Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Xyonai]

None of that is a crime anyway

Being a dipshit isn't a crime either but you're - The royal You, not "You" the poster I'm replying to - still going to catch flak for acting like one.

[Bodakane]

You can’t prove a negative. Which means jackasses can call Kyle a white supremacist all day long and he can’t prove he isn’t. Your
argument is tautological and pointless.

Not only is Kyle a white supremacist sympathizer (if not follower), anyone that defends him is as well.

He was only there because he and the all white "militia" he arrived with wanted to quell the outrage over another unarmed black death at the hands of the police.

You can bumblefuck your way around verbal and logic gymnastics all the fuck you want. That does not now nor has it ever changed the facts.

[Xyonai]

Following 4chan prank to make OK gesture into white supremacist symbol shows how easily American society is led by the nose.

Not helped by the fact that Actual white supremacists have been using it to 'troll' people using that exact same line of reasoning.

Started as a joke by dipshits, made into a scare by dipshits, and is now used by actual dipshits to keep the troll going.

[Shalcker]

I mean, if you have open and avowed white supremacists sympathizing with your causes I'd say it's time to reevaluate your messaging and wonder why such a toxic and shitheaded ideology is rooting for you.

What kind of messaging are you talking about? :/

It is kid accused of murder. One about whom media had loads of false claims. Messaging was all on media, he couldn't control it.

[Xyonai]

What kind of messaging are you talking about? :/

It is kid accused of murder. One about whom media had loads of false claims. Messaging was all on media, he couldn't control it.

I was more talking about the White Supremacist movement in general, not Rittenhouse, though I guess this side-debate got a bit off tangent.

[Shalcker]

Not only is Kyle a white supremacist sympathizer (if not follower), anyone that defends him is as well.

He was only there because he and the all white "militia" he arrived with wanted to quell the outrage over another unarmed black death at the hands of the police.

You can bumblefuck your way around verbal and logic gymnastics all the fuck you want. That does not now nor has it ever changed the facts.

Exactly one guy in the "militia" had any white supremacist connections and that was a guy Kyle had never met before.

[KaPe]

Do you think white supremacist look abnormal? last I checked you can't identify them unless they show it by doing things like I don't know party with white supremacists, underage drink, throw hate signs then post it on social media for clout.

Apparently, you need a klan hood and dozen of swastika tatoos to count as one - and even then, one could probably claim it's just a "peace symbol" (or "I was trolling the left, really"), so totally a different thing. As if it was impossible to be even a tiny bit subtle in displaying their true beliefs - while at the same time, crying 'witch hunt' at every moment.

[infinitemeridian]

Some things you just intuitively know. Kyle is obviously a regular on /pol and hangs out with that crowd.

[Yadryonych]

Some things you just intuitively know. Kyle is obviously a regular on /pol and hangs out with that crowd.

So many people intuitively know the Earth is flat

[NED funded]

Thats not what all the evidence showed no.

Nah, 17 year olds dont get the idea of picking up a weapon to protect a random local business out of nowhere. He might not be proud boy but he is deffo on that side of the aisle.

[rrayy]

From their point of view him going to the riots with a gun was him looking to shoot someone.

They have a biased point of view based on their ideology. Wisconsin is an open carry state. That means he is perfectly within his rights to carry a gun with him anywhere except hospitals, schools, or government buildings. From the point of view of the law, there is zero evidence that he intended to shoot anyone. Funmy how you don;'t hold the same standard to the guy who pulled his pistol in RIttenhouse's face and claim he never intended to shoot anyone. The point of view of the law is the same on him. He was free to carry his weapon as well and there is zero evidence of him intending to shoot anyone as well.

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Nah, 17 year olds dont get the idea of picking up a weapon to protect a random local business out of nowhere. He might not be proud boy but he is deffo on that side of the aisle.

There are plenty of people on both sides of hte aisle who would do that. That is a false assumption.

[NED funded]

There are plenty of people on both sides of hte aisle who would do that. That is a false assumption.

Yeah, people that are extremist of some kind.

Kyle doesnt come off as a left wing extremist tho XD

[Collegeguy]

So many people intuitively know the Earth is flat

Regurgitate lies is what caused this case to fail. Prosecution is then put in a tough spot trying to convince a jury on lies. Each lie slowly picking at the case. No documentation of white supremacy. Spreading lies works in click bait, and caused this thread to be a shitshow. Even with a dozen mistrials, you're never going to convince 12 random people 1+1=3.

[rrayy]

It’s not a narrative. It’s what a jury found in a court of law. This entire fiasco was created by the media from whole cloth for their own benefit. At this point you’re the conspiracy theorist if you’re sticking to that media narrative rather than the reality of Kyle acting in self-defense.

If anything watching the prosecution suborn perjury, tamper with evidence, withhold evidence, and violate the constitutionally protected rights of the defendant should make more people receptive to the need for reforms in the justice system brought to light by BLM.

Hopefully the defense attorney files a complaint with the State Bar and they punish him.

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So far it seems like the protesting and rioting hasn't been as extreme as I had feared. Maybe it was just a covid thing where everyone was a little insane leading to all that insanity last summer.

This is because Gov Evers proved the "even a dead clock is right twice a day" axiom when he sent 500 national guard members there BEFORE any large gathering could form. Also, since this is a white on white incident, the usual suspects aren't going to waste their time protesting. The rest of Kenosha is likely out in the woods as it is the first day of the 9 day deer hunting season in Wisconsin.

[Zeth Hawkins]

Yeah, people that are extremist of some kind.

Kyle doesnt come off as a left wing extremist tho XD

He doesn't come off as any kind of extremist.

[Dead Moose Fandango]

Lucky in the eyes of the law and lucked out in life. Dude got away with ending the life of a pedophile vigilante style. he's a fucking hero.

Eh. I won't call him a hero for lucking into something like that, and especially not in the way he did it.

[NED funded]

He doesn't come off as any kind of extremist.

Normal people dont pick up guns and go play riot cop

[rrayy]

Nah that dude was on some alt right shit b4 the case

You dont play riot cop out of nowhere

Repeating the same BS that the far left media is over and over doesn't make it fact. It is still BS.

[downnola]

Repeating the same BS that the far left media is over and over doesn't make it fact. It is still BS.

It's not exactly a well-kept secret, you don't have to lie about it.

Also, lmao at calling American corporate media far-left. You people are unhinged.

[bladeXcrasher]

Eh. I won't call him a hero for lucking into something like that, and especially not in the way he did it.

All the right wing wackos are posting this. They are leaning hard on the "but he killed a pedophile and an abuser".

Their legal kill boner is raging right now.