im working on to render so i got nothing else i can do.

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Careful we got a badass over here, sound like a 12 year old. what you just said feels almost exactly like this, its fucking hilarious.


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    Hes ghot like 100 accounts at this point, got banned and now just uses their VPN and constant new accounts to keep posting, im waiting for something im working on to render so i got nothing else i can do.
    Suit yourself. It’s your time and you’re free to spend it how you like. Personally, I just enjoy sitting here making people mad by not giving them my time.

  6. #226
    LOL yeah you better admit defeat then, that would be about as much as you asswipes can do at this point

    AI in islands is balanced just right, can be balanced in instances too.

    you shit for brain cunts can't even comprehend how that is done though, so you invent stupid worst case scenarios for yourselves XDXD

    you fucking troglodytes better stay in your mom's basement, the real world would kill you in a heartbeat

  7. #227
    Blizz isn't just gonna let you solo stuff officially and let you do so for free...doesn't work like that...the whole point of island AI is to develop it well enough to eventually sell it to those who don't want to wait in queues to do non challenging end game and leveling content faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RemasteredClassic View Post
    Blizz isn't just gonna let you solo stuff officially and let you do so for free...doesn't work like that...the whole point of island AI is to develop it well enough to eventually sell it to those who don't want to wait in queues to do non challenging end game and leveling content faster.
    got a source on that?

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiza View Post
    Its quite nice to learn dungeons as a tank or a heal, with most dps being entitled little shits and so on.
    I honestly cant stand tanking anymore, everyone wants to go go go, I was trying to learn the routes for M+Awakened but most people either drop group when I mention it or try to do all the pulling for me.

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    except they havent put them in actual content yet, they have literally only made therm enemies, and only for stuff like islands, so no, blizz does not diagree with me, they disagree with you.

    But hey if you say blizz agrees with you, please show me where you can play allied with AI NPCS that otherwise would be players, please, go right ahead!

    I know of enemies, you know, the AI BG enemies, and the AI Island enemies, but those are enemies, not allies like you say they are, or are you saying its a slippery slope?
    "They are adding Ai enemies, that means they agree with me and are going to add AI allies!"
    No, not true at all.
    Im pretty sure they have a introduction dungeon where you go through a dungeon with NPC allies, I think they showed it at Blizzcon.

    So yeah, look that up.

  11. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by mysticx View Post
    People mostly skipped those group-quests though, even in the much-lauded Classic days, those quests were deemed more trouble than they're worth, even in later expansions group quests were mostly ignored, except for those arena-things in BC, Wrath and Cataclysm (Fight a few minibosses in a row, those gave weapons and thus saw semi-regular groups)

    You haven't seen the shift to solo-content? You overlooked all the ways to gear up beyond heroics and raids (Soloable invasions and world quests give better loot than LfR), just missed the "You can group, but also do it solo"-part of visions and the upcoming Torghast? That's not the work of a vocal minority, that's Blizzard putting resources into solo content because... well, they'll never tell us straight, but there's money behind it.

    Look at the MMORPG-genre in general, it's a fraction of the size it used to be in the Wrath-days, a few games fighting over what would be called "leftovers" back then, and now games are catering more and more to solo-players, FF14 has NPC-parties to run dungeons with, and Blizz are testing the waters for the same with that dungeon at the end of the newbie-area, it's only a matter of time until we have dungeon runs with NPCs too.
    The shift that I mentioned is from the player base. The invasions were just another form of daily quest with a special extra tassel. World quests giving more than lfr uldir is not indicative of solo content consitering they made world quest rewards scale off of your item level. It's called power creep and I'm not sure that's due to the solo crowd but the casual base wanting to casually, but still get rewarded, play with their friends.

    I'm not sure it's fair to equate the decline of mmos to soloable content. MMOs are such a insane time commitment and consitering WoWs age; it's not that surprising it's no where near its peak. On the Npc dungeons thing, I'll admit I have not experienced nor looked at the starter zone on alpha. I have, however, played the ff14 dungeons with npcs. I'm not sure if yoshi-p is gunna stick with those. They're great obviously for a first time look. Yet you find out real quick that it's just more efficient doing the dungeon with players. Players generally do better damage even at the gear level of the dungeon and can actually use aoe skills.

    Now obviously I have to state that I still have zero data to back any of my points and could be completely out of touch and people could want them. But I'm struggling to actually see the demand outside of a tiny population.
    Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

  12. #232
    If you want to explore single player dungeons go try Skyrim or The Witcher.
    "There is no end to education. It is not that you read a book, pass an examination, and finish with education. The whole of life, from the moment you are born to the moment you die, is a process of learning." by Jiddu Krishnamurti, Philosopher and Educator

  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    except they havent put them in actual content yet, they have literally only made therm enemies, and only for stuff like islands, so no, blizz does not diagree with me, they disagree with you.

    But hey if you say blizz agrees with you, please show me where you can play allied with AI NPCS that otherwise would be players, please, go right ahead!

    I know of enemies, you know, the AI BG enemies, and the AI Island enemies, but those are enemies, not allies like you say they are, or are you saying its a slippery slope?
    "They are adding Ai enemies, that means they agree with me and are going to add AI allies!"
    No, not true at all.
    Got a source for that?

    Did you even bother to see if they had something like that? Or are you going to continue pretending it doesnt exist because you dont want to be wrong?

    It took me all of 5 seconds to google it.

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by Hero2Zer0 View Post
    I honestly cant stand tanking anymore, everyone wants to go go go, I was trying to learn the routes for M+Awakened but most people either drop group when I mention it or try to do all the pulling for me.
    My last kings rest(5+ key) I had this DH pulling mobs all the time before me and before current mobs were dead. Asked him several times if he could stop and let me pull and that I could speed it up too. Even though I kept the pace up, he continued to pull.

    So I talked to the other 3 in /w and agreed to remove him right before last boss. So he stood there in boss room and saw us kill him before being instanced out. He then cried to me in /w all kinds of words. Glorious.

    Stupid & toxic people are part of the game. I shrug it off and continue my day without giving one F***. Theres enough people out there to play with, it costs me nothing to ignore, remove or leave grps myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kynario View Post
    If you want to explore single player dungeons go try Skyrim or The Witcher.
    yeah agreed. If people want that experience, there are plenty of games out there that support it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    Got a source for that?

    Did you even bother to see if they had something like that? Or are you going to continue pretending it doesnt exist because you dont want to be wrong?

    It took me all of 5 seconds to google it.
    "Took me all of 5 seconds to google it"
    So show me, and yes i do have a source on that.

    the only 2 places the advanced Ai are used in, is the Battlegrounds, where they are enemies, and Islands, where they are also enemies.
    do you have any source on them being made to be allies? cause ive got 2 where they are enemies, so feel free to show me their "100% confirmed gunna be made to run Dungeons with you"

    if im pretending it doesent exist, please show me it, i would love to see it!

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by 2525r423ftr345 View Post
    Introduce bots with which we can run dungeons like in FF14 already Blizzard!
    its sounds like you should be playing FF14 and not WoW. Dont try to turn one game into something its not when what you want already exists elsewhere.

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post
    Then you shouldnt take part in a MMORPG game where playing with others are a huge part of said genre.
    The same MMORPG-game where you get a group of NPCs teaming up with you in the introduction of the next expansion?

    Oh, yeah. Looks like Blizzard and you have different opinions on where to develop the game, and thankfully they try to innovate stuff instead of holding on to a 20+ year old genre-definition with a death-grip like some people in this thread are.

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Iem View Post
    The same MMORPG-game where you get a group of NPCs teaming up with you in the introduction of the next expansion?

    Oh, yeah. Looks like Blizzard and you have different opinions on where to develop the game, and thankfully they try to innovate stuff instead of holding on to a 20+ year old genre-definition with a death-grip like some people in this thread are.
    having NPC's in the game and doing quests with NPC's is kinda different from doing group content with them don't you think?

  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Iem View Post
    The same MMORPG-game where you get a group of NPCs teaming up with you in the introduction of the next expansion?

    Oh, yeah. Looks like Blizzard and you have different opinions on where to develop the game, and thankfully they try to innovate stuff instead of holding on to a 20+ year old genre-definition with a death-grip like some people in this thread are.
    those are part of the story and narrative they want to push when going into a new xpac. They also use it to introduce characters that will be vital in the xpac. Thats not the same thing as getting bots to clear a raid for you.

    By your logic classic should have been a huge failure by now and no one would play it. But alot of people are. It turns out alot of people do like MMORPG elements in a MMORPG. Go figure. Blizzard will even learn and use certain things from classic and put it into retail. Go figure.

    What you seem to dont understand is how a MMORPG is and how it works. Its a own genre in the gaming world. Theres no need to change it, theres others games for singel player adventures.
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  20. #240
    Though I am sitting on the fence on this issue due to what I want or to what is better for the game. That being said, I'd love if WoW was far more complexed in terms of classes and talents etc. Complex like Guild Wars 1 was. If that was the case I'd love the idea of adding in heroes or even adding in a system similar to the mercenary of Gw1 where you could party with your other characters and create builds for each of them. Giving a lot of potential for creativity and building the best team comp etc.

    If such a thing was ever to happen in WoW (which it won't) it should be it's own thing. Like Mythic having it's own version and style, Hero/Merc dungeons would have it's own version and it's own progression/rewards. But the closest we will ever get to solo dungeons in WoW at least imo is what we have already. Going back to said dungeons when the next expansion hits and the level/item level goes up.

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