Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Mayhem]

Crossing the border illegally is a crime.

You can only seek asylum if you've crossed the border.

[Elegiac]

You can only seek asylum if you've crossed the border.

And it’s also irrelevant since most undocumented immigrants arrive through legal points of entry anyway.

I sincerely wish these people would stop mincing words and just be out with their blatantly anti immigrant position rather than pretending it’s a function of them giving a shot about “the law” because, as I’ve said repeatedly...

The end goal of conservatism is a state in which there are in groups the law protects but doesn’t bind (Republicans and their supporters) and out groups the law binds but doesn’t protect (everyone else).

This is why, to these people, not saying “Merry Christmas” is an attack on freedom of religion, but companies and schools not giving Muslims time for salat isn’t.

Clownery.

[draynay]

Did you miss the be here for a year part you linked?

Yes, please show me that part.

[JohnBrown1917]

There have been many threads on this, many if not most didn’t break the law it’s perfectly legal to claim asylum, and brining up Obama is nothing but an incredibly weak deflection as he didn’t use the camps in the same way at all.

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No it isn’t the same as being jailed as these camps are actually worse then jails in many if not every way.

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I wonder do you think the Cubans coming across on boats were coming in at points of entry or are you just willfully being wrong about every thing?

It clearly only counts if the US can use them for propanda(i.e land/slave owners who fled communist countries) or just straight up nazis(When Nazi Germany went down).

[Belize]

Did you miss the be here for a year part you linked?

It says "less than a year".

For someone who was harassing other posters to take the cognitive test, I'm starting to think you were projecting.

[Daedius]

https://english.rutgers.edu/news-eve...es-matter.html

In a solidarity move with BLM, declares Grammar unnecessary...

The implication of that is ironically racist. lol

[Saucexorzski]

https://english.rutgers.edu/news-eve...es-matter.html

In a solidarity move with BLM, declares Grammar unnecessary...

The implication of that is ironically racist. lol

Well they are just trying to combat the Nazis...you know, the grammar nazis.

[Saltysquidoon]

https://english.rutgers.edu/news-eve...es-matter.html

In a solidarity move with BLM, declares Grammar unnecessary...

The implication of that is ironically racist. lol

1. No one cares about humanities department navel-gazing.
2. The grammar thing is one line of a massive restructuring.
3. Yes, the grammar thing is dumb, but see point 1.

[Edge-]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceB...t_in_portland/

This isn't fully confirmed yet, and I realize the source is questionable, but there's a post gathering a lot of social posts with first-hand accounts and videos of the feds apparently using more potent gasses on protesters that have much more severe symptoms including vomiting. Apparently chemists are starting to look into the more recent chemical use, but damage to plant life around the courthouse exposed to the gasses does support the allegations that chlorine is being used on protesters.

Again, this is not fully confirmed yet, but there's a multiple threads linked there discussing and sharing information.

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https://www.axios.com/operation-lege...a1a5a4498.html

Have you heard about the violent protests in Cleveland? Detroid? Milwaukee? No? Well, I sure haven't, at least.

But the feds apparently, have, as the DoJ is looking to replicate the "success" of Portland in more cities. "Success" appearing to be escalating issues and engaging in violence against peaceful protesters.

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https://gothamist.com/news/video-sho...r-unmarked-van

Guess what? Fucking NYPD has unmarked vans that they're using to kidnap protesters and toss them into.

https://www.salon.com/2020/07/29/nyp...bTcc6LzeqEdtTM

And this is apparently a tactic that they've used for decades.

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https://projects.propublica.org/protest-police-videos/

Propublica is tracking instances of excessive force/police abuse and following up on what happened to the officers. Thus far, lots of "pending/active investigations", but departments seem unwilling to release much information and most of these officers still appear to be unnamed and likely still on duty.

[Stormspark]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceB...t_in_portland/

This isn't fully confirmed yet, and I realize the source is questionable, but there's a post gathering a lot of social posts with first-hand accounts and videos of the feds apparently using more potent gasses on protesters that have much more severe symptoms including vomiting. Apparently chemists are starting to look into the more recent chemical use, but damage to plant life around the courthouse exposed to the gasses does support the allegations that chlorine is being used on protesters.

Again, this is not fully confirmed yet, but there's a multiple threads linked there discussing and sharing information.

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https://www.axios.com/operation-lege...a1a5a4498.html

Have you heard about the violent protests in Cleveland? Detroid? Milwaukee? No? Well, I sure haven't, at least.

But the feds apparently, have, as the DoJ is looking to replicate the "success" of Portland in more cities. "Success" appearing to be escalating issues and engaging in violence against peaceful protesters.

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https://gothamist.com/news/video-sho...r-unmarked-van

Guess what? Fucking NYPD has unmarked vans that they're using to kidnap protesters and toss them into.

https://www.salon.com/2020/07/29/nyp...bTcc6LzeqEdtTM

And this is apparently a tactic that they've used for decades.

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https://projects.propublica.org/protest-police-videos/

Propublica is tracking instances of excessive force/police abuse and following up on what happened to the officers. Thus far, lots of "pending/active investigations", but departments seem unwilling to release much information and most of these officers still appear to be unnamed and likely still on duty.

When does the UN step in? I mean I don't expect them to DO anything, but I certainly expect the US to be kicked out, diplomatic relations be cut, and condemnation of chemical warfare issued, and sanctions started.

[Dreknar20]

And this is apparently a tactic that they've used for decades.

Well her dur

Sometimes the element of surprise can be useful when apprehending people

[Edge-]

Well her dur

Sometimes the element of surprise can be useful when apprehending people

On someone for petty graffiti? Really?

Mean, there's a lot more support for fascism in the US than I'd have ever believed.

[Saltysquidoon]

When does the UN step in? I mean I don't expect them to DO anything, but I certainly expect the US to be kicked out, diplomatic relations be cut, and condemnation of chemical warfare issued, and sanctions started.

Literally never.

The UN is literally the nation-state version of a body the exists to keep the uppity poors down, the UN is not capable or even designed to intervene in the affairs of first world nations.

[Thee ANCOM]

On someone for petty graffiti? Really?

Mean, there's a lot more support for fascism in the US than I'd have ever believed.

we can safely bet roughly 1/3rd of the country is full on fascist.

[Dreknar20]

On someone for petty graffiti? Really?

Lot more than just graffiti going on.

Defund them all you want, its still part of their job to carry out warrants of arrest.

[Edge-]

Lot more than just graffiti going on.

Man, I always love these nebulous, "Well, there's bad stuff going on somewhere!" arguments in response to specific incidents, as if they fucking matter.

Police say Stone spray painted graffiti at numerous locations in Manhattan, including inside the Oculus at the WTC and on an F train. Stone is also accused of painting over four NYPD surveillance cameras at the intersection of Chambers and Centre Street by the former site of the Occupy City Hall encampment.

Petty. Fucking. Graffiti.

Defund them all you want, its still part of their job to carry out warrants of arrest.

Except that's not what's been going on. Here's a lovely video of protests from June, with NYPD repeatedly acting as the aggressors and beating the fuck out of peaceful protesters.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-protests.html

Inform yourself so that you don't continue to support fascist tactics. This is a "feature" for the NYPD, not a bug.

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/nypd-si...leep-theories/

Also, as a reminder, NYPD has a history of reminding the people in Harlem that they are not safe in their homes. NYPD reported a "large crowd" was being dispersed, there was no crowds, just empty streets and the cops keeping everyone awake at 3AM because terrorizing communities of color is apparently "part of their job."

[Edge-]

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/23/...land-protests/

The Air Force is using a spy plane designed for warzones to monitor Portland protests. This. Is. Not. Normal.

[TexasRules]

Looks like protesters to me


If people are rioting and vandalizing, sure arrest them. But there's a lot more peaceful protesters.

now show the video of them launching fireworks at a federal building......I know you won't.

[Machismo]

now show the video of them launching fireworks at a federal building......I know you won't.

It's not as if they came in armed with assault rifles, and took over the place for over a month, threatening the lives of anyone who came in, or tried to stop them.

If they had done that... you'd call them patriots.

[Edge-]

now show the video of them launching fireworks at a federal building......I know you won't.

After the Gestapo started rounding folks up and escalating things.

Also, oh heavens, think of the deadly deadly fireworks. That there are instances of isolated violence does not give the Gestapo the right to assault and abuse peaceful protesters, which is literally the argument you are making here.

That's the argument supporting fascism.