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    Possible returning player... where do I even begin?

    Maybe it's the boredom from the global lockdowns but I thought I might want to get into this game again. I didn't think it was possible but GMs helped me restore an account and characters from ~8 years ago. After 2 weeks of tickets, I'm back in! But I have no idea where to start.

    What do I do? The game feels dead, honestly. I'm not saying that to troll; it just isn't how I remember it. I've gone around Stormwind and Ironforge on my "full" realms and there's no one around. The very few people who -are- around don't reply to "hello". Is this the state of the game these days, or are there more populated areas? I remember in WotLK these were the two hubs.

    Anyway, it feels sad. To someone who last played this game about 8 years ago, it feels incredibly dead. Should I even bother getting into it again? I was thinking it might be fun to prepare for Shadowlands in my spare spare time, but is it even worth it? If I do decide to return, are there any tips you guys can share for returning players? Things I should know?

    Thanks!

    Why am I back here, I don't even play these games anymore

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    Players are in the new content now, in Kul Tiras. That said, a lot of realms are dead, and the Alliance has suffered more because all recruitment is on the Horde.
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    It is a great giant world out there. If you just want to level quickly to catch up to your friends, you can do random dungeons via default key-bind "I" for good xp. I'd recommend questing while in queue, which you can get started with by directing yourself to any Hero's Call Board in most capital cities or major questing hubs or the Adventure Guide icon. As you get higher level new areas will become available to you when you return to your major capitals at major level brackets (85, 90, 100, 110).

    If you're just coming back from Wrath of the Lich King, the Hero's Call Board or Adventure Guide icon should be directing you to quest chains that ultimately land you in Mount Hyjal, Vashj'ir, Deepholm, Uldum, or the Twilight Highlands. If you've already found your way to one of these places, you're already on your way.

    Icy-Veins and Wowhead have a lot of the Class Guides and upcoming Shadowlands changes, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Maybe it's the boredom from the global lockdowns but I thought I might want to get into this game again. I didn't think it was possible but GMs helped me restore an account and characters from ~8 years ago. After 2 weeks of tickets, I'm back in! But I have no idea where to start.

    What do I do? The game feels dead, honestly. I'm not saying that to troll; it just isn't how I remember it. I've gone around Stormwind and Ironforge on my "full" realms and there's no one around. The very few people who -are- around don't reply to "hello". Is this the state of the game these days, or are there more populated areas? I remember in WotLK these were the two hubs.

    Anyway, it feels sad. To someone who last played this game about 8 years ago, it feels incredibly dead. Should I even bother getting into it again? I was thinking it might be fun to prepare for Shadowlands in my spare spare time, but is it even worth it? If I do decide to return, are there any tips you guys can share for returning players? Things I should know?

    Thanks!

    Not too much to do in the world. Most of the players you see won't even be from your realm, they're all sharded and mixed together now.

    That said there's a lot more options to just get into good instanced content. There's a group finder where you can do raiding up through heroic (and kinda some mythic but not really), there's LFR where you queue for super nerfed raids, then in dungeons there's literally over a dozen difficulty levels through mythic+.

    To get to that stuff though, you have to grind through some nonsense. Leveling to cap will take no time at all, like less than an hour per level for the top levels and less than that once you go down the chain. But when you hit max, you're going to have a ton of chores to do for a while. There's a long boring questline to get your legendary, then a time gated process to upgrade it that depends on you also doing some objectives in the world that are mostly boring chores.

    When you hit max you'll be item level 280 or so, and the game is designed for people at 460 so you'll have a pretty quick but silly seeming gear grind where you're getting 50, 60, 100 item level upgrades. Once you hit 415 or so it slows down a bit, but still pretty quick.

    As this is happening, you'll need to start familiarizing yourself with the three gearing systems - azerite, which isn't very onerous and you just kinda get by doing content, corruption, which is similar to azerite in that you just kinda get it by playing the game, and essences, which are awful grinds. Your actual gear is a bit less important now because azerite essences and corruption are all very impactful, so it's important to make sure you're pushing your way along those grinds.

    When you hit 410 or 415 or whatever, I'd suggest queuing for LFR, which gives you the chance to see (albeit very nerfed) what the raid is like. Nice little warm up activity that hopefully gets you interested in going further into the raiding scene. Most LFR groups will have 1-2 loudmouths complaining and calling everyone newbs - just ignore them and focus on learning a bit of the fight.

    A big source of gear is the mythic+ dungeon system, but that's a vast topic in and of itself.

    To me the frustrating part of the game is the progression path feels pretty prescribed - you're going to do your assaults to get your visions to get your legendary cloak, you're going to do your dailies to get essences, etc., but once you get through that and geared up enough it's pretty easy to regularly clear heroic through the group finder, and/or find a guild that fits your schedule.
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    It is kind of a rough time to get into the game. I would almost recommend just starting fresh for shadowlands. There is a ton of prep you can do but a lot of the content is grindy and soft time gated. Even after hitting level cap you are going to have over a month of grinding your cloak.essences, and corruptions to even be on par with anyone else.

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    Get a guild for faster HS cooldown!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Maybe it's the boredom from the global lockdowns but I thought I might want to get into this game again. I didn't think it was possible but GMs helped me restore an account and characters from ~8 years ago. After 2 weeks of tickets, I'm back in! But I have no idea where to start.

    What do I do? The game feels dead, honestly. I'm not saying that to troll; it just isn't how I remember it. I've gone around Stormwind and Ironforge on my "full" realms and there's no one around. The very few people who -are- around don't reply to "hello". Is this the state of the game these days, or are there more populated areas? I remember in WotLK these were the two hubs.

    Anyway, it feels sad. To someone who last played this game about 8 years ago, it feels incredibly dead. Should I even bother getting into it again? I was thinking it might be fun to prepare for Shadowlands in my spare spare time, but is it even worth it? If I do decide to return, are there any tips you guys can share for returning players? Things I should know?

    Thanks!
    Yes, that is the state of the game these days, has been for several expansions now... You can thank sharding for that, it's terrible... People are playing but the game seperates you from them, which really makes this MMO feel like it's missing that first M.

    Have you considered playing Classic? It's free with the sub you already have, and quite frankly a lot more like the game you left 8 years ago than the current game, which barely resembles it's former self.


    There's no real reason to prepare for shadowlands until the prepatch, gear will be replaced 1-2 levels into Shadowlands and leveling to max will be much quicker in the prepatch than it is now, so you'll have no trouble at all hitting max before the expansion launches. Your complaints about the game feeling dead won't be present in Classic, even on the servers that never see queues. I understand if you don't want to level 1-60 in vanilla again, it is a time consuming task; but if you're just looking for something to occupy your time, it's definitely got you covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    Yes, that is the state of the game these days, has been for several expansions now... You can thank sharding for that, it's terrible... People are playing but the game seperates you from them, which really makes this MMO feel like it's missing that first M.

    Have you considered playing Classic? It's free with the sub you already have.


    There's no real reason to "prepare for shadowlands" until the prepatch, gear will be replaced 1-2 levels into Shadowlands and leveling to max will be much quicker in the prepatch than it is now. Your complaints about the game feeling dead won't be present in Classic, even on the servers that never see queues. I understand if you don't want to level 1-60 in vanilla again, it is a time consuming task; but if you're just looking for something to occupy your time, it's definitely got you covered.
    I mean also his complaints about the game feeling dead is he's standing in the middle of an alleyway and saying "where is everyone" when everyone is out at the streets.

    Stormwind hasn't been a major hub since cataclysm, and ironforge since vanilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Maybe it's the boredom from the global lockdowns but I thought I might want to get into this game again. I didn't think it was possible but GMs helped me restore an account and characters from ~8 years ago. After 2 weeks of tickets, I'm back in! But I have no idea where to start.

    What do I do? The game feels dead, honestly. I'm not saying that to troll; it just isn't how I remember it. I've gone around Stormwind and Ironforge on my "full" realms and there's no one around. The very few people who -are- around don't reply to "hello". Is this the state of the game these days, or are there more populated areas? I remember in WotLK these were the two hubs.

    Anyway, it feels sad. To someone who last played this game about 8 years ago, it feels incredibly dead. Should I even bother getting into it again? I was thinking it might be fun to prepare for Shadowlands in my spare spare time, but is it even worth it? If I do decide to return, are there any tips you guys can share for returning players? Things I should know?

    Thanks!
    People hang out in city from most recent expansion, why anyone would stay in Ironforge? Leveling is pretty fast and serve rather as introduction to game. Only thing that new hub doesn't have is auction house. That's why only crowded places in Stormwind are AH and portal room.

    Besides, nowadays there is much more stuff to do in outside world on max level, so people don't just AFK in city waiting for next raid.

    My advice: right now just level, on 120 you can start searching for some guides, but most important find some casual guild. And don't try to do everything at once, now is great time to learn everything slowly and be prepared for Shadowlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Maybe it's the boredom from the global lockdowns but I thought I might want to get into this game again. I didn't think it was possible but GMs helped me restore an account and characters from ~8 years ago. After 2 weeks of tickets, I'm back in! But I have no idea where to start.

    What do I do? The game feels dead, honestly. I'm not saying that to troll; it just isn't how I remember it. I've gone around Stormwind and Ironforge on my "full" realms and there's no one around. The very few people who -are- around don't reply to "hello". Is this the state of the game these days, or are there more populated areas? I remember in WotLK these were the two hubs.

    Anyway, it feels sad. To someone who last played this game about 8 years ago, it feels incredibly dead. Should I even bother getting into it again? I was thinking it might be fun to prepare for Shadowlands in my spare spare time, but is it even worth it? If I do decide to return, are there any tips you guys can share for returning players? Things I should know?

    Thanks!

    So first off.
    1. Stormwind and itonforge arnt really populated anymore, they are old cities, but if you wanna see true pop try alliance moonguard, and go to stormwind. It's always packed. (Avoid goldshire.)

    2. As others have said, woehesds returning player guide

    3. Check your adventure journal, it will usually recommend you were to go next.

    4. Check your map, newer content usually has a ! On your map. You quit in cata, so your likely to go mop next then work, then legion, then BFA so.

    5. Mop, go to stormwind, you get a quest to go to pandaria. Wod, again stormwind. Portal to the dark portal and boom. Legion, again stormwind. You are sent to docks for a questline. And again BFA, stormwind. Stormwind is where you get mostly sent out to new expats, even though it's not used much otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Maybe it's the boredom from the global lockdowns but I thought I might want to get into this game again. I didn't think it was possible but GMs helped me restore an account and characters from ~8 years ago. After 2 weeks of tickets, I'm back in! But I have no idea where to start.

    If I do decide to return, are there any tips you guys can share for returning players? Things I should know?

    Thanks!
    People hang around in the new capitals, less in Org or SW.

    I guess I would start with the obvious and that is levelling. If you left 8 years ago..where are you? Lv 85? There should be a way to pick up the MoP intro quest. Maybe play a bit around there, but if you just want to level...do the intro...get to halfhill, pick up treasures on the way, do the farm quests and some more in the area...you should be 90 in no time.

    Quickly do the WoD intro and take it from there. You could level through bonus areas and again treasures (you won't have flying, which sucks..also from 100-110 in Legion and 110-120 in BfA). I think you can easily do all that in something like 36 hrs played, seeing that you can't fly.

    There are guides how to unlock flying in all areas, but I would only bother with BfA. It will probably take you up to three weeks to unlock it though. But it could easily take 5 months until SL comes out.

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    youre alliance no one half decent plays alliance swtich to horde and you will see packed towns on a high pop realm
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    Those are all very good questions you should be asking yourself. I personally found it to not be worth it coming back to the current game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Maybe it's the boredom from the global lockdowns but I thought I might want to get into this game again. I didn't think it was possible but GMs helped me restore an account and characters from ~8 years ago. After 2 weeks of tickets, I'm back in! But I have no idea where to start.

    What do I do? The game feels dead, honestly. I'm not saying that to troll; it just isn't how I remember it. I've gone around Stormwind and Ironforge on my "full" realms and there's no one around. The very few people who -are- around don't reply to "hello". Is this the state of the game these days, or are there more populated areas? I remember in WotLK these were the two hubs.

    Anyway, it feels sad. To someone who last played this game about 8 years ago, it feels incredibly dead. Should I even bother getting into it again? I was thinking it might be fun to prepare for Shadowlands in my spare spare time, but is it even worth it? If I do decide to return, are there any tips you guys can share for returning players? Things I should know?

    Thanks!

    To your primary concerns about the game "feeling dead" - everyone's done everything for the expansion. Most guilds are in farm mode. No one gives a shit about anything right now until the expansion comes out. There's no reason to ever be in Stormwind or Ironforge unless you're buying something off the auction house. There's tons of world content when you're in the relevant level range. Be in the relevant content's capital (Dazar'Alor for Horde, Boralus for Alliance) when you have absolutely nothing to do.

    There's no reason to waste your life in trade chat in a video game anymore.

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    Those are all very good questions you should be asking yourself. I personally found it to not be worth it coming back to the current game.
    Playing alts with old friends is fun, but if you don't have that luxury, yeah, wait til the expansion.

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    Well its the same thing as when you join late in every expansion isnt it? Alliance is usually deader than Horde especially this late into an expansion.

    Find a guild, thats allways a good idea. Then you can get to know people and do content with them, and they will help you out.
    If you're not social or dont like to play with other people, there are other single-player games out there you'd have more fun with.

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    The old major cities aren’t used as much these days, you’ll find more people in the latest expansions cities.

    The first thing to do is to start levelling up, there’s currently a double xp buff so the time it takes has been cut in half. Then end game us your own, you can pvp, find a very guild, unlock your flying and play through the war campaign etc.

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    OG is packed on my realm. And SW on my other too... IF is empty since... idk... since cata?

    And i don't remeber people responding to a random "hello" ever.

    To do is more than enough and faster than at any point in the expansion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    What do I do? The game feels dead, honestly. I'm not saying that to troll; it just isn't how I remember it. I've gone around Stormwind and Ironforge on my "full" realms and there's no one around. The very few people who -are- around don't reply to "hello". Is this the state of the game these days, or are there more populated areas? I remember in WotLK these were the two hubs.
    Most people are probably in the newer city. That tends to be the trend as I remember it in each expansion. Although in my experience, the other major cities still had people running around. Silvermoon had always been quiet but I do see people gather in Stormwind and Ironforge and other popular cities.

    As for the random "hello". I have never had people approach me with a random hello. I have had people asking for help though. Put yourself in their shoes, a random comes to you and whisper hello. Sounds weird? Probably. Just like real life. Not everyone replies to random hello. Was it like this when you last played? Did you whisper random hello to people or vice-versa?

    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Anyway, it feels sad. To someone who last played this game about 8 years ago, it feels incredibly dead. Should I even bother getting into it again? I was thinking it might be fun to prepare for Shadowlands in my spare spare time, but is it even worth it? If I do decide to return, are there any tips you guys can share for returning players? Things I should know?

    Thanks!
    How long have you played? Have you joined a guild? The game is also old. You yourself stopped 8 years ago. So it is not surprising that others have also stopped during this time? Also consider the game is coming to the end of the current expansion, so it is also people have left and waiting for the next expansion to arrive.

    Maybe a more interesting time to return would just prior to the start of the next expansion. I myself have also stopped playing at the moment and is just waiting for the next expansion to be released.

    The game will most likely be more populated at that point.

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