1. #24901
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I keep getting told that guns aren't a threat, yet police consistently treat them as such, even when they're no longer in the posession of an individual.
    If a police officer can justify shooting you dead for 'having a gun' under any circumstances, then you don't actually have a right to bare arms. You'd think this fact would rile up the Chuds more, but they seem more than happy to just let cops open fire on the 'wrong' types of gun owners for "reasons".

    But yeah there was absolutely no excuse for the second guy to just start spraying bullets into the guy with that many people behind him if he wasn't an active threat, and any excuse anyone -can- come up with is probably going to be some weak, smooth brained bullshit like 'lmao they should've left when the cops rolled up'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    If a police officer can justify shooting you dead for 'having a gun' under any circumstances, then you don't actually have a right to bare arms.
    I'm honestly shocked this argument hasn't ever been made successfully in court.

    If you have the right to bear arms, cops shouldn't be permitted to just shoot you. Imagine if you had "free speech", but if a cop didn't like what you were saying, he could kill you? Where's the "right" in that equation?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    New Footage has come out from the shooting in Denver, in which police open fired on a suspect that disarmed himself in front of a busy restaurant, striking six bystanders in the process.

    The thread also includes a slowed down version of the footage to get a better idea of how absolutely stupid and reckless this was.
    Well, if anything, every single one of those officers should be looking at jail time. And thankfully, they now no longer have qualified immunity, Colorado is one of the few states that have gotten rid of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I keep getting told that guns aren't a threat, yet police consistently treat them as such, even when they're no longer in the posession of an individual.

    But real, officer on the sidewalk who was on the literal opposite side of where the dude threw the gun and fired directly at him with a crowd of people behind him has beyond zero excuse for his panicky bullshit. Aren't officers ostensibly trained to keep their cool under this kind of pressure? I get it, we're all human and shit happens, but this is a kinda, "There's no room for mistakes like this" thing because those mistakes potentially kill innocent people.
    Don't forget the myriad of gun shaped objects people might concealing in their pockets like phones, vapes and wallets. Better stay on your toes as a cop. I'm pretty sure the Secret Service has gotten really good at recognizing hidden weapons, would be nice if this info was shared with the police.

    The accountability part is the worst imo, why not punish bad cops? because it would deter people from becoming cops? Isn't that exactly what you want? for bad cops not to want to be cops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by P for Pancetta View Post
    Don't forget the myriad of gun shaped objects people might concealing in their pockets like phones, vapes and wallets. Better stay on your toes as a cop. I'm pretty sure the Secret Service has gotten really good at recognizing hidden weapons, would be nice if this info was shared with the police.
    Also, "literally nothing in your hands at all" can look like a gun, too.

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    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...-part/2977196/

    New body-worn video of a police shooting in Leimert Park from July was released Thursday, in which LAPD officers can be heard acknowledging that the suspect was not holding a weapon before officers opened fire on the man.

    The 12-minute video shows officers approach 39-year-old Jermaine Petit, give commands for him to stop and drop his "weapon," and when he doesn't comply, he is shot. One officer also says to another that what they believe is a weapon is "not a gun" before the shooting.


    "It's not a gun, bro"...that's one of the officers speaking.
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    So in the list of things police mistake for guns including -

    - A cell phone
    - A sandwich
    - Literally nothing at all
    - A piece of pipe

    And many more, we can add

    - A small latch actuator

    I'm curious why they identified Petit as a suspect? It doesn't seem they knew about the earlier warrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    So in the list of things police mistake for guns including -

    - A cell phone
    - A sandwich
    - Literally nothing at all
    - A piece of pipe

    And many more, we can add

    - A small latch actuator
    And in this case...at least one of the cops knew it wasn't a gun and said so out loud.

    There's also bodycam footage of another officer asking "You said that's not a gun?"...so it's not like no one heard him.

    Also, after they shot the guy that was not carrying a gun...they charged him for walking around with a replica firearm.

    I'm curious why they identified Petit as a suspect? It doesn't seem they knew about the earlier warrants.
    Apparently there was a report of a "dreadlocked man" walking around with something that looked like a semi-automatic weapon...which was actually just a fucking actuator.
    Last edited by Evil Midnight Bomber; 2022-09-02 at 11:25 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...-part/2977196/





    "It's not a gun, bro"...that's one of the officers speaking.
    He better be fucking going to prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...-part/2977196/

    "It's not a gun, bro"...that's one of the officers speaking.
    So, attempted murder, given that one cop's telling the others it's not a gun well before shots are fired.

    Fuck these racist violent Klan types. You shouldn't get to get away with a fucking lynching just because you have a badge. Because that's what this was. Lynching.

    And before anyone gets upset with my for the use of "Klan"; he's murdering a black guy for walking down the street while black. That's shit Klan members are known for. If you're upset by my phrasing, engage in some self-reflection. I hope no one is, but I'm gonna lay that out pre-emptively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    So, murder. Arguably first degree, given that one cop's telling the others it's not a gun well before shots are fired.
    Well, not murder. Luckily the dude they shot is still alive. But yeah... attempted murder seems about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Well, not murder. Luckily the dude they shot is still alive. But yeah... attempted murder seems about right.
    Oh, I assumed he died, but attempted then, yeah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Oh, I assumed he died
    Came pretty close from what I gather...he was critical when he was brought in to the hospital.
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

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    https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/f...-tiktok-video/

    Go on a social media rant, in-uniform and inside your patrol car seemingly during work hours, threatening the public and telling them that if they don't get the fuck out of the way of a police vehicle that the police fill find any reason to arrest them?

    No big deal, suspended for a shift and that's it. Review of her past arrests given her public statement that she, and in her belief other officers, will make up any reason to arrest people who inconvenience them? Nope, not necessary even after she openly discussed about the tactic.

    Reminder: That officers feel like posting something like this publicly is a good idea speaks to how deep and systemic the rot within law enforcement is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/f...-tiktok-video/

    Go on a social media rant, in-uniform and inside your patrol car seemingly during work hours, threatening the public and telling them that if they don't get the fuck out of the way of a police vehicle that the police fill find any reason to arrest them?

    No big deal, suspended for a shift and that's it. Review of her past arrests given her public statement that she, and in her belief other officers, will make up any reason to arrest people who inconvenience them? Nope, not necessary even after she openly discussed about the tactic.

    Reminder: That officers feel like posting something like this publicly is a good idea speaks to how deep and systemic the rot within law enforcement is.
    Definitely not disagreeing about the systemic rot, but that video comes off more as an entitled Karen on a power trip. The problem is that anyone would give such a person a badge in the first place.

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    Cops show up to a hotel room for a noise complaint, with the music already turned down and the couple in the room apologizing.

    Should be it, right?

    Nope. Cops demand to see ID for no reason. It is provided apparently, nothing suspicious. Cop decides to lecture them for some reason and the girlfriend slams the door in their face because - literally - the cops have no further reason to speak with the couple.

    Cops call for backup and tell them that they need to leave the hotel - which I'm not sure they actually have the authority to do, only the hotel does.

    Cops grab...a riot gun? While the couple is packing their stuff to leave.

    Cops call for tasers for...some reason.

    Woman gets tased for no reason, cops are pointing the riot gun at her at close range, boyfriend goes to protect her and gets tased twice. The officers then proceed to beat the crap outta the couple with batons. And the boyfriend got shot in the stomach at close range with the riot gun.

    San Jose cops are fascist fucks that abuse their authoirty and every officer involved should be charged with assault - bare-minimum - and violating their civil rights.

    Local DA doesn't think he can secure a conviction despite the video evidence of the officers taking what is a normal trouble call that warrants a verbal warning and escalating it into a violent physical confrontation leaving two innocent people bruised, battered, and traumatized.

    Oh, and it was the girlfriends birthday.

    Apparently the use of force was "appropriate".

    Man, I ain't gonna wish death on no one or anything but I sure would be glad to see every one of these fascist pigs get the shit kicked outta them pretty soon.

    Where are all the good cops that are willing to stand up against the "few bad apples" we keep hearing about? Because when you have a few good apples in a basket filled with bad apples, all you actually have is a basket of bad apples.

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    Because apparently cops being shitty people wasn't subtle enough, we have some motherfucker pulling the MO of a 1940s cartoon villain and Leaving his patrol car parked on some train tracks with a suspect handcuffed in the back seat.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Denver Post
    A woman in police custody in Weld County was seriously injured Friday night when the patrol vehicle she had been placed in — which was parked on railroad tracks — was struck by a train.

    The incident happened about 7:30 p.m. near U.S. 285 and Weld County Road 38, just north of Platteville, according to a Colorado Bureau of Investigation news release.

    Police were responding to an initial report of road rage involving a firearm in Fort Lupton when the train collision incident unfolded, the bureau said.

    A Platteville officer located a vehicle and made a traffic stop, with the driver, a 20-year-old Greeley woman, pulling over just beyond the railroad tracks, according to the bureau. The officer stopped on the railroad tracks behind the pulled-over vehicle.

    Two Fort Lupton officers arrived, and the woman, a felony menacing suspect, was removed from her vehicle and placed in the Platteville patrol car parked on the tracks.

    “While the officers cleared the suspect vehicle as part of the investigation, a train traveling northbound struck the PPD patrol car,” the release said.

    The woman was taken to a Greeley hospital after the crash. Details on her injuries were not released.

    Fort Lupton police are investigating details that led to the initial call for police assistance. The State Patrol is investigating the woman’s injuries, and the Colorado Bureau of Investigation has been asked to investigate the woman’s injuries.
    Now for people who don't know a whole lot about trains I'll fill you guys in on some important factors:

    Trains are loud as shit, and blare their horns constantly as they come within a mile or so within train crossings. Not knowing one is coming means you're either def or fucking stupid.

    Also when a Train is within horn-blasting range, the train crossing arms come down so even the stupidest motherfuckers know that, yes, a train is coming.

    Lastly: Trains are thousands of tonns of steel barreling down at around fifty miles per hour, and with that much mass and momentum they're not stopping for anything, and it takes them actual minutes to come to a stop because of it. So anyone who knows anything about anything knows that parking your goddamn car on the train tracks is fucking stupid.

    So while it doesn't appear that the cop in question was deliberately trying to get this woman hit by a train, he's sure as shit seems like they're just unbelievably stupid and negligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Because apparently cops being shitty people wasn't subtle enough, we have some motherfucker pulling the MO of a 1940s cartoon villain and Leaving his patrol car parked on some train tracks with a suspect handcuffed in the back seat.



    Now for people who don't know a whole lot about trains I'll fill you guys in on some important factors:

    Trains are loud as shit, and blare their horns constantly as they come within a mile or so within train crossings. Not knowing one is coming means you're either def or fucking stupid.

    Also when a Train is within horn-blasting range, the train crossing arms come down so even the stupidest motherfuckers know that, yes, a train is coming.

    Lastly: Trains are thousands of tonns of steel barreling down at around fifty miles per hour, and with that much mass and momentum they're not stopping for anything, and it takes them actual minutes to come to a stop because of it. So anyone who knows anything about anything knows that parking your goddamn car on the train tracks is fucking stupid.

    So while it doesn't appear that the cop in question was deliberately trying to get this woman hit by a train, he's sure as shit seems like they're just unbelievably stupid and negligent.
    Seriously
    If you do anything other that emergency stop on a rail crossing in Sweden during your driving exam you don't get a licence.
    The arms break super easily in case you get stuck so you can just drive out!
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    ...the fucking fuck? Why would you ever stop on train tracks on an active rail line, ever? Much less stop there and leave someone in the car who cannot leave?

    I haven't the foggiest clue what the correct charge would be, but that should be like, negligent attempted manslaughter or something. Glad she didn't did, and hope her injuries aren't too bad, but whoever the fuck those cops are should be fuckin fired and never allowed to work the forces ever again. If that's the quality of their decision making they should never be in any positions of authority ever again.

    I wouldn't even trust these motherfuckers to work a fuckin fryer. These are the dumb motherfuckers that would unironically put ice in that shit because they don't know better, not even do that shit because it's their last day on the job and they want that tiktok fame.

  20. #24920
    Quote Originally Posted by Lobosan View Post
    Definitely not disagreeing about the systemic rot, but that video comes off more as an entitled Karen on a power trip. The problem is that anyone would give such a person a badge in the first place.
    Nah, that ain't it bruh. Even if we ignore that any "Karen" that wants a badge can get one...the issue is that there is no accountability for behaviour like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Because apparently cops being shitty people wasn't subtle enough, we have some motherfucker pulling the MO of a 1940s cartoon villain and Leaving his patrol car parked on some train tracks with a suspect handcuffed in the back seat.

    So while it doesn't appear that the cop in question was deliberately trying to get this woman hit by a train, he's sure as shit seems like they're just unbelievably stupid and negligent.
    I mean, this should even piss off our most conservative of posters...won't anyone think of all that damage caused to public property...
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