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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Nah Democrats do worse. Since Trump was elected they spent years making up hoaxes in attempt to remove him from office because they dont like outcome of the election. Thats how absolute contempt for democracy looks like.
    Sure thing champ. Where’s Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate?

    Nah, your blatant racism hides blinds you to the fact that republicans have continuously tried prevent people from voting.

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    Thanks for admitting you’re lying.

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    So you're just another cunt with nothing to show for.

    Usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Nah Democrats do worse. Since Trump was elected they spent years making up hoaxes in attempt to remove him from office because they dont like outcome of the election. Thats how absolute contempt for democracy looks like.
    Yep, all of them were hoaxes like covid... 96000 dead Americans... all of it was hoaxes, just like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Sure thing champ. Where’s Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate?
    After Trump called democrats and medical professionals warning of covid a hoax, everyone saying that democrats pulled hoaxes, should be treated like they are admitting Trump was lying. They are admitting that everything democrats said, was denied by Trump, the same way as a pandemic killing 96000 Americans.

    According to QAnon, how many people did democrats cabal secretly kill? Was it more than 96000?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Sure thing champ. Where’s Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate?
    Trump actually was on FAUX News when Obama was President claiming he had it locked in a desk drawer in his office in Trump tower. Even pointed to it on camera. He said he would wait until it was appropriate to reveal it. You know, another lie, like he would disclose his taxes if elected. But hey, when you hitch your horse to a liar, all you end up doing is lying. But we all know Cizr is a racist bag of shit just, his posting history proves this, trying to stir shit as per usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    Trump actually was on FAUX News when Obama was President claiming he had it locked in a desk drawer in his office in Trump tower. Even pointed to it on camera. He said he would wait until it was appropriate to reveal it. You know, another lie, like he would disclose his taxes if elected. But hey, when you hitch your horse to a liar, all you end up doing is lying. But we all know Cizr is a racist bag of shit just, his posting history proves this, trying to stir shit as per usual.
    I don’t know... claiming that Trump calling investigations a hoax, while seeing 96000 dead Americans, where Trump called warnings a Democrat hoax... is not something I can disagree with. It’s pretty much an argument that if Trump didn’t obstruct the investigation to hide results, Trump believed it would be as bad as a pandemic killing 96000 Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I don’t know... claiming that Trump calling investigations a hoax, while seeing 96000 dead Americans, where Trump called warnings a Democrat hoax... is not something I can disagree with. It’s pretty much an argument that if Trump didn’t obstruct the investigation to hide results, Trump believed it would be as bad as a pandemic killing 96000 Americans.
    Here's the thing, racist Cizr is claiming that the Russian interference was a hoax and that dems were peddling it to remove him from office. Despite the clear facts were the GOP started the fucking investigation because they held both chambers of congress. The report found clear evidence of Russian meddling and collusion, but due to the guidelines placed on the investigation Mueller could not say he was guilty and left it up to congress to decide.. Which they did and he was impeached.

    As for the COVID-19 situation, if a rational human being was in office the stock pile would have been restocked or at least in 3+ years levels would have been much higher. Pandemic training would have been taken seriously instead of treated like a waste of time. Intelligence reports would have not been ignored as far back as last November. Preparations would have been made to build up supplies. The NDA would have been enacted much sooner and used to get PPE and vents made. People coming in from overseas would have been screened and quarantined if necessary. 19 tons of PPE would not have been given away, testing kits from the WHO would have been accepted, and proper amounts of testing would have happened.

    Most importantly, if a rational human were in office, they would have presented the proper weight of the situation to the country instead of acting like it was nothing. As a result, more people would have taken social distancing, shelter in place, and lockdown orders more seriously and cure all suggestions would not have been offered up as a sure thing killing many other in the process. Not all of these deaths are on him, becasue we were going to get hit. But the vast majority of them are. And none of this has anything to do with a fucking hoax, other than hoax of a president we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Long story short: Republican held Legislature ran a shitshow of a 24 hour session, including throwing paper airplanes, to ram through bills drafted with lobbyists and little to no public input or debate, including multiple efforts to limit the Democratic governor's powers.
    ‘Democracy died here a bit’: Kansas Legislature ends messy session with 24-hour circus

    Also a local source talking about the same event. They are, um, not quite as kind as your source.

    The poorly conceived, harried session made certain that thoughtful, deliberative decisions couldn’t be made on issues such as badly needed Medicaid expansion; a constitutional amendment to give voters the chance to allow legal restrictions on abortion; and how much pandemic-reponse authority to take away from Gov. Laura Kelly.

    Lawmakers raised legitimate questions about the balance of power in times of emergency but allowed no time for serious debate or careful consideration of the details as they rushed to require the governor to seek legislative agreement before closing businesses for more than 15 days and asserted their authority to oversee how the state’s $1.25 billion in federal coronavirus funds are allocated.

    Legislators also ordered long-awaited infection control inspections at all long-term care facilities in Kansas, home to some 20,000 residents. Appallingly, only about a third of the nursing homes have been inspected for infection control since the virus shutdown began in March.

    The Legislature’s failure to pass Medicaid expansion, in the jaws of a pandemic no less, is abject and indefensible. It consigns as many as 130,000 Kansans to another year without access to routine medical care.

    Lawmakers also hastily passed delicate provisions shielding health care professionals and business owners from lawsuits resulting from coronavirus — despite the fact that some lawsuits may be warranted.

    And it remains to be seen whether lawmakers have overly hamstrung the governor, who needs to be flexible in a roiling pandemic. Kelly would be fully within her rights to veto the slapdash bill, which would unfortunately throw an already unstable legislative and legal environment into further turmoil. A veto would end the current state of emergency on Tuesday, rather than on May 31, and undo everything else in the bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Nah Democrats do worse. Since Trump was elected they spent years making up hoaxes in attempt to remove him from office because they dont like outcome of the election. Thats how absolute contempt for democracy looks like.
    Good lord. Imagine. Just imagine believing that the unabated stream of incompetence, lies, and corruption issuing forth from this administration is nothing more than a Democrat hoax. There aren't enough "head up one's own ass" memes in the world to describe it.

    Thinking about it some more, I guess you'd have to believe none of it's real. Because the alternative means that you'd have to come to terms with just how harmful the Republican party has let itself become.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    Here's the thing, racist Cizr is claiming that the Russian interference was a hoax and that dems were peddling it to remove him from office.
    Yes... Russian interference for Trump is a hoax, as 96000 dead Americans due to covid was hoax for Trump.

    That’s an argument that Trump didn’t just collude with Russia, it’s like he colluded with Russia to such a massive extent, that it’s compatible to 96000 dead Americans. I don’t think that’s the sort of relationship, even the most ardent anti Trump folks make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yes... Russian interference for Trump is a hoax, as 96000 dead Americans due to covid was hoax for Trump.

    That’s an argument that Trump didn’t just collude with Russia, it’s like he colluded with Russia to such a massive extent, that it’s compatible to 96000 dead Americans. I don’t think that’s the sort of relationship, even the most ardent anti Trump folks make.
    Just because he sees it as a hoax doesn't make it one. Likewise, everything he and is shitbag supporters claim to be one, has a funny was of being true. So, I'm not sure what your angle is. We have a lot of dead people here and it is a direct result of the incompetence Trump has shown his entire life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    Just because he sees it as a hoax doesn't make it one. Likewise, everything he and is shitbag supporters claim to be one, has a funny was of being true. So, I'm not sure what your angle is. We have a lot of dead people here and it is a direct result of the incompetence Trump has shown his entire life.
    My angle is that saying a hoax resulted in 96000 dead, means that every thing else being called a hoax, is also bullshit. My point is that covid, has defined what a hoax means to Trump, which proves he colluded the shit out of Russia.
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    Ty for the clarification. Yup. Good thing is is underwater in pretty much every battleground state. With millions having no jobs to back to the economy in shambles, there is not enough time to correct this before the election. He's going to lose and potentially be one of the bigger landslides in recent history.

    And trumpholes save they how'd that work out in 2016. Biden has much larger favorables in battleground states and much higher favorables with seniors and white men than Clinton. Not to mention every poll leading into election night had the 2016 race within the margin of error except for one that had Clinton up by 6% or something.

    If HRC had Bidens numbers in 2016, Trump would have lost bigly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    ‘Democracy died here a bit’: Kansas Legislature ends messy session with 24-hour circus

    Also a local source talking about the same event. They are, um, not quite as kind as your source.



    Bolded for "They were supposed to expand it this year"
    Republicans are shooting them selves in the foot. My district flipped blue for two specific reasons: because our former red rep voted to dismantle Obamacare, and trump finally fell out of favor with rich suburban white women.

    Poor rural hospitals are closing without Medicaid money, and the farmers are finally noticing that they have nowhere to go when sick.
    Besides the ineptitude of Kobach, our dem governor was elected because of the push to expand Medicaid.

    I’m REALLY interested in who the republicans put up to
    Try and keep the retiring Pat Roberts’ seat. Front runners include Kobach, who couldn’t win the governorship and has only performed WORSE since then (he was a prominent member of the voter fraud commission that couldn’t find any fraud.) Another front runner is Wagle, who orchestrated the shitshow in the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Nah Democrats do worse. Since Trump was elected they spent years making up hoaxes in attempt to remove him from office because they dont like outcome of the election. Thats how absolute contempt for democracy looks like.
    Or maybe, just maaaaaayyyyyybe, the guy who illegally owns his DC hotel (which is crawling with lobbyists), illegally takes foreign money in his illegally owned DC hotel (which is crawling with lobbyists), won't releases his taxes, won't divest from his multinational businesses, won't disclose his conflicts of interest, funnels taxpayer money into his pocket, funnels donor money into his pocket, got busted for his fake university, got busted for his fake charity, got busted paying off Pam Bondi from his fake charity to make an investigation of his fake university go away, got taken to court dozens of times for not paying his bills, got taken to court for not paying his bills by the people who represented him when he got taken to court for not paying his bills, and paid off women to cover up affairs (etc. etc. etc.) is actually a corrupt scumbag who does corrupt scumbag things.

    Not only is the idea the the Democrats "make up hoaxes" utterly ridiculous, the idea that they would even have to is ridiculous. The guy is a walking scandal factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    I’m REALLY interested in who the republicans put up to
    Try and keep the retiring Pat Roberts’ seat. Front runners include Kobach, who couldn’t win the governorship and has only performed WORSE since then (he was a prominent member of the voter fraud commission that couldn’t find any fraud.) Another front runner is Wagle, who orchestrated the shitshow in the OP.
    Interesting. Good news for Dems too, it looks like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    My angle is that saying a hoax resulted in 96000 dead, means that every thing else being called a hoax, is also bullshit. My point is that covid, has defined what a hoax means to Trump, which proves he colluded the shit out of Russia.
    Don't forget that covid 19 was such a hoax he ordered flags to be free at half staff to honor it's victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Nah Democrats do worse. Since Trump was elected they spent years making up hoaxes in attempt to remove him from office because they dont like outcome of the election. Thats how absolute contempt for democracy looks like.
    Benghazi......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    Here's the thing, racist Cizr is claiming that the Russian interference was a hoax and that dems were peddling it to remove him from office. Despite the clear facts were the GOP started the fucking investigation because they held both chambers of congress. The report found clear evidence of Russian meddling and collusion, but due to the guidelines placed on the investigation Mueller could not say he was guilty and left it up to congress to decide.. Which they did and he was impeached.
    He wasn't impeached over the mueller investigation. He should have been, but wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    He's going to lose and potentially be one of the bigger landslides in recent history.
    Should be careful with the optimism. If there's anything the Dems are good at, it's snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Sure thing champ. Where’s Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate?

    Nah, your blatant racism hides blinds you to the fact that republicans have continuously tried prevent people from voting.

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    Thanks for admitting you’re lying.
    Blatant racism? Is pointing out Democrat faults racist now? Its so hard to keep up with what you people make up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Blatant racism? Is pointing out Democrat faults racist now? Its so hard to keep up with what you people make up
    Nah everyone just remember you sporting Nazi iconography as your avatar so we are just calling you out on it.

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